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Regarding the Washington, DC convention center, there are plenty of hotels within 2 blocks of the facility. The problem is there isn't much parking.
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I've been to large trade shows in Atlanta and Orlando recently and both of those cities have large convention centers and plenty of hotels and cheap flights. Next year it will be in Denver.
I agree with the above poster about segregating the floor space depending on the type of wares you are peddling. That could actually open up the choices since a single large, contiguous floor space would not be the only deciding factor. Let's give the new management team a chance. I am hopeful they will bring some fresh ideas to the table. |
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The Marriott Marquis is directly next to and connected to the convention center. There are two smaller hotels very close to the Marquis on the opposite side. I think that's 2 blocks from the main entrance of the convention center. The Renaissance Hotel (side entrance) is directly across the street from the Carnegie Library. The main entrance (valet parking drop off) of that Renaissance is directly across the street from a parking lot (which was the site of the old convention center pre 2003). The Grand Hyatt is behind that parking lot and it is directly diagonally from the Convention Center. I think that's about 2 blocks.
The convention center's largest space is two levels from street level to their main exhibit area and I believe (when all partitions are opened) that it is large enough to have the National there. |
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You are right about the lower space in the Walter Washington Convention Center. Earlier post I mentioned it is about 4 football fields long and one half of the width is a little less than a football field and the other half is a little larger than one. As someone mentioned earlier it is a heavily unionized building. You cannot cart your own items in, only carry them. Of the other venues Chicago seems to be the easiest for dealers - drive your car into the building and use any cart you wish. The IX Center only allowed two wheel carts. I cannot speak about AC, but several dealers mentioned it is unionized and they dared not move anything. |
I would be fine with it staying in Rosemont.
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Smaller venues are fine too if you’re bringing the show to other parts of the country besides the major cities. Not everyone can make it to AC or Cleveland. Route 95 runs right though Richmond and the airport is 15 minutes from downtown. It’s a great location. |
Besides being too small, I'm not envisioning many people being interested in heading to Richmond for a week. While one side of the argument can say it's a decent midpoint for NY/NJ and Florida collectors (both of which represent a huge portion of the hobby), others just wouldn't understand it as a destination for such an event. I'm quite amazed how much it's been brought up in this thread.
I think I've asked this before, but what about Cincinnati? What a perfect town from a baseball history perspective. It's also going to be about the same amount of travel for most people as going to Chicago. There has to be a space with enough room in that city, doesn't there? Lots of hotels. Similarly, how about St. Louis? Might bring in more people from west of the Mississippi. Let's make everyone travel! With the rich baseball histories of both cities, in addition to the fact that they were both historically booming places, there would be a lot of opportunities for great surprise walk-in discoveries! |
I may be wrong, but I'm guessing that more dealers had rather spend the night in a casino than at a ballpark.
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Richmond deserves serious consideration. |
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I used to love the Tuff Stuff shows at the Virginia State Fairgrounds in the 1990's Attachment 532141
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Do Richmond, then Chicago, then another smaller city, then another larger one. |
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I'm not sure, but I believe the decision on the National's location for 2024 and 2025 gets decided this week. Attachment 532232
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I have been to 2 Nationals. Both of them were more years ago than I care to think about and probably older than than some people here. I have also been to dozens of card shows over the years, both large and small. I would have loved to attend more Nationals over the years but job and family cut into that. I had actually thought about making the drive up 95 to AC but other things became a priority, sadly. |
I like Chicago...many flights, variety of other entertainment that should hit everyone's desires, lakefront, food, sports, etc. I am happy with how they have it now with Chigao every other year though...every year and you are still in theory eliminating a portion of your audience (travelers with limited mobility, those that can only drive, etc.). What I think would be a better option is truly rotating that "off year" all over. Cleveland has done well...then jump it to LA...then Houston....Orlando...Vegas...AC (ugh)....try to reach as many people a you can. I am happy to go every other year if it lands in a location I don't want to haul my butt to on the "off years"...and if it lands in a place convenient to me...Cleveland, LV, LA, San Diego, Detroit, etc...great....but try to cater to the larger community.
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I think that’s a solid take. I like AC because it is convenient for me and I like the casino diversion, but Chicago every other year and a rotation of 5-6 other locations makes a lot of sense. If I was a dealer I would be concerned about an untested location bombing but that’s prob not likely in this environment.
QUOTE=isiahfan;2259140]I like Chicago...many flights, variety of other entertainment that should hit everyone's desires, lakefront, food, sports, etc. I am happy with how they have it now with Chigao every other year though...every year and you are still in theory eliminating a portion of your audience (travelers with limited mobility, those that can only drive, etc.). What I think would be a better option is truly rotating that "off year" all over. Cleveland has done well...then jump it to LA...then Houston....Orlando...Vegas...AC (ugh)....try to reach as many people a you can. I am happy to go every other year if it lands in a location I don't want to haul my butt to on the "off years"...and if it lands in a place convenient to me...Cleveland, LV, LA, San Diego, Detroit, etc...great....but try to cater to the larger community.[/QUOTE] |
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National sites announced
FUTURE NATIONAL SITES ANNOUNCED
The results of the ballot sent to eligible voters are in and the NSCC Board of Directors is pleased to announce the sites for future events. 2023 Chicago (Rosemont) July 26-30, 2023 2024 Cleveland IX Center July 24-28, 2024 2025 Chicago (Rosemont) July 30-August 3, 2025 |
Generally super happy with this...but would really hope the next location listed is West of Chicago.
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