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Considering the "buyer" is now in Ohio presumably with the cards and declining to return to Atlanta City, if I was the victim and considering the amount, I would be seeking a federal investigation by the FBI under 18 USC 2314.
Whoever transports, transmits, or transfers in interstate or foreign commerce any goods, wares, merchandise, securities or money, of the value of $5,000 or more, knowing the same to have been stolen, converted or taken by fraud; https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2314 |
What are the odds the dealer eventually ends up getting charged with insurance fraud or filing a false police report? None of this rings true.
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That year I ended up buying 4 gray backs from the same seller. Light was just fine over there! I wasn't checking for wrinkles however |
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I remember going by that guys booth and all of his Mantles were ungraded. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Story is hard to believe. |
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ya...that story is believable!!!!
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What’s this dealers reputation ? Has anyone ever done business with him ? |
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Nothing new here oldest scam in the book perfectly organized.
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If this was a scene in a bad movie all the cards in the case would have been reprints to start with.
As someone mentioned above, if this is some kind of con or scam, the crossing state lines part of it certainly ratchets up the heat considerably. |
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Further confirmation that man-child continues to be fully represented in the hobby.
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https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=184690 |
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I wonder why Gizmo is on the National Committee? |
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Regarding a heck-ton of cards being held/going table to table....Did anyone see the guy walking around with the Johnny Bench jersey? With all the bench autos bench rookie and crazy double PAGES of key topps cards from 57-72. He had like 25 1969 rose's Aaron's, bench ..mays EACH 58 mantles mays etc. I was in awe and I didn't even speak to him.
He was trying to sell and just wasnt connecting with the speed of the dealer...i was watching in awe amd big eyes like a Tom amd Jerry cartoon... Maybe he is on here..if so, sir I have never been so impressed with a binder of cards in my LIIFFEE. Sent from my SM-G996U using Tapatalk |
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"I trusted him because his bag was in the booth." This implies Giddings thinks the bag of money was sufficient security for the $80,000 (or whatever) of cards. We had no idea how much money was in the bag; it’s not my job to do that. This says Giddings had no idea whether or not the bag of money was adequate collateral for the cards. Contradictory statements back to back, it seems to me. Furthermore, if the bag of money had $100k in it, and the cards were priced something less than that, why not just use some of the money from the box and complete the transaction? |
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I think I’ve only bought from Gizmo AKA ‘Homey the butt clown’ once. He might be an idiot, but no thief would try and steal in such an absurd manner. Boy has SCD has gone downhill, publishing this with a supportive article reporting his feelings and asking no questions at all. |
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My wish for the day is that Giddings (and 3 of his alternate ids) come on here and posts like the purple sticker guy did when he claimed he was stolen from. |
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Cards were reportedly smuggled out of Atlantic City in white house subs.
QUOTE=Lorewalker;2249659]How many buyers would offer a seller a bag of cash to safeguard while they looked at the seller's cards? That should be a red flag right there. And how many sellers would even think of accepting a bag purported to hold 100K in cash? The only truth, it seems, in the story is that Giddings was at the National. My wish for the day is that Giddings (and 3 of his alternate ids) come on here and posts like the purple sticker guy did when he claimed he was stolen from.[/QUOTE] |
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If someone asked me to hold on to their $100k, I would have told him no. How do I know he might come back later and say 50k was missing? Dickie is trying to scam once again.
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I am trying to rationalize this looking at it from the dealer side. The only thing I can come up is dealer trust on steroids between the dealer and buyer.....and that is even a stretch when you are talking about cash in boxes, etc.
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Sounds like this is going to turn into a he/he said he/he said story. Ohio guy can claim a deal was done and the other guy stole the $86k out of the bag...things that make you go hmmmmm. |
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Went down some fun rabbit holes reading up on past "incidents" with the dealer involved in this "theft" case! On a side note, learned that Rich Klein wasn't the originator of Secret Santa...thank you sir for taking that over. Thinking of making it out to my first national next year. This is a good reminder to keep one's situation awareness up when it comes to who your dealing with.
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I checked out those other two threads that were mentioned in this thread.
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Not sure if this has been said already or not, but taken right from the article:
"Rick Giddings of Gizmo’s Sportscards of Davis Junction, Ill. reported the alleged theft to Atlantic City police on the final day of The National at the Atlantic City Convention Center. According to Giddings, who is on the board of directors of The National, the incident occurred between 4 and 5:30 p.m. on Saturday, July 30." So it happened on Saturday, but he doesn't report it until Sunday. I know after I'm robbed I like to get a good nights sleep before reporting it a day later. "DOH!!!!!" |
& the $80K loss, was that his cost or his jacked up prices?
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"Giddings said the dealer texted him at about 5:40 p.m. and said, “I’ll see you in the morning.” At that point, Giddings said he started to get suspicious. “Anybody who has got that type of money, or says he does, would you leave that in a booth? … So I’m scared,” he said. At that point, Giddings said he opened the bag and found two boxes marked “$50,000.” The two boxes, however, contained only $500 each in $1 bills, he said. “I guess he wanted me to feel warm because I trusted that he had the money there and thought, ‘He’s not going to run if he’s got that kind of money.’ But he did,” Giddings said. “It was terrible.” When the dealer did not show up the following morning, Giddings contacted the Atlantic City Police Department, which is now investigating the alleged theft." |
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