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swarmee 01-24-2022 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael B (Post 2188906)
There do not appear to be any cases filed this year. There was a Michael J. Minares, Jr. of Phoenix who filed a bankruptcy in 2019 that was discharged in 2020 and closed in 2021.

Thanks for checking, that's interesting. Maybe PSA just took their word for it.

steve B 01-24-2022 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 2188891)
There are also cards that went out the back door. I have a near set of Peter Max football inserts from 1997 Topps Gallery that have the certified autograph embossing but no autographs.

I have a stack of classic autograph cards that were never signed and were a bit of a mystery for a while. All the same player. First Beckett had them in the list of signed cards, then they were gone.

swarmee 01-25-2022 03:32 PM

On the Albert Pujols wiped/resigned auto, Goldin has mailed it back to PSA for card and auto authentication. Not sure what PSA will do at this point.

And for the devil's advocate who thinks this isn't an issue, here's a quote from the Blowout thread: "This pisses me off. No different than the large % of trimmed vintage out there. One at a time ruining the most important cards ever made." So yes, some collectors are appalled at wiping off an original signature and having it resigned later.

swarmee 04-13-2022 05:03 PM

Amazingly, since a rapid-fire January, there haven't really been any major hobby scandals since then, just continued unraveling of previously reported stories. Based on the 'Beware of Beckett' thread, looks like many here were aware of the Marx cards submission scandal at PSA.
The bankruptcy court is not allowing PSA to send back cards to their owners yet. They ruled that PSA must keep them in a hearing yesterday. So those 50,000 cards are still stuck in grading limbo, but both PSA and Marx asserted that they had no claims of ownership to any of the submissions.

BobC 04-13-2022 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 2215068)
Amazingly, since a rapid-fire January, there haven't really been any major hobby scandals since then, just continued unraveling of previously reported stories. Based on the 'Beware of Beckett' thread, looks like many here were aware of the Marx cards submission scandal at PSA.
The bankruptcy court is not allowing PSA to send back cards to their owners yet. They ruled that PSA must keep them in a hearing yesterday. So those 50,000 cards are still stuck in grading limbo, but both PSA and Marx asserted that they had no claims of ownership to any of the submissions.

Wow, sounds like PSA isn't going to be allowed to cut the original owners/submitters a break, even if they wanted to for PR purposes.

And I suspect at this point it isn't entirely just up to Marx and PSA to both claim no rights of ownership to the submissions, and that is it. The bankruptcy court, and especially Marx creditors, might have completely different opinions that could override anything Marx or PSA have to say.


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