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Archive 04-08-2009 06:31 AM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Bob Donaldson</b><p>Cycle 460

Archive 04-08-2009 09:31 AM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>1st....the 10 red Cobb's reported (so far) with PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42 do not surprise me in the least.<br> If we were to get a lot more participation in this survey (at least 200 inputs), we would get a more<br> realistic perspective. And, the 10 red Cobb's with P460/42 backs would not seem out of line.<br><br>2nd....in a P460/42 survey that I ran last November, the six super-prints (this red Cobb is one) were<br> more often reported with P460/42 backs than other 350/460 subjects. Furthermore, I have a theory<br> why this Cobb is found with many P460/42 backs. The PIEDMONT brand was very popular in the South-<br>east, so American Litho. printed up many red Cobb's at the tail end of the PIEDMONT run and shipped<br> them to Durham, NC (Factory 42) to be inserted into the L&amp;M PIEDMONT packs.<br><br>3rd....Finally, In recent years, P460/42 cards have been sought after much more so than in the past.<br> The 1st T206 set that I put together back in the 1980's had 4 - P460/42 cards in it....that I was not <br>even aware of. Simply, because this back was seldom seen (most collectors were unaware of it).<br> <br>When Bill Heitman published The Monster in 1980, Red HINDU backed T206's were virtually unknown. <br><br><br>TED Z<br><br>

Archive 04-08-2009 09:41 AM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Drew</b><p>Hi Ted<br><br>My red Cobbs<br>sweet cap 350..30<br>tolstoi<br><br>Drew

Archive 04-08-2009 09:43 AM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Scott Stiffler</b><p>Sweet Cap 350 / factory 30

Archive 04-08-2009 10:12 AM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Frank A.</b><p>Ted; I am not reporting another Cobb, but pulled my card out to check the factory number again. It is a Sweet Cap factory 25, 350 back. Are these for some reason scarce, as I see all others are fac 30

Archive 04-08-2009 12:07 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>The Red Cobb is not often seen with a Sweet Caporal 350 Factory 25 (VA) back.<br><br>And, it is less seen with a Sweet Caporal 460 Factory 25 back.<br><br>I'm not sure why this is so....as the Factory 30 (NY) versions of both these Sweet Caps are very plentiful.<br><br><br>TED Z<br><br>

Archive 04-08-2009 02:57 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>ErikV</b><p> I have a red back Cobb (PSA 3).....Piedmont<br><br><br> It's a 350/460 back, factory 25/dist. 2. <br><br> <br> Edited to include t-brand. <br>

Archive 04-08-2009 06:56 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>You left out the T-brand on your &quot; xx 460 Fac, 25 &quot; Cobb ?<br><br><br>TED Z<br><br><br>

Archive 04-08-2009 06:57 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Thanks BOB, DREW, SCOTT and ERIK for your Cobb inputs and thanks to two Net54 readers<br> that have contacted me with their inputs.<br><br><img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/abredcobbsov460.jpg" alt="[linked image]"><br><br><br>UPDATED survey....4/8/09<br><br>Scarcest group......<br><br>..1....BROAD LEAF 460<br>..0....DRUM<br>..1....HINDU (red)<br>..3....LENOX (black)<br>..0....UZIT<br>..3....SOVEREIGN 460<br>10....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 42<br>..5....CAROLINA BRIGHTS<br>..5....CYCLE 460<br>..2....EPDG<br><br>Next toughest group......<br><br>..7....AMERICAN BEAUTY 350<br>..1....CYCLE 350<br>..3....SOVEREIGN 350<br>..0....SWEET CAPORAL 46O Factory 25<br>..1....SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 42<br>..2....SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 42 (ovpt)<br>..6....TOLSTOI<br>..7....OLD MILL<br><br>The easier ones......<br><br>..2....SWEET CAPORAL 46O Factory 30<br>..1....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 25<br>11....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 30<br>10....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 25<br>12....PIEDMONT 350 Factory 25<br>..9....POLAR BEAR<br><br><br>OK, we have 102 total inputs.....but, we still need many more data points in order to arrive at<br> some valid conclusions.<br><br>Guys &amp; gals, do not be shy about telling us of your Red Cobb cards....hop onto this bandwagon<br> and add your Cobb(s) to this list.<br><br>Hey JEFF L....where are all these Cobb's you have ?<br><br><br>TED Z<br><br>

Archive 04-08-2009 08:13 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Marc S.</b><p>included above come from a collector? If so, you might want to add in the example that is in REA to your population.

Archive 04-08-2009 09:45 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>The Red HINDU recorded in the survey list is the one from the current REA auction.<br><br><br>TED Z<br><br>

Archive 04-09-2009 01:44 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>JB</b><p>Piedmont 350................add one for that Cobb.

Archive 04-09-2009 03:35 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Justin</b><p>I have a Sweet Caporal 350-460 overprint

Archive 04-09-2009 04:18 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>David McDonald</b><p>Keep up the good work, Ted.<br><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/bbbofsfirstclass/miscellanybaseball/websize/exexCobb%20holding%20T206ex.jpg" alt="[linked image]">

Archive 04-15-2009 09:05 AM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Received 11 more inputs, since I've been &quot;computer-less&quot;....so, here is the updated tally for anyone still interested.<br><br><img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/abredcobbsov460.jpg" alt="[linked image]"><br><br><br>UPDATED survey....4/15/09<br><br>Scarcest group......<br><br>..1....BROAD LEAF 460<br>..0....DRUM<br>..1....HINDU (red)<br>..3....LENOX (black)<br>..0....UZIT<br>..3....SOVEREIGN 460<br>10....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 42<br>..5....CAROLINA BRIGHTS<br>..5....CYCLE 460<br>..2....EPDG<br><br>Next toughest group......<br><br>..7....AMERICAN BEAUTY 350<br>..1....CYCLE 350<br>..3....SOVEREIGN 350<br>..0....SWEET CAPORAL 46O Factory 25<br>..1....SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 42<br>..4....SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 42 (ovpt)<br>..6....TOLSTOI<br>..9....OLD MILL<br><br>The easier ones......<br><br>..3....SWEET CAPORAL 46O Factory 30<br>..1....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 25<br>12....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 30<br>12....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 25<br>14....PIEDMONT 350 Factory 25<br>10....POLAR BEAR<br><br><br>We have a total of 113 inputs....but, we need at least 200 inputs in order to arrive at some meaningful conclusions.<br><br><br>Guys and gals, don't be shy....show or tell us of your Red Cobb cards.<br><br><br><img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif"> Hey Jeff Lichtman......we are still waiting to see all your Red Cobb's....are you hoarding them ? <img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif"><br><br><br>TED Z<br><br><br><br>

Archive 04-15-2009 10:15 AM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Ted, glad to see you again! We tried all that we could to lure you out of hiding on the new board -- to no avail!<br><br>I've got a single red Cobb and it's a lowly Piedmont 350, factory 25.

Archive 04-15-2009 10:26 AM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Craig W</b><p>Hi Ted,<br><br>Last nite a T213-1 Red Cobb ended on ebay. I know you believe the Type 1 Coupons should be part of T206, so I thought you might like to be aware of it. (I tried a snipe of $1200, but obviously I got blown out of the water!) Here's the link:<br><br><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:I T&amp;item=120401023810" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:I T&amp;item=120401023810</a>

Archive 04-15-2009 10:31 AM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Bruce Mac</b><p>Add another Old Mill to your list.

Archive 04-15-2009 11:10 AM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>I saw your's and John W's &quot;lures&quot;....as soon as I can get the software to enable my computer with it's new Hard Drive<br> to work with my scanner....I will &quot;blow you guys out of the water&quot; with my T206 Cobb.<br><br><br>Incidently, I must say, I'm disappointed that you did have some &quot;exotic&quot; Red Cobb's <img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif"><br><br><br>TED Z<br><br><br><br>

Archive 04-15-2009 01:54 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Donavon Arabie</b><p>Craig,<br><br>I bid on the T213-1 Cobb as well, but couldn't make myself go any higher. The paperloss killed it for me &amp; the top edge definately looked trimmed. Still a nice card, though.

Archive 04-15-2009 04:20 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>I'm not going to add this &quot;baby&quot; to the survey list....lest I'll get grief from the &quot; Burdick<br> can't be wrong&quot; crowd....and, who do I think I am to question him ?<br><br>Thanx for bringing this 1910 Coupon to my attention.<br> <br><br><img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/1910couponcobb.jpg" alt="[linked image]"><br><br><br><br>TED Z<br><br>

Archive 04-16-2009 12:58 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><br> Hi Ted,<br> Here are my Red Cobb's..... <br><br> 1 Carolina Brights<br> 1 Polar Bear<br> 1 EPDG<br> 1 Old Mill<br> 1 Sovereign 350<br> 1 Piedmont 460 42<br> 1 Sweet Cap 460 25<br> 1 Piedmont 350<br> 1 Sweet Cap 460 30<br><br> Be well Brian<br><br>

Archive 04-16-2009 01:11 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>John</b><p><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn3/junkforumimages/huge/jpeg.jpg" alt="[linked image]"><br><br>Ted funny you should say exotic Cobb's Jeff and I just purchased all these. All of the backs are Red Hindu....

Archive 04-16-2009 02:28 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Thanks ole buddy......9 - Red Cobb's......now, that is really impressive.<br><br>We might get to 200 cards, yet.<br><br>Best regards, Brian.<br><br>TED Z<br><br>

Archive 04-16-2009 02:28 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Your array of 7 pastel colored Cobb's are a pretty sight to see......However, check-out my 2 extraordinary<br> UZIT Cobb's......<br><br>The &quot;exotic-ness&quot; of these two Cobb's certainly trump your 7 Cobb's....<img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif"><br><br><br><img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/abredcobbuzitms.jpg" alt="[linked image]"><br><br><img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/abcobbbatuzitms.jpg" alt="[linked image]"><br><br>American Litho. must of thought Cobb was brandishing his &quot;weapon&quot; on this one and printed him with their<br> T80 series.<br><br><br>T-Rex TED<br><br><br><br>

Archive 04-16-2009 02:34 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>John</b><p>LMAO...Ted Cobb always said baseball was like war.

Archive 04-16-2009 04:55 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Bruce Babcock</b><p>Anyone have a guess as to how many red Cobbs (including all backs) exist? Probably an easier question is, how many red Cobbs have been graded, all companies included?

Archive 04-16-2009 05:15 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Jim VB</b><p>Bruce, <br><br>PSA shows they have graded 1093. SGC shows 303. <br><br>Edited to add - I'll check with GAI on Monday.

Archive 04-16-2009 06:26 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Brian E.</b><p>Ted,<br><br>I noticed your list is seeking to track the Red Hindus but I don't see an entry for a regular Hindu....In the years that I've been collecting the different Cobb backs, I've seen more EPDG, Lenox, Cycle and Uzits than even a normal Hindu Cobb.<br><br>Brian E.

Archive 04-16-2009 06:35 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Dave Hornish</b><p>Is the Red Cobb the most graded card at PSA and SGC?

Archive 04-16-2009 07:49 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Jim VB</b><p>Dave, <br><br>That's a pretty broad question. I don't think either company makes that info searchable in their database.

Archive 04-16-2009 07:50 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Jim VB</b><p>Ted, <br><br>I have two, both Sweet Cap 350 Factory 30.

Archive 04-16-2009 07:58 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>I don't know how we can establish a grand total population of how many Red Cobb cards exist.<br>Grading Co. POP reports are at best misleading (due to constant churning of re-grading). And,<br>there are still many old dinosaurs like me who have ungraded Cobb's (currently, I have 4 such<br>Red Cobb's).<br><br>Then there are (by my count) 30 different Red Cobb's....24 T206's, Ty Cobb back, 1910 Coupon,<br>T213-2, T213-3, T214 and T215....which complicates any true count of this Subject.<br><br>Here is what we do know......in two independent T206 surveys totalling over 40,000 cards, the <br>Red Cobb out-numbers all other T206 Subjects (except the 5 other Super-Prints) by a factor of <br>approx. 2 to 1. The closest Subjects were guys like Johnson (portrait) and Joss (pitching). From <br>these surveys, Johnson's sample was 110 cards and Joss' sample was 124 cards....while the Red<br> Cobb's sample was 196.<br><br><br>TED Z<br><br><br><br><br><br>

Archive 04-16-2009 08:34 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>You noted......<br>&quot;I noticed your list is seeking to track the Red Hindus but I don't see an entry for a regular Hindu....&quot;<br><br>Are you alluding to the Brown HINDU back ?<br><br>I don't think you are, because the Brown HINDU back exists only in the 150/350 Series of T206's.<br>The Red Cobb was printed in the 350/460 Series; and therefore, can never be found with a Brown<br> Hindu back.<br><br><br>TED Z<br><br><br><br>

Archive 04-16-2009 08:40 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Thanks JEFF L, BRUCE M, BRIAN W, JIM VB and a Net54 reader for your inputs.<br><br><br><img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/abredcobbsov460.jpg" alt="[linked image]"><br><br><br>UPDATED survey....4/16/09<br><br>Scarcest group......<br><br>..1....BROAD LEAF 460<br>..0....DRUM<br>..1....HINDU (red)<br>..3....LENOX (black)<br>..0....UZIT<br>..3....SOVEREIGN 460<br>11....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 42<br>..6....CAROLINA BRIGHTS<br>..5....CYCLE 460<br>..3....EPDG<br><br>Next toughest group......<br><br>..7....AMERICAN BEAUTY 350<br>..1....CYCLE 350<br>..4....SOVEREIGN 350<br>..1....SWEET CAPORAL 46O Factory 25<br>..1....SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 42<br>..5....SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 42 (ovpt)<br>..6....TOLSTOI<br>11....OLD MILL<br><br>The easier ones......<br><br>..4....SWEET CAPORAL 46O Factory 30<br>..1....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 25<br>14....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 30<br>12....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 25<br>16....PIEDMONT 350 Factory 25<br>11....POLAR BEAR<br><br><br>We have a total of 127 inputs....but, we need at least 200 inputs in order to arrive at some<br> meaningful conclusions.<br><br><br>Guys and gals, don't be shy....show or tell us of your Red Cobb cards.<br><br><br><br><br><br>TED Z<br><br>

Archive 04-16-2009 10:05 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Richard</b><p>Ted -<br><br>Here is a drum. Not mine, but wish it was.<br><br><a href="http://www.huntauctions.com/online/imageviewer.cfm?auction_num=32&amp;lot_num=646&amp ;lot_qual=" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.huntauctions.com/online/imageviewer.cfm?auction_num=32&amp;lot_num=646&amp ;lot_qual=</a><br><br>

Archive 04-17-2009 07:48 AM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>I was aware of this Cobb when the Hunt find was reported. <br><br>But, I didn't input it, hoping that some one here would provide a scan. <br><br><br>Thanks again, <br><br>TED Z <br><br><br><br>

Archive 04-20-2009 08:34 AM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Thanks to Richard and 4 emails responses from Net54 readers, we have 6 more inputs.<br><br><br>TED Z<br><br>

Archive 04-20-2009 08:37 AM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p><img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/abredcobbsov460.jpg" alt="[linked image]"><br><br><br>UPDATED survey....4/20/09<br><br>Scarcest group......<br><br>..1....BROAD LEAF 460<br>..1....DRUM<br>..1....HINDU (red)<br>..3....LENOX (black)<br>..0....UZIT<br>..3....SOVEREIGN 460<br>12....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 42<br>..6....CAROLINA BRIGHTS<br>..5....CYCLE 460<br>..3....EPDG<br><br>Next toughest group......<br><br>..7....AMERICAN BEAUTY 350<br>..1....CYCLE 350<br>..4....SOVEREIGN 350<br>..1....SWEET CAPORAL 46O Factory 25<br>..1....SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 42<br>..5....SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 42 (ovpt)<br>..6....TOLSTOI<br>11....OLD MILL<br><br>The easier ones......<br><br>..4....SWEET CAPORAL 46O Factory 30<br>..1....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 25<br>14....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 30<br>12....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 25<br>20....PIEDMONT 350 Factory 25<br>11....POLAR BEAR<br><br><br>We have a total of 133 inputs.....it doesn't look like we'll attain the 200 figure that I hoped for.<br>Anyhow, we are 2/3 rds of the way there, and that will do for now.<br><br><br>If there are anymore Cobb collectors out there, please show or tell us of your Red Cobb cards.<br><br>And, the only T206 back that has not been reported is the UZIT....does any one have one ?<br><br><br>TED Z<br><br><br><br>

Archive 04-20-2009 12:18 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Glyn Parson</b><p>I have a Piedmont 460 Factory 25.

Archive 04-21-2009 12:30 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p> GLYN....thanks for your PIEDMONT 460/25 input. <br><br>Also, I received a Net54 reader's email input with a TOLSTOI back.<br><br><br><img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/abredcobbuzitms.jpg" alt="[linked image]"><br><br><br>Here's my UZIT red Cobb.....it's too bad that it's my gimmicked-up fake. Otherwise, if real, it would <br>be a really unique error that would command big $$$$$$.<br>Actually, I'm surprised that such printing mistakes haven't been found, since American Lithographic<br> was printing these Red Cobb's and the T80 Military men cards, simultaneously, in early 1911. <br><br>In any event, still looking for a Red Cobb with a UZIT back to confirm its 24 different T206 backs.<br><br>Or, any other Red Cobb's will do ? <br> <br><br>TED Z<br><br>

Archive 04-21-2009 12:42 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Todd</b><p>I have one red Cobb. <br><br>It has an Old Mill back. <br>

Archive 04-21-2009 01:45 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Bruce Babcock</b><p>Hi, Ted. I agree completely with you about resubmissions and ungraded cards owned by old farts like me. I was surprised, though, by how many have been graded, even accounting for resubmissions.

Archive 04-21-2009 07:35 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>gil lindgren</b><p>ted,you can add a sweet caporal 350 factory #30 to the list.

Archive 04-21-2009 11:12 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Jeff D.</b><p>You can add another Piedmont 460 factory 25 to the list.

Archive 04-22-2009 08:19 AM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>brian p</b><p>One more Piedmont 350 factory 25 can be added to the list.<br><br>Brian

Archive 04-22-2009 09:43 AM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Thanks for bringing up this subject again. I have given this some thought and I think we can extrapolate and arrive at <br>an educated guess to answer your original question. Let's do a little math here......<br><br>Let's assume that this random survey of 40,000 T206 cards is valid. It yielded 196 red Cobb's......and, an over all ave-<br>rage (OAA) of 78 each of the other 509 T206's.<br><br>40,000/509 T206 Subjects = OAA of 78 T206's.....509 = 524 - (the Big 6, 6-Super Prints, Dahlen, Elberfeld, Lundgren) <br> <br>40,000/196 = a red Cobb per every 200 cards<br><br><br>Red Cobb/OAA = 2.5 red Cobb's per any other 509 Subjects<br><br>Simply stated, the Red Cobb lies somewhere between a Double Print and a Triple Print.<br><br><br>Furthermore, Scot Reader, in his book &quot;Inside T206&quot;, has a chapter on the &quot;survivability&quot; of the T206 cards. If I recall<br> correctly, he estimates approx. 1 to 2 Million cards. I think Scot's estimate is a good one.<br><br>So, if we divide 1 Million T206's by 200, it yields 5,000 red Cobb's. This number might sound high; and, I'm sure I'll be<br> challenged on this population #.....but, that's my best guess. <br><br><br>Best regards,<br><br>TED Z<br><br><br><br>

Archive 04-22-2009 01:12 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Thanks....TODD....GIL....JEFF....BRIAN....fo r your Red Cobb inputs.<br><br>I'm going to visit an old hobby friend tonite who has a huge T206 collection (all ungraded), which includes 8 red Cobb's.<br><br>So, I will be upgrading this survey late tonite or tomorrow with at least 14 new inputs.<br><br><br><br>TED Z<br><br>

Archive 04-22-2009 01:15 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Mike Mattison</b><p>Polar Bear for me.

Archive 04-22-2009 01:25 PM

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 
Posted By: <b>Todd</b><p>Ted,<br><br>Your survey is very interesting.<br><br>It would be nice to know how many of the cards sampled have been graded.<br><br>Most of my card collection is ungraded.<br><br><br>Wonka - Love that yellow and purple Cobb !<br><br>Keep up the good work !


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