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Brian Van Horn 07-20-2009 11:06 PM

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A couple more:

ecRich 07-20-2009 11:07 PM

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1929 Becker Bros. Theatre
I think each is one of a kind

Brian Van Horn 07-20-2009 11:08 PM

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Last installment:

edhans 07-21-2009 05:35 AM

Re: Rarity
 
Great stuff!

http://www.thecybersource.com/~edhans/funcharr.jpg

thekingofclout 07-21-2009 06:22 AM

It's the photo that one of the most popular Exhibit cards was made from..
 
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As far as rarities go, this original vintage Conlon TYPE I photograph is the only known example in private hands...thankfully, those hands are mine :)

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tedzan 07-21-2009 06:59 AM

Rarity
 
The SOVEREIGN 460 red Cobb is extremely rare....only 4 have been confirmed.


<img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/abredcobbsov460.jpg" alt="[linked image]">



I'm not sure how many 1910 Coupon (T213-1) Cobb's are out there; but, these "gems"
are extremely rare.
I would bet there are more Red Cobb/Ty Cobb cards in circulation than this Coupon one.


<img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/1910couponcobb.jpg" alt="[linked image]">



T-Rex TED

GaryPassamonte 07-21-2009 07:17 AM

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1875 Hartfords.

dstudeba 07-21-2009 08:44 AM

One of three known.

http://www.baseballcardresource.com/...I_Weaver_A.jpg

yanksfan09 07-21-2009 09:04 AM

I think all of my D381's would classify as old, check my link

T206Collector 07-21-2009 09:12 AM

Signed Walter Johnson T206 & Double-Signed T201 (Doyle & Meyers)
 
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/61xD7QwRDrDXru4LoSfWtQ?authkey=Gv1sRgCNHhgMuiptWNc g&feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_Ys7fw31kTDs/SVBQRQ4-ARI/AAAAAAAAFiY/y9WO5l4QbAs/s800/JohnsonPitchingPSADNA.jpg" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/pmifsud3d/AutographedT206?authkey=Gv1sRgCNHhgMuiptWNcg&feat= embedwebsite">Autographed T206</a></td></tr></table>

<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/JCdlbFV4c13KTHQpTmmXaw?authkey=Gv1sRgCKiHg9bOhbfTM w&feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/_Ys7fw31kTDs/RxQJqntTj-I/AAAAAAAAB5I/T9ln45Mbk8g/s800/Doyle-Meyers%20T201%20Auto%20SGC%2040.jpg" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/pmifsud3d/AutographedT201?authkey=Gv1sRgCKiHg9bOhbfTMw&feat= embedwebsite">Autographed T201</a></td></tr></table>

bijoem 07-21-2009 09:22 AM

1935-37 Burke Stamp Wagner
 
http://www.internetville.com/images/...agnerStamp.jpg

DixieBaseball 07-21-2009 09:57 AM

Tin Top Rarity...
 
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This is the only example I have ever seen... I know he has an Atlanta Colgan Tin Top which is rare as well. Harry split time between Atlanta and Nashville in 1912-13, while winning back to back Southern League Batting Titles. I always get a charge out of looking down the list of Southern Batting Champs and seeing Speaker in 1907, Jackson in 1910, and Welchonce in 1912 and 1913...

Ladder7 07-21-2009 10:03 AM

Great thread and proves there are far more rarer cards than "The Card".

Been trying to upgrade this one for a few years (the back is even worse). Just can't seem to lacate another anywhere.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...RuthGehrig.jpg

smtjoy 07-21-2009 11:53 AM

Very Nice 31-32 Exhibit, if you ever upgrade I would be interested in that one for sure. Here is a 33 Exhibit Ruth-

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...33exnyal50.jpg

canjond 07-21-2009 06:25 PM

I would venture to guess this may be the nicest one in existence (of the few that there are)...

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...eld/S110-1.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...ield/S1102.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...ield/S1103.jpg

E93 07-21-2009 07:05 PM

<a href='http://img132.imageshack.us/i/n167gillespie.jpg/'><img src='http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7383/n167gillespie.jpg' border='0' alt='Image Hosted by ImageShack.us'/></a><br/>

And one of those B.S. condition rarities, just for the hell of it. ;)

<a href='http://img241.imageshack.us/i/e93cobbpsa8300dpi2.jpg/'><img src='http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/7166/e93cobbpsa8300dpi2.jpg' border='0' alt='Image Hosted by ImageShack.us'/></a><br/>

E93 07-21-2009 07:15 PM

Richard,
Nice Clement Bros. Cobb. Is that the holy grail for Cobb collectors?

Paul,
Awesome autographed T206 Johnson.
JimB

Bicem 07-21-2009 07:28 PM

I'll allow THAT one Jim!

calvindog 07-21-2009 08:09 PM

Jim, beautiful card, truly. Not sure how that one didn't get a bump.

As for the holy grail for Cobb collectors...hmm...I'd have to say that it is the Boston Garter color card which Hunt auctioned off a couple years back.

Rob D. 07-21-2009 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 737503)
As for the holy grail for Cobb collectors...hmm...I'd have to say that it is the Boston Garter color card which Hunt auctioned off a couple years back.

Any consideration for the Ty Cobb/Ty Cobb back?

bijoem 07-21-2009 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 737503)
Jim, beautiful card, truly. Not sure how that one didn't get a bump.

As for the holy grail for Cobb collectors...hmm...I'd have to say that it is the Boston Garter color card which Hunt auctioned off a couple years back.


I'm not passionate about Cobb cards, but he is one of the players I collect.

The Clement Bros. is by far my favorite cobb card.

calvindog 07-21-2009 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob D. (Post 737504)
Any consideration for the Ty Cobb/Ty Cobb back?

Not for me because it has a front similar to the T206...the BG is just so different from any Cobb card..and it looks beautiful. I was the underbidder but am confident I would have never outbid the guy who won it...so that helps...a bit.

paul 07-21-2009 10:33 PM

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Geez, I've been missing out on all the fun. Sorry, these aren't to scale and I don't know why they are squished up next to each other. They are: 1904 Allegheny Frank Selee, 1902 W600 Hugh Jennings as a player with Philadelphia, T5 Pinkerton of Joe McCarthy as a player, Acebo (Cuban) of Chuck Connors, and Imperial Chocolate (Cuba) of Ruth and Hornsby.

Exhibitman 07-22-2009 06:03 AM

Wow, great stuff, guys!
 
Like visiting a museum.

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...&pictureid=901
http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...&pictureid=902
http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...&pictureid=903
http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...&pictureid=904
http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...&pictureid=905

tedzan 07-22-2009 08:00 AM

"RARITY" can also be a function of supply vs demand
 
Not sure how rare my Obak Ten Million card is....but, in terms of the "law of supply vs demand", this card
in my opinion is in effect....a "RARE" card.

<img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/obakcarlisletenmillion.jpg" alt="[linked image]">



TED Z

E93 07-22-2009 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 737503)
Jim, beautiful card, truly. Not sure how that one didn't get a bump.

It was the lack of eye-appeal. :confused: Mint corners and no staining.
JimB

rman444 07-22-2009 08:58 AM

There are a ton of great cobb cards, but I would put the BG cobb near the top of the list as well.

triwak 07-22-2009 10:30 AM

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Kenny Cole - Love those Negro League HOFers! Here's a handful of toughies:

tbob 07-22-2009 10:58 AM

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Not one of the E95 notebook cover Chances (they all have Chicago at the bottom). The NY name means it was issued or prepared to be issued or proofed to be part of a new but never issued set years after the E95 set was issued. Two others exist, a Kling Boston (mine) and one other which belongs to Keith Olberman (drawing a blank).

uffda51 07-22-2009 10:59 AM

http://photos.imageevent.com/uffda51...gscanKelly.jpg

uffda51 07-22-2009 11:00 AM

http://photos.imageevent.com/uffda51...Wagner1911.jpg

uffda51 07-22-2009 11:01 AM

http://photos.imageevent.com/uffda51...JUSTEADcab.jpg

uffda51 07-22-2009 11:03 AM

http://photos.imageevent.com/uffda51.../Beaneater.JPG

uffda51 07-22-2009 11:07 AM

http://photos.imageevent.com/uffda51...DVBirdsall.jpg

My kind of thread. Some great stuff, guys. I've posted 5 cards not typically found in your grandfather's attic.

barrysloate 07-22-2009 11:47 AM

Bruce- I purchased the Birdsall as well as the other ten Boston players from a woman who was selling them on ebay. She claimed she pulled all the Wright material out of a dumpster!

That's even better than her grandfather's attic.:)

aaroncc 07-22-2009 01:11 PM

I have yet to see another one of these. This is a U.K. studio.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...CDVJCHeena.jpg


http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...tCDVJCHe-1.jpg

GaryPassamonte 07-22-2009 01:53 PM

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Bruce,
Here's the Barnes to match your Birdsall.

mzm55 07-22-2009 02:10 PM

Here are a few genuinely rare baseball items:

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m...ds/ryancdv.jpg

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m...igfoster-1.jpg

E93 07-22-2009 02:14 PM

TBob,
That E95 Chance proof is cool!
JimB

canjond 07-22-2009 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by E93 (Post 737664)
TBob,
That E95 Chance proof is cool!
JimB

TBob - love the card but I'm curious, can we be certain it isn't off an different notebook... one produced after the E95 notebooks? I only ask because the left side of the card appears to have black frame-like lines.

bmarlowe1 07-22-2009 03:15 PM

mzm55:

Who is the guy in the top cdv?

GaryPassamonte 07-22-2009 05:40 PM

I believe the player in the "top CdV" is Johnny Ryan. Along with this Warren CdV, he is also pictured on a Warren cabinet in full Boston uniform. This is interesting because he never played for Boston. Maybe others can solve this apparent mystery.

mzm55 07-22-2009 06:01 PM

Gary's correct, it's Johnny Ryan. Do you have an image of the team cabinet, Gary?

I believe Scott Forest addressed Ryan and his interesting career in a publication years ago but I don't remember the exact details.

barrysloate 07-22-2009 06:01 PM

Gary is correct, it's Johnny Ryan.

jim 07-22-2009 06:02 PM

a little Gehrig
 
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cool blue color to boot.
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scotty21690 07-22-2009 06:04 PM

Wow, seeing all of these extremely rare cards is jaw-dropping!

Too bad I have none to contribute. Ah well, I am just as content browsing!:D

GaryPassamonte 07-22-2009 06:06 PM

The team cabinet is pictured in the December 2005 Sotheby's/SCP Auction catalogue. It is in Lot #1.

GaryPassamonte 07-22-2009 06:08 PM

I should have said individual cabinet instead of team cabinet.

phlflyer1 07-22-2009 07:04 PM

I wont post any high grade E98s (or E93s since thats Jim B's department) but here are a couple of 1/1 cards.

http://home.comcast.net/~jillmay5/ba...obb_Graded.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~jillmay5/ba...ner_Graded.jpg

fkw 07-22-2009 07:36 PM

I post these too much...


But here are my top 3 unique "mystery" cards :)

Mystery Ruth Premium (either a prototype R309-2, or a R340?)
http://centuryoldcards.com/images/1933r340ruth.jpg
Unique, extra wide green border and green name plaque, better photo quality than the R309-2, different style easel. Some have said it might be a R340 Sport Kings Premium (unissued as planned, see wrapper scan)
http://centuryoldcards.com/images/sportkingswrapper.jpg


ca.1941 D-unc. Kroger Bread
http://centuryoldcards.com/images/1941krogerriddle.jpg
unique, never seen another...yet

postwar unique Aaron
http://centuryoldcards.com/images/19...rbeeraaron.jpg
discovered on eBay 2 years ago, unique, never seen another...yet
(different style than the more common HR Derby cards, players name moved from bottom to top and beer logo placed at bottom)


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