I almost bid on that Sanella book, but I figured I would be lucky to break even. I felt sorry for him because it seemed like he thought the book was worth quite a bit.

If andrew has it and his story is to be believed, there was one heckuva conspiracy involving heritage the nuns and dr depace. I suppose anything is possible except that both stories are true.

Steve,

I will admit, you do offer a compelling, well reasoned, and very reasonable stance. The thing I am most curious about is whether the card in question has changed hands since the auction. If not, then the OP is complete BS. If so, I will have some egg on my face, too. After all, I also threw a few barbs at him.

Best,
Eric

Leon,
Thanks for outing this apparent phony. I'm wondering if there is any card other than the Wagner that would invite this much (proper) scrutiny . . . .
Scot

Makes no difference if it changed hands later the two versions are still irreconcilable.

Soooo........any word on that picture of him and the card yet? :)

I don't know how much longer I can hold my breath.....

I am still waiting. And I am still in a bit of awe that he just played it off on the phone the way he did. I was waiting for him to start laughing and say it was a big joke but he never did. I told him over and over I was looking at the card in other places, from one of the Nun's public appearances to the NY Times, to Heritage etc... Oh well...

So here is the alternative. The real consignor is andrew's grandfather. That is boring so Heritage invents a story about nuns and gets an order of nuns to play along, or somehow feeds a phony story and phony quotes to the press who takes them at face value. The granfather or a proxy is the high bidder on a safety bid so the card does not sell and Heritage makes up a story about a nonpaying bidder. Then Heritage invents a private sale andgets amajor customer Dr. de Pace to play along. Meanwhle the card is really in Tennessee with Andrew. Ok.

Andrew, thank you. I needed a laugh today.

Seems plausible.....:cool:

So did he have a response to the evidence you shared with him? Or did he just keep telling you the same thing over and over?

Maybe Andrew hasn't responded yet because the Lord is angry with him and hath smote him down?

David

well, we asked.....

Woah!

:eek: ive got a nice 56' mantle to trade...and ill even throw in an early ruth!!!