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brob28 10-08-2015 04:03 PM

Such interesting reading, nice to peek inside their world. Thanks for sharing Leon.

Leon 10-28-2015 11:33 AM

My guess is that in the far future these treasures might end up in a museum and be on display for all to see but for now our board will have to do. This August 10th, 1960 letter is his most poignant yet.

http://luckeycards.com/burdickeletter1960aug10z.jpg
http://luckeycards.com/burdickletter1960aug10zb.jpg

Bpm0014 10-28-2015 02:03 PM

Fascinating. Thanks for sharing.

Hot Springs Bathers 10-28-2015 03:12 PM

Oh my, that is touching. I wonder if he is referring to George Lyons theater critic and father of Jeffrey? I made some great T206 purchases from him in the mid-70's.

1880nonsports 10-28-2015 06:00 PM

couple dozen
 
tobacco banners - OUCH!

toppcat 10-28-2015 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hot Springs Bathers (Post 1466098)
Oh my, that is touching. I wonder if he is referring to George Lyons theater critic and father of Jeffrey? I made some great T206 purchases from him in the mid-70's.

I don't think that's right. It might be George Lyons but he was not the father of Jeffrey according to Wikipedia.

wheitman 10-28-2015 10:35 PM

The George Lyons you are referring to was a stock broker. He got involved with card collecting in the '70s. He used to call me 3 or 4 times a week from his job. Jeffrey Lyons is his brother and long time newspaper columnist, Leonard Lyons, was his father. George wrote a column for Dan Dischley's Trader Speaks called "The Lyons Roar". He certainly did!!!

Hot Springs Bathers 10-29-2015 09:21 PM

Thanks!

Leon 12-17-2015 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bpm0014 (Post 1466061)
Fascinating. Thanks for sharing.

Here is the last Burdick letter from the John Wagner hobby letters and publications sold by Hunts several months back. There will be many more 1930s and later letters shared from other collectors too. Enjoy.....

http://luckeycards.com/burdickletter1960y.jpg
http://luckeycards.com/burdickletter1960b.jpg

Jeffrompa 12-17-2015 01:23 PM

Oh boy
 
That 40 to 50 cents for baseball caramel cards sure sounds good .

Leon 12-19-2015 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffrompa (Post 1482582)
That 40 to 50 cents for baseball caramel cards sure sounds good .

Back in 1960 that was still some money.

Leon 01-25-2016 01:42 PM

Thanks for the clarity, Bill. Hope all is well your way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheitman (Post 1466278)
The George Lyons you are referring to was a stock broker. He got involved with card collecting in the '70s. He used to call me 3 or 4 times a week from his job. Jeffrey Lyons is his brother and long time newspaper columnist, Leonard Lyons, was his father. George wrote a column for Dan Dischley's Trader Speaks called "The Lyons Roar". He certainly did!!!


Leon 01-24-2017 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1495780)
Thanks for the clarity, Bill. Hope all is well your way.

Anyone collecting old hobby publications knows how rare anything from the 1930s is....We have approximately a thousand new members since this was last bumped, and the hobby history threads seem to be well received, so here are some Burdick letters again.

Leon 02-05-2017 12:33 PM

Added a few more Burdick letters from later in his life, to famed collector and associate, Buck Barker. They were lamenting printing costs for what would be Jefferson's last version of the ACC.
Thanks much to a board member for these....and the fact I saw his BST listing in less than 10 minutes :)....

http://luckeycards.com/burdickletterjan1960.jpg
http://luckeycards.com/burdickletterfeb1960.jpg

Leon 06-05-2018 09:13 AM

1962 Letter
 
A new addition all the way from Canada. And ironically the latest letter collected so far. Mr. Burdick wrote this approximately 13 mos. before he passed away. He was in severe pain by now. Most believe his death was due to complications from his severe arthritis.

http://luckeycards.com/burdickletter1962.jpg

Leon 08-28-2019 11:33 AM

Been a while....
 
Since it has been a while, and we have had lots of new registrants, a friendly bump is due for an interesting (to me at least) thread from 4 years ago. I am always in the market for more Burdick letters! (shameless plug) :o
Enjoy.

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uniship 08-29-2019 08:20 AM

cool
 
Thanks for resetting this thread. Fascinating stuff. If you don't mind me asking, where did you acquire the bulk of these original letters?

Leon 08-30-2019 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uniship (Post 1912505)
Thanks for resetting this thread. Fascinating stuff. If you don't mind me asking, where did you acquire the bulk of these original letters?

They were in a Hunt auction. They might have come from the great hobbyist John Wagner's collection. (no relation to Honus).

Jamie_h 06-27-2020 06:29 PM

Great posts Leon! Thank you for posting these....

insidethewrapper 06-27-2020 07:05 PM

Letters should be listed on the Non-Sports site also, they may be interested. Mostly non-sport items.

Leon 05-26-2021 08:05 AM

A nice picture of Burdick and the only one I have ever seen..

https://luckeycards.com/burdick1.jpg

butchie_t 05-26-2021 08:27 AM

Awesome read!!!!

Thanks for bumping this Leon.
B.T.

steve B 05-26-2021 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1434729)
Not sure of anything except the first mention from 521 to 522, which I have seen so far, is in the 1942 Supplement to the US Card Catalog (ACC). It states 521 but then goes on to say, in parenthesis the values of certain cards and mentions (467-522). I am still digging and while digging added another letter to post 22 (above) in order to stay in chronological order. Burdick mentions to Wagner (John D) that Edwards is offering $2.00 for a Wagner in #521....

Those are the old set designations before the T,E,R etc he went to.

T206 was set catalog number 521
T207 was set catalog number 522

chadeast 05-26-2021 02:48 PM

Yes, thanks Leon! I hadn't see this before either. Amazing pieces of card collecting history!

carlsonjok 05-26-2021 08:33 PM

Thank you for bumping this up to the top. Reading these letters is fascinating. The thing that struck me is Burdick's generosity of spirit. He really seemed more interested in helping others than actually being compensated for it.

If you'll indulge me, it reminded me of when I first got back into collecting about 10 years ago. I was just starting to build the 1976 Topps baseball set when I was notified that I was being laid off. I went on a hobby hiatus while I was out of work. Early in my unemployment, when I was still feeling sorry for myself, I got an unsolicited package of a large number of cards for my 1976 set from Chris Stufflestreet. It was just a friendly gesture from one collector to another and he never wanted anything in return. He passed away not six months later and I never had the opportunity to pay his generosity back. I've tried to pay it forward, but I don't trade much anymore, so I probably still have a ways to go to get out of the debt, so to speak.

Casey2296 05-26-2021 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlsonjok (Post 2107231)
Thank you for bumping this up to the top. Reading these letters is fascinating. The thing that struck me is Burdick's generosity of spirit. He really seemed more interested in helping others than actually being compensated for it.

If you'll indulge me, it reminded me of when I first got back into collecting about 10 years ago. I was just starting to build the 1976 Topps baseball set when I was notified that I was being laid off. I went on a hobby hiatus while I was out of work. Early in my unemployment, when I was still feeling sorry for myself, I got an unsolicited package of a large number of cards for my 1976 set from Chris Stufflestreet. It was just a friendly gesture from one collector to another and he never wanted anything in return. He passed away not six months later and I never had the opportunity to pay his generosity back. I've tried to pay it forward, but I don't trade much anymore, so I probably still have a ways to go to get out of the debt, so to speak.

Nice post Jeff.
You'll still find folks like that here and on OBC. Giving away cards to a fellow collector is, how do I say this, the most fulfilling thing about this hobby. IMO the last card in a set should always be a gift and I look forward to giving more cards away because I think I receive more from giving a card than the person getting a card. Giving in this hobby eclipses any monetary level, it's the highest compliment you can pay to yourself and a fellow collector.

Most folks don't get it but the ones that do are in a pretty exclusive club.

Piratedogcardshows 05-27-2021 08:34 AM

I enjoyed revisiting the thread. They don't make them like JB anymore.

mouschi 05-27-2021 09:05 AM

One of the many reasons I love Net54. A couple short years ago, I was madly in love with cardboard (as I am now...as I have been for years and years) and didn't even know the name Jefferson Burdick. So happy that this place keeps this history alive and well!

Leon 06-19-2022 08:56 PM

Yearly bump for those whom might not have seen it

UKCardGuy 06-20-2022 04:31 PM

Thanks for the bump Leon.

That's a great read. It's great to see the history of the earliest days of our hobby.

rjackson44 06-20-2022 06:48 PM

Terrific

jingram058 06-20-2022 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rjackson44 (Post 2235948)
Terrific

+1

Leon 06-15-2024 08:18 AM

Bi-annual bump as we have over 1000 new members since the last one... Happy collecting!
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frankbmd 06-15-2024 09:23 AM

My father worked with Burdick at Crouse-Hinds in Syracuse, NY before the war and me.:D

Unfortunately he did not recall meeting him in person and Burdick never sent him a letter.:(

lumberjack 06-15-2024 03:33 PM

Burdick was born in 1900. There is a pretty concise bio of him on Wikipedia.
He was a young guy, early middle age anyway, when these letters were written.

My question, what is the source of the Burdick letters? And is there anyone around today who knew him. 60 years is a stretch, but it's possible.

lumberjack

Leon 06-17-2024 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjack (Post 2441469)
Burdick was born in 1900. There is a pretty concise bio of him on Wikipedia.
He was a young guy, early middle age anyway, when these letters were written.

My question, what is the source of the Burdick letters? And is there anyone around today who knew him. 60 years is a stretch, but it's possible.

lumberjack

The source of the letters was from the John D Wagner (no relation to Honus) collection. I got them in a Hunt auction 9 yrs ago. A good hobby friend alerted me to the auction and I think I won all of the lots except 1. I don't think it had Burdick letters in it. I gave my friend, a board member, one of the envelopes with a Burdick signature and he was happy. A win-win...
I would have to guess there are still a few people alive that met him, but not sure.
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Leon 08-06-2025 01:22 PM

Time for a yearly bump for those that might not have seen these. Enjoy!

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minibbcards 08-06-2025 02:19 PM

thanks Leon.
my grandfather and a couple of his brothers worked at Crouse-Hinds for decades and i am sure they knew Burdick since they were of the same age. My dad was born in '25 and would have been 100 last month and was collecting cards in the 30s and now i wonder if he met Burdick since he would have been a kid in the same neighborhood as Burdick. sadly when my dad and i went looking for his cards in my grandparents attic back in the 70s we came up empty, maybe they ended up in Burdick's collection? LOL.
great letters from a bygone era of collecting.

Zach Wheat 08-06-2025 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1880nonsports (Post 1427153)
.....
Also while a bit obvious in context - I had never considered the added difficulties of communicating and exchanging goods/funds with our European counterparts during the war years beyond what we experience now. Yet another impasse dealt with by the pioneers. :D

Agree...and they even sent cards out before receiving payment!

Kevin 08-07-2025 07:17 AM

Unfortunately, it looks like the South Course Street in Syracuse is now a parking lot. The Briggs Street address in Harrisburg and the Ridgeview Avenue address in White Plains look probably much like they did in 1936…


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