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Dto7 08-21-2016 02:01 AM

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Ted Sullivan

GehrigFan 08-21-2016 12:10 PM

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Alright, here is what I have so far...

bmarlowe1 08-21-2016 03:54 PM

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We have the photo in question below center, Steve Evans exemplar left, Ray Schalk exemplar right. Thinking that the the guy in the middle may be Schalk is as ludicrous as the Thorpe ID.

Dto7 08-21-2016 05:10 PM

Ray Schalk just played the stateside tour...never went overseas with the tour.

bmarlowe1 08-21-2016 05:17 PM

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Ray Schalk just played the stateside tour...never went overseas with the tour.

I guess that's a nicer way to put it :)

GehrigFan 08-21-2016 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bmarlowe1 (Post 1575170)
We have the photo in question below center, Steve Evans exemplar left, Ray Schalk exemplar right. Thinking that the the guy in the middle may be Schalk is as ludicrous as the Thorpe ID.

While I greatly appreciate your helpfulness on this, I am baffled why you felt compelled to take that kind of belittling attitude? I clearly said I was posting this to get input from you guys because I respect your opinions. I also thought it would be helpful for others because no one else had previously identified the players on this card. I just happened to have a crazy good $400 scope from my job that wotks with a camera, so it made identification possible now.

I have been trying to identify some of the other players and execs (looking for Ban Johnson, etc.) instead of confirming everyone else at this point; thus the reason I put question marks by a few names I still have to look into. I am not claimimg it is definitely Thorpe or Schalk - I just put the possible names with question marks.

bmarlowe1 08-21-2016 07:04 PM

Yeah you're right - sorry. I'm just jaded by years of similar discussions on this board.

Note that besides Thorpe, Mickey Doolin, Dick Egan, Larry Doyle, Fred Merkle and Ivy Wingo don't appear to be present. Also, there were at least 14 other men (non-players) on the tour. For many of them, exemplar photos are hard to come by. Thus there are quite a few possibilities for the guy you IDed as Thorpe.

Dto7 08-21-2016 11:16 PM

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Thomas Lynch

Dto7 08-23-2016 03:38 PM

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Harry Burchell was on the trip.

Dto7 08-24-2016 12:49 AM

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Norris (Tip) O'Neill White Sox treasurer was on the trip.

bmarlowe1 08-24-2016 03:01 PM

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Dick Egan

bmarlowe1 08-24-2016 11:46 PM

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Jack Sheridan left. Guy on right absolutely not Sheridan.

pbspelly 08-31-2016 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by GehrigFan (Post 1573472)
Thanks! I do think it is Ted Sullivan, as well. At first I thought possibly Billy Sullivan (who may have been on the trip, too), but I think the guy in the pic looks too old, so Ted sounds right.

Forgot about Schaefer. Although I was mostly interested in HOFers or Black Sox, at this point it is just a fun project and I will compile (and post) as complete of a list of everyone (by rows) as possible.

Don't think Billy Sullivan was on the trip. He was pretty much done with the Sox by that point.

bmarlowe1 09-01-2016 07:34 PM

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Sometimes the perfect debunking photo turns up, this time from Christies.


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