Nope, they are leaning into the outrage. The flag has been painted over. I know that house, really nice spot! We have friends that live on Common, just on the other side of the high school.

I can recall a few short years ago where every major auction occasioned weeks of heated anticipation on the board. Now they just come and go without barely a comment. Last week Heritage had a three night major auction. Not one comment that I recall. As others have said, just so many auctions. Need a red Cobb? Or a Goudey Yellow Gehrig? Or a Jackie PSA 1 or 2. They'll seemingly be dozens and dozens more. Why get excited.

Most of the fresh blood in the hobby is for modern refractors and the like. My prediction is after the National prices will dip hard in most areas. People will see that there is a lot more excitement for Jasson Dominguez and Tua stained glass refractor cards than there is for Leafs and Goudeys. Not a bad thing for the hobby. It is what it is. I think people are throwing their money away but I thought Amazon was overpriced at $125.

I don't collect cards because they're valuable. If the modern market would explode and the pre-war market would bottom out I would be the happiest collector in the country.

I understand your feeling.
But it is a double edge sword.
I am more a collector then an investor but I do flip some cards so I can either upgrade or add to my collection

Imagine going back to a time when you didn't need to flip anything and could just collect.

Unless you figure out a way to take them with you when you depart this realm, someone somewhere is going to be selling your collection to someone. I enjoy my collection a great deal and certainly hope I or my heirs can sell it all someday and make a nice profit. Unless I want the cards loaded into my coffin I’m not sure what the alternative is.

A great deal of material available. I thought the story was that mom threw out all the cards. I guess a lot of mom's did not !

I agree with sensory overlook. Can't look at all the auctions etc. Just missed a Wolverine Cobb on Heritage. Didn't even receive an email etc from them.

Have you seen the Red Cobb back run coming up in the August Heritage? Some fantastic cards.

Wouldn't mind that either, at the end of the day, the closest I've gotten to selling would be flipping one of my cards to put the money towards another vintage card I want.

I'll occasionally buy a couple of packs of modern, just to have something to rip, and the moment I do, I say to myself "could've just put it towards something vintage"

Perhaps we have all gotten a bit spoiled by the multitude of blockbuster REA auctions over the years. The current auction looks great, initial bidding response strong and there should be something for all vintage junkies. Also, I suspect excitement about this week's National have some folks guarding their wallets in anticipation. Post Nat'l the 2nd week should see some serious action, as people are able to see the actual auction cards in REA's cases and may be disappointed in their luck in Chicago.

If one concurs that a bull market peaked this past spring (which of course is debatable on another thread :)) the consignment decisions from that time period would now be showing up at REA and Mile High, etc., no?

It's not just REA, it's all the big ones. I mean, even the fact that REA is headlined by a nice T206 Wagner isn't even a big deal. There have been several of those sold in recent months/years - it's just not unusual or exceptional anymore to see items like that offered.

Those hills were killer, that's for sure!! Congrats on your finishes, too! 08,10 and 11 for me (charity fundraiser all 3x). Can't speak to the air in Newton as I was just happy to be moving forward and able to breathe at that point...haha!

No Detroit though.

My excitement at seeing the offerings was immediately tempered by the sky-high bidding only hours into it.

There's one thing in there I might chase a bit...

They have slab values to protect so please take a break from posting about all the scandals and hobby issues 24/7/365. You can come back when you can post something positive about the hobby. Didn't your mommy teach you to keep quiet if you have nothing nice to say?

I'm headed to the corner for a time out, then to the blackboard to write "I love the hobby" 50 times.

I’m kind of in the middle on this brew ha ha. I think the hobby is doing great and vintage is gonna cook these next few years. I don’t really agree with all the negativity around the TPGs but yeah there are definitely issues with cheats and card doctoring no doubt. Gonna be Switzerland on this one. Definitely an entertaining thread in any event.

Your opinion is highly informed. You have excellent, thorough, researched opinions. I respect that.

However.

In this thread, you posted 5 of the first 10 posts.

In this Jordan thread, you had 18 of the 77 posts.

https://www.net54baseball.com/showth...=305262&page=2

I get it - you found that there are cheaters. Bravo. Thank you. Thanks for the warning.

I just don't need to read the same material over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.

.... and over and over and over.

Have a nice day.

I can promise you not everyone feels the way you do. You have your right to your opinion just like everyone else. I appreciate all of Peter's (hi Peter) posts even when I disagree with what he said :).

Many of my posts are responding to people or specifically answering questions, there is still such a thing in life as dialogue, but in any event, just put me on ignore, it's easy enough to do. Problem solved. Have a nice day too.

Many of your posts on BST are giving away cards to kids for free, your generosity as a collector on this forum gives you carty blanchy (sic) to post as much as you want IMHO.

I was talking to a client this morning. His company has been buying businesses like crazy this year (vacation rentals). He says many sellers are concerned about possible changes in capital gains taxes.

Bill

Small violin, please.

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Up up and away.

1952 Topps Jackie Robinson Question
 

I noticed that in this auction there's a PSA 8 1952 Topps Jackie Robinson (lot 5) that started at a minimum bid of $25,000 and an SGC 8 Topps 1952 Jackie Robinson (lot 6) that started at a minimum bid of $10,000.
My question: Why did REA start the bidding at such a WIDE disparity? The centering on the PSA card MIGHT be a tad better. Might.
Why do I ask? I have a SGC 7.5 1952 Topps Jackie Robinson and I'm wondering if I should break it out (when I am ready to sell) and roll the dice by submitting to PSA.
I am planning to go to the National and will ask REA this question BUT I thought the forum might have some insights. What am I missing? Thanks. Peace.

Prob the consigned asked for that price as starting bid.

I would absolutely not break it out and send to PSA. SGC 7.5 is Great :-)

Often the consignor has input regarding where they want the bidding to start. Perhaps that happened in this case. I know PSA slabs sell for more, but have found that 7-8 times out of ten, the SGC card will be superior to the PSA card with the same grade.

PSA is CRUSHING cards these days. I am not believing the gorgeous 6s I am seeing that people are showing me. Probably a colossal failure of AI and failure of graders to override the AI grade. The problem is now that they are fingerprinting cards good luck ever getting them to change it.

Thank You
 

Thank you, gentlemen, for your insights. Three veteran Net54ers sharing their knowledge. Isn't that what this forum is all about?!?
I didn't know I could exercise that kind of clout with an auction house. I remember REA's Calvin Arnold asking me what I was expecting price-wise when I turned over to him my Topps 1971 and 1972 baseball sets earlier this year. I told him, "Calvin, whatever the market is at this time is fine with me. Please, just keep the auction honest (no shill bidders)."
You learn something new every day, right? Peace.

I sold my 52Jack at auction in the Spring head to head, my SGC4 against a PSA 4. Mine was the nicer card by a small margin. It sold for 3K less than the PSA. If you have a 6.5 it will sell well either way, especially if it has eye appeal. Take it to the National and ask PSA what grade they would put on it.

Charge ??
 

..What would PSA charge to look at an SGC card and tell the owner what the crossed grade would be ?? Would they even be able to do that at an overwhelmed National set-up ?

..

Maybe, might be best to have REA back door it for an opinion in exchange for a potential consignment.

Quick Answer? No
 

Quick answer, Mike, is no. They wouldn't have the time.
My SGC 7.5 '52 Jackie Robinson is a real beauty that I am proud to own.
If I am BRUTALLY honest, my initial question on this subject reveals a bit of greed on my part, especially if you look at how the prices on the two '52 Robinsons in the current auction have gone over the past few days. I am still going to ask REA about the HUGE initial differential simply because it smells of preference, IMHO.

These cards could have been trimmed back in the disco days for all we know. The Rosen book I recently read pointed out that cards have been getting altered for a long time.

Ask Brian if he can get a pre grade opinion from PSA, if it crosses at 7.5 or even a 7 PSA you're in business and will be very happy. The more interesting question to me is what card you're going to buy with the money.

No doubt. Doesn't change anything I said though.

I'll defend Peter. He is one of the most valuable and prolific resources on this Board, in particular for exposing fraud in the hobby.

Peter is a solid member here. I don't always agree with his posts but they are always on-point and interesting.

Anyone else having an issue logging into REA? Every time I do it says I need to update my password. But every time I update my password the site doesn't recognize the new password when I go to log in. I have to enter the old password again and am prompted endlessly to update it.

I had to update my password a few days ago and also confirm my account information, but since I did the update, I have logged in with my new password with no issues.

I finally got it to work.

This is my philosophy of late, I have switched to obscure issues and errors as I refuse to bury myself in losses when this returns to the norm. It has been a fight to not clear the drawers with all this new blood in the water when these new collectors are buying like this is 2007 real estate and completely bought into the "investment". I'll be back buying the good pieces in a few years that are soaking in the tears of these noobs.

...also Peter is amazing and needed on this forum for his knowledge and honesty. He'll also still be here in years unlike the rotating cast of characters, lol.