Sorry, double post.

Bob,

I think I get it. New SGC doesn't have to honor anything the old SGC did or said was part of their charter which was something people trusted would be around for a long time.

GAI and SGC were quite different in that most of the old SGC graded material was much more reliable than the GAI encapsulations. Initially GAI was pretty good, but then it became obvious that trimmed/altered cards were being slabbed with numerical grades. After that, I think people lost faith in them and GAI ended up as a suspect TPG (not that they all aren't).

I think the "old" SGC slabs are fine but they were always behind PSA in sales price, especially for post-war cards. It's just a shame that new SGC is turning their back on old SGC slabs. It's all good, I'll be happy to take a discount on an old SGC slabbed card I feel good about.

This thread has probably run its course. My initial reaction to the slabbed trimmed OJ with a numerical grade was just disappointment.