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Republicaninmass 04-12-2023 07:23 AM

Funny to see people post "their cards are only going up"

It's a whole new game when YOU go to sell. Holding and hoping is a strategy, and if you like the cards, it's a bonus. However it is a fool's errand to compare you cards to ones that sell believing they will attain the sale sales price

bobbyw8469 04-12-2023 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewJerome (Post 2331358)
Hi Bobby,

I'm not one to tell you how to run your card sales, but in my opinion regular $0.99 auctions by regular guys like you and me are lost in the shuffle at this point. I have been doing solely buy it nows for a long time now. And I have been very happy with the results. I encourage you to do the same. Then you can negotiate a price you are happy with, so there will be no steals. Of course, this approach does not entail an instant sale as with auctions. But peace of mind on selling price has been worth it for me, even without an instant sale.

Andrew

That's the same thing my better half said to me when I was bitching at her about the auction sales. I just hate being card rich and cash poor though. I wish there was a happy medium. What is your ebay handle?

Snowman 04-13-2023 02:20 AM

I agree with Andrew. Auctioning off cards on ebay as a regular seller with no following is a pretty big gamble unless it's a very high profile key vintage card and you have high quality images. But if you're just selling lower end stuff or even cards below $500 or so, you're often going to be severely disappointed in your hammer prices because you don't have the following like Greg Morris has.

I also sell almost entirely through buy it now listings, and I've had excellent results.

Another aspect that I think people might be overlooking is that eye appeal has become a much bigger factor in hammer prices than it was in years past. I think this is largely due to PSA's moving of the goalposts in recent years, which has caused buyers to examine the spectrum of conditions within grade more closely. If you have a lower eye appeal card, or an old cert, you are going to get absolutely crushed at auction. On the flip side though, if you have a dead centered key vintage card that looks under graded, it's often going to sell for double or even triple "comps". Buyers have always paid a premium for eye appeal, but now, they're paying massive premiums for it.

I hope you don't take offense to this Bobby, because it certainly isn't intended to, but I believe this is what happened with your 55B Mays. I saw that listing and it looked like it should have had a miscut qualifier on it to me, or at least very very close if not. Yours sold for $204, but it's not because the market took a dive, it was because the buyers were looking at the card and not the grade. The very next week, the same card with stronger centering did $316 at auction in the same grade.

AndrewJerome 04-13-2023 12:31 PM

Hi Bobby,

My eBay handle is: slackjob

Andrew

bobbyw8469 04-14-2023 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowman (Post 2331564)
I agree with Andrew. Auctioning off cards on ebay as a regular seller with no following is a pretty big gamble unless it's a very high profile key vintage card and you have high quality images. But if you're just selling lower end stuff or even cards below $500 or so, you're often going to be severely disappointed in your hammer prices because you don't have the following like Greg Morris has.

I also sell almost entirely through buy it now listings, and I've had excellent results.

Another aspect that I think people might be overlooking is that eye appeal has become a much bigger factor in hammer prices than it was in years past. I think this is largely due to PSA's moving of the goalposts in recent years, which has caused buyers to examine the spectrum of conditions within grade more closely. If you have a lower eye appeal card, or an old cert, you are going to get absolutely crushed at auction. On the flip side though, if you have a dead centered key vintage card that looks under graded, it's often going to sell for double or even triple "comps". Buyers have always paid a premium for eye appeal, but now, they're paying massive premiums for it.

I hope you don't take offense to this Bobby, because it certainly isn't intended to, but I believe this is what happened with your 55B Mays. I saw that listing and it looked like it should have had a miscut qualifier on it to me, or at least very very close if not. Yours sold for $204, but it's not because the market took a dive, it was because the buyers were looking at the card and not the grade. The very next week, the same card with stronger centering did $316 at auction in the same grade.

You know...I actually graded TWO 1955 Bowman Mays. One got a two...the other a three. I always thought the two looked nicer than the three. I wonder if PSA accidentally switched the flips on the cards?? Wouldn't surprise me.

bobbyw8469 04-14-2023 05:36 PM

https://imgsrv.sellersourcebook.com/...jpg?1681515320
https://imgsrv.sellersourcebook.com/...jpg?1681515347

bnorth 04-14-2023 05:40 PM

Sell the PSA 2 and tell us how that one does for the grade. It is a nice looking 2.

bobbyw8469 04-14-2023 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 2331967)
Sell the PSA 2 and tell us how that one does for the grade. It is a nice looking 2.

I sold the '2' in a FB group for VCP comps. So technically, the 2 brought more than the '3'. I sold the '2' for $225.


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