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Posted By: <b>Steve f</b><p>Now Debbie Boone, that's a hot topic. Or once was.

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Pat Boone had no good songs!

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Posted By: <b>E, Daniel</b><p>Jeff, I'm just trying to work out if the grand poobah reference is Flinstones or Happy Days....boy did we grow up with the best shows <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br />And Bruce, I can see by your knowledge of the sordid array of posts you've been reading them. Good for you <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14> So what's your favourite 70s band? <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br />I'm a Queen slash Little River Band guy myself.<br /><br />Daniel<br /><br /><br />Ps. Oh, and is there any way I can get any more smile faces into my post? <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p><object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/j6vL7kCK1QM"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/j6vL7kCK1QM" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

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Posted By: <b>Kenneth A. Cohen</b><p>"No one who matters cares." Wow, this is either a great put-on or the words of an outrageous poseur. I'm stumped. <br /><br />PS - Wasn't The Clash the only band who mattered?

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Daniel, definitely a Flintstones reference. And yes, our childhoods were the golden era of cartoons: Atom Ant, Flintstones, Top Cat, Jetsons, Bugs Bunny (reruns at least), Dudley Do-Right, Underdog, et al.

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Ken, most definitely yes.

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Thank you concerned posters. King--you are absolutely right--it is despicable to highjack threads and at a whim turn a serious thread into a punk rock or a Kinks thread or whatever.<br /><br />Sorry Jeff--I believe abortion is the killing of unborn children.<br /><br />Jim

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Posted By: <b>Steve f</b><p>Thanks for that flashback of forbidden love Dan. Though, from the looks of that vid, I suspect her band would have rather chewed on broken glass.

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Jim, I have no doubt that you believe abortion is the killing of unborn children. That is not the point -- the point is, do you believe that all pro-choice people are for the killing of unborn children or just for the right of a woman to do what she wants with her body, notwithstanding the consequences?

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Posted By: <b>E, Daniel</b><p>Jim,<br /><br />How many cells maketh life?<br />And boy, did I dispatch a whole lot of potential life into the ether in my teen years..wonder if god will understand?<br /><br />Daniel

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Posted By: <b>john/z28jd</b><p> I like how Jim just posted that 2 minutes after Leon said he would be at lunch....this should be fun for a couple hours or so <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Jeff,<br /><br />Pro-choice people believe that a woman has the right to kill her unborn child--<br /><br />You can e-mail me if you want this to continue.

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Posted By: <b>Chad</b><p>AWESOMIFICATION! YEAH! <br /><br />I'm going to Costa Rica next month. Anyone have any suggestions for which National Park I should hike through, or a good SCUBA guide on the Pacific side? I promise not to abort anything in exchange for some good tips.<br /><br />--Chad

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Jim Crandell posting off topic remarks in his own thread about posting off topic is priceless.

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Jim, all I can say on this issue is that you need to understand that the conservative view that pro-choice people are all for killing unborn children is close minded and Dick Cheneyish, i.e., we are right, they are wrong and don't dare try to even argue with me on this point. This is why the Republicans fared so badly in November -- they just refused to listen to anyone but the very right wing core of the party. Perhaps a little more ability to hear what the other side has to say might help a bit in the next election. (And this is coming from someone who is for our foreign policy to a large degree)

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Posted By: <b>Ryan Christoff</b><p>I'm with Jim on this one. Like I said before, I think it's the babies that have already been born that we should be killing. <br /><br />To kill an unborn child is just wrong. You should only kill children that have been born. I just can't stress that enough. <br /><br />Please, STOP KILLING UNBORN CHILDREN!!!!<br /><br />At least wait until they've been born. <br /><br />-Ryan<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>This thread is veering off into so many different directions that I need to catch my breath to keep up.<br /><br />Perhaps a good topic to discuss is: What do you think the Kinks' position is on abortion?

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Posted By: <b>DD</b><p>As a mostly lurker, sometimes poster, it is clear why threads that are started by Bruce can become hijacked. Although I have never met him, his use of the royal "we", the word "whilst", and misusing the word "cadre" reeks of arrogance. <br /><br />The board would carry on just as well, if not better without him.<br /><br />I have read several non-card articles and references on Bruce and his firm; these are available on the internet. When he is quoted, it is always "I", and not "we", and the tone is completely different from what he posts here.<br /><br />If his tone was different, I am sure many people would enjoy his contributions and knowledge; fact of the matter is, if you take it from whom it comes, aspersions will always be cast his way.<br /><br />It's clear that there are many people on this board that collect lower end cards and beaters, for whatever reason, that enjoy doing so as much as Bruce enjoys his high-end pursuits.<br /><br />It is also clear that there are people on this board, such as Hal, Leon, Preece, and others whose collections rival, if not surpass Bruces's.<br /><br />Come join the masses Bruce. Drop the better than thou appearance and contribute something positive.<br />

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Posted By: <b>T206Collector</b><p>...wrote a song about abortion. It's called Bodies -- the second track on Never Mind The Bollocks.<br /><br />I would post the lyrics here, but they're unbelievably offensive.<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>So did Graham Parker.<br /><br />By the way, I am outraged that no one caught my Zappa reference above.

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Posted By: <b>Cobby33</b><p>Serenity now...Insanity later!<br /><br />P.S. Understanding that everybody has a right to their opinion and whether it's off-topic or not, I'm amazed at the level of complete ignorance and downright hostility some people choose to employ when making these completely asinie and insensitive (not to mention uninformed and unproven) opinions...

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Posted By: <b>Steve f</b><p> Chad, My favorite bar owner here on the Cape, John Murphy, also owns an 'Americanized' resort on oceanside. They're a very nice family and run a top notch restaurant and pub. He's also a terrific artist. I understand his rates are very good and it's very safe and luxurious.<br /><br /> The Cape surfers rave about the spot. Take a look<br /><br /><a href="http://www.land-ho.com/orleans/flash.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.land-ho.com/orleans/flash.html</a>

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Thank you David Davis. And that is my last comment on the matter.

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Jeff- I can't find your Zappa reference. What is it?

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Jeff,<br /><br />E-mail me to discuss.

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Joe's Garage -- Central Scrutinizer.

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Posted By: <b>Ryan Christoff</b><p>Barry, <br /><br />While I fully support your right to choose to abort your participation in this thread, Jim would rather you didn't. <br /><br />Think about what your next post might have been if you'd only given it a chance! <br /><br />Jim would like to know how it feels to kill your unborn post so coldly. <br /><br />So how does it feel to be a post murderer, Barry? <br /><br />MURDERER!!! <br /><br />-Ryan<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Is this band, Kinks, kinking or what....never heard of them ?<br /><br />Sure, I am dating myself....but, just play me some good ole "Rock" from the 1950's, 1960's<br /> and 1970's.....music I really enjoy and lyrics I can understand.<br /><br />And, as far as I'm concerned...."THE DAY THE MUSIC DIED"....was a day in the mid-1980's.<br /><br /> Shortly, after Fleetwood Mac, Hall & Oates, Kim Carnes, Melissa Manchester, and Blondie<br /> left the scene.<br /><br />T-Rex TED

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Posted By: <b>Ryan Christoff</b><p>Do you mean the 1880's?

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Posted By: <b>Jason L</b><p>That is the primary reason I enjoy this Board<br /><br />This thread is the reason I enjoy visiting every day...it's a sitcom in progress

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Ryan- you've perfectly captured the essence of this thread -spinning out of control <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Jeff- what was the title of the Frank Zappa poster that pictured him sitting on the john? (today's trivia question).

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Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>I Krappa Zappa?

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Surely you mean Frank Zappa Crappa? <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1170266323.JPG">

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Of course, but didn't he spell it "Krappa?" I could be wrong (now doesn't everybody agree this is important stuff?).<br /> <br />Edited to say: I think it was "Phi Zappa Krappa."

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Posted By: <b>Judge Dred (Fred)</b><p>Steve - 867-5309...<br /><br />The sad part is that I didn't have to look that up.... honestly, I looked it up to make sure it was right, but for some stupid reason I remembered it...<br /><br /><br />Jim,<br /><br />I think a lot of threads go off topic because something about the topic (or a post in the thread) triggers a thought to which the human mind, some how, relates. Out of impulse we just can't help ourselves and we either respond to a thread that's gone off topic or we can't control ourselves and we just respond in general. It would be a little difficult to keep every subject, everyday on topic. Could you imagine if we, as humans, only communicated to issues or topics presented to us? It'd be a bit boring. I understand your point of view though. It'd be nice to see a thread about E107 cards remain only about E107 cards. It makes it so that we don't have to weed through all the other stuff to find what were looking for.

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Posted By: <b>E, Daniel</b><p>Wonder if there is any yellow snow outside?<br /><br /><br />Daniel<br /><br /><br />I luuuurve Frank Zappa!

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Barry, you are right! It was Phi Zappa Krappa! Good call.

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Fred,<br /><br />Not to me it wouldn't be boring--I love cards. I like rock music too but I don't think it belongs on Net54.

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Sheik Yerbouti!<br /><br />My favorite Mothers' song was "Return of the Son of Monster Magnet" (Suzy- Suzy Creamcheese- what's got into you?)

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Posted By: <b>Fred Y</b><p>I don't post very often, but this Thread has inspired me!<br /><br />Ryan's mention of the 1880's shows the Thread is getting back on track, so I will contribute--I had an Old Judge once!<br /><br />--and Pat Boone DID have some GOOD songs--I still have my original '45s of "Ain't That a Shame" and "Love Letters in the Sand".<br /><br />Either or BOTH would be appropriate Theme Songs for this Thread!

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Some Pat Boone for Fred<br /><br />Love Letters<br /><object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/nyji-f7Ynpo"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/nyji-f7Ynpo" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Based on the tone of this thread, I am starting to wonder if Niedermeyer might have been a vintage card collector who discouraged off-topic posts? Thoughts? Barry?

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Posted By: <b>Cobby33</b><p>"Pro-choice people believe that a woman has the right to kill her unborn child."<br /><br />That is probably the most absurd and baseless comment I've ever seen on this Board, or anywhere. No wonder this society is in such a state of disarry. Pathetic.<br /><br />P.S. "Come Dancing" circa. 1983 is probably the best Kinks song.

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Did somebody mention Niedermayer???<br /><br /><object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/1W1g93sLiRg"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/1W1g93sLiRg" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>As in Fred Niedermeyer, Ralph Kramden's coworker? ...At this point, anything goes. It's every man for himself.

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Dan, classic. And everyone wondered why Niedermeyer was killed in Vietnam by his own troops....

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Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>sorry jim- i had to contribute here...<br /><br />i totally get your point and agree about thread hijacking...but even you must admit, this entertaining thread has made a wednsday morning alittle more bearable...i now have pat boone playing on my computer (who i never listened to before) as i scroll down this soon-to-become legendary thread... <br /><br />no hard feelings---<br /><br /><img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />am i the 100th post?<br /><br />MS