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A2000 02-25-2018 12:06 PM

'Please PM or email for prices' :rolleyes:

Fballguy 02-25-2018 12:07 PM

Not a term but a practice...

Listing an item auction style on Ebay with an opening bid at or above what the item will actually sell for. Why waste anyone's week? List it "buy it now" or best offer.

Rob

Tom S. 02-25-2018 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arazi4442 (Post 1751356)
There sure seem to be a lot of "Holy Grail"s out there as well.

I don't like the nautical equivalent either... white whale. :mad:

Peter_Spaeth 02-25-2018 12:19 PM

"regrade?"

barrysloate 02-25-2018 12:26 PM

A long, confusing, and convoluted auction lot description which discusses everything except the actual flaws on the card.

chalupacollects 02-25-2018 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kailes2872 (Post 1751271)
Undergraded! (Every...single...card...listed)

(Insert star name) PSA (insert mid grade) should be (insert obnoxious grade at least a point higher)

Agreed... you never see anyone describe and item as "overgraded" do you???

chalupacollects 02-25-2018 12:40 PM

This one is annoying... "there selling on ebay for..." my reply - then why don't you sell it on ebay?

Exhibitman 02-25-2018 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fballguy (Post 1751433)
LOL..Don't cheat the facilitator that requires that you use their other company to pay for items so they can charge you fees twice.

As compared to the problems I had in the wild west days of eBay with payment via check and MO--fake cards, non-conforming goods, cards that were never shipped--I am just fine with handing a bit over for a service that provides accountability. It only takes one fake OJ or non-shipped vintage photo (both events I was 'lucky' enough to be on the buying end of) on eBay to equal all the paypal fees.

Fballguy 02-25-2018 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 1751486)
As compared to the problems I had in the wild west days of eBay with payment via check and MO--fake cards, non-conforming goods, cards that were never shipped--I am just fine with handing a bit over for a service that provides accountability. It only takes one fake OJ or non-shipped vintage photo (both events I was 'lucky' enough to be on the buying end of) on eBay to equal all the paypal fees.

If you're buying from reputable sellers (i.e. those with overwhelmingly positive feedback), I'd say the chances of fake cards, non-conforming goods, cards that were never shipped...is pretty low. Me personally, I'd rather not be charged a fee to pay for an item I've already been charged a fee on.

ullmandds 02-25-2018 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glynparson (Post 1751390)
Though not technically "rare" Piedmont Factory 42 sure as hell aren't easy. Tougher then many of the backs in the set.

Sure just like some sweet Caporal factories are very rare. I think I just threw up in my mouth!

Yoda 02-25-2018 01:28 PM

Except for missing bottom of the card, it would be nrmt. I exaggerate but only slightly.

SMPEP 02-25-2018 02:07 PM

Oh that's easy!

#1 Most annoying hobby term: PSA

#2: SGC

#3: graded by any third party

I long for the days of dealers lying about "NM" cards. That's when it was hobby ... not a cess pool.

KMayUSA6060 02-25-2018 02:09 PM

"NFS" when it's the exact card I'm looking for. :p

byrone 02-25-2018 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fballguy (Post 1751424)
Curious...What would you suggest here instead?

Purchased

1952boyntoncollector 02-25-2018 03:11 PM

For sale but would consider my psa 4 or whatever huge lot of T206 commons for trade for a 1951 Bowman mantle, 1933 ruth or t206 cobb/johnson..

drcy 02-25-2018 03:36 PM

As a photo person, Type 1 instead of original is about the most stupid thing. It's comparable to changing "The sky is blue" to "The sky is color code #356t" just so as to confuse everyone.

ramram 02-25-2018 03:40 PM

“Sold” , unless I’m the seller.

Rob M

ALR-bishop 02-25-2018 03:45 PM

For anyone who also posts on CU you have to deal constantly with

I have poppage

I need poppage

Where is my poppage

Look at my poppage

Fred 02-25-2018 03:54 PM

Ok, what is "poppage"?

111gecko 02-25-2018 03:57 PM

Annoying Terms
 
“I’m not a professional grader...”

1952boyntoncollector 02-25-2018 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 111gecko (Post 1751573)
“I’m not a professional grader...”

what do professional graders say when they list cards..

rhettyeakley 02-25-2018 04:12 PM

Low Pop

Minty

Poppage

a few others as well but those 3 are the ones that grate on my nerves a bit.

nsaddict 02-25-2018 04:23 PM

ex +/- condition-wise ??

bnorth 02-25-2018 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 1751556)
For sale but would consider my psa 4 or whatever huge lot of T206 commons for trade for a 1951 Bowman mantle, 1933 ruth or t206 cobb/johnson..

Not sure why you keep bringing up these type of trades when members have posted how they have done them.:confused:

I know I have been on both sides of those type of trades with other members. In my experience the person with the hand full of cards has to have some extra value on their side to make it happen.:)

1952boyntoncollector 02-25-2018 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 1751592)
Not sure why you keep bringing up these type of trades when members have posted how they have done them.:confused:

I know I have been on both sides of those type of trades with other members. In my experience the person with the hand full of cards has to have some extra value on their side to make it happen.:)

So everyone lists what they have on what annoys them....

and out of EVERYONE, i get criticized on my opinion? I didnt know there was a wrong answer in stating what terms annoy you..

because i may of stated it before which you read in another thread months or years ago doesnt mean i cant say it on this thread. Lot of new people may of not read whatever i wrote before.

alway a counterargument to everything....what some poeple find annoying, others may not.. ( you hate it when people say 'make offer', im sure others disagree) .but i dont see anyone in all of these posts on this thread criticize anyones' choice except you with mine.....

I am still waiting for someone with a 1993 ruth psa 4, or 1951 mantle etc.. asking for 50 or however many needed 20-40 dollars cards for a trade on b/s/t...

orly57 02-25-2018 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 1751599)
So everyone lists what they have on what annoys them....

and out of EVERYONE, i get criticized on my opinion? I didnt know there was a wrong answer in stating what terms annoy you..

because i may of stated it before which you read in another thread months or years ago doesnt mean i cant say it on this thread. Lot of new people may of not read whatever i wrote before.

alway a counterargument to everything....what some poeple find annoying, others may not.. ( you hate it when people say 'make offer', im sure others disagree) .but i dont see anyone in all of these posts on this thread criticize anyones' choice except you with mine.....

I am still waiting for someone with a 1993 ruth psa 4, or 1951 mantle etc.. asking for 50 or however many needed 20-40 dollars cards for a trade on b/s/t...

Nice card. Good luck with the sale.

Fred 02-25-2018 05:02 PM

There it is again - "poppage". What is "poppage"?

boneheadandrube 02-25-2018 05:12 PM

#1) Cobby
#2) Wags
#3) WaJo
#4) 80%+ of the usernames on the board (including mine)

barrysloate 02-25-2018 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred (Post 1751612)
There it is again - "poppage". What is "poppage"?

I think it has to do with the population of cards graded, as in pop report. I'm guessing.

cardinalcollector 02-25-2018 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred (Post 1751612)
There it is again - "poppage". What is "poppage"?

It has to do with population reports on a certain card or grade Fred.

vintagetoppsguy 02-25-2018 05:21 PM

I thought poppage is when your grades pop - become available online.

rainier2004 02-25-2018 05:22 PM

Poppage = A TPG just posted the grade(s) on the card that were submitted and generally you don't have the cards back in hand yet. Your cards "popped" in the TPG.

TPGs annoy me as well...all of them.

rainier2004 02-25-2018 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orly57 (Post 1751604)
nice card

glws.

chalupacollects 02-25-2018 05:34 PM

Another annoyance - "I inherited this collection from my uncle." Still wonder why his own kids didn't get them...

clydepepper 02-25-2018 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snapolit1 (Post 1751408)
That's certainly 1 of 1. And "highest graded" with "great investment potential".



Speaking of 1/1 - though it has been the topic of another thread...

one-of-one or 1/1 or 1 of 1

when used to describe, for example a card serial numbered #67/250

just because there is not another 67th copy out of the 250 printed.


Also, 'Game-Used'...

jerrys 02-25-2018 05:42 PM

Cobbie

T-205

CMIZ5290 02-25-2018 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerrys (Post 1751637)
Cobbie

T-205

I can't believe a thread like this has extended this long. Peter's first post had razor sharp corners....

Pat R 02-25-2018 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290 (Post 1751639)
I can't believe a thread like this has extended this long. Peter's first post had razor sharp corners....

I think you need to read his first post again.

CMIZ5290 02-25-2018 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat R (Post 1751642)
I think you need to read his first post again.

?

HRBAKER 02-25-2018 06:23 PM

"poppage"
"top of the pops"

CMIZ5290 02-25-2018 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat R (Post 1751642)
I think you need to read his first post again.

cute,,,

Rookiemonster 02-25-2018 06:43 PM

Flip

Diamond cut

Rainbow

Corrected error ( it’s just a regular card at this point)

Psa 10

White whale

I pretty much hate everything except the cards haha

tedzan 02-25-2018 07:04 PM

1949 LEAF set
 
Hey guys....and, PSA and SGC....listen here.

This set was NOT issued in "1948"

Nor is it a "1948-1949" set (it's not a Basket Ball set)....it's a BASEBALL set !

This set was issued strictly in 1949


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...abeRuth50x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...afPaige25x.jpg
...........http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...abeRuth25b.jpg................http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...fPaige25xb.jpg
.................................................. .....^............................................ .................................................. ^



__________________________________________________ _________________________________________
I'm still searching for these 3 cards to complete my AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 sub-set (74 subjects)

CAMNITZ (hands over head)....DOYLE (portrait)....McGRAW (portrait-cap)

Any help finding these 3 cards will be greatly appreciated....Thanks guys.


TED Z

T206 Reference
.

Bcwcardz 02-25-2018 10:06 PM

The one that stands out is " sick " with " sweet " coming a close second.

Sent from my SM-T350 using Tapatalk

ValKehl 02-25-2018 11:05 PM

"Highest graded exemplar on the planet"

pokerplyr80 02-25-2018 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buymycards (Post 1751323)
Describing a lot as "huge", when there are 12 cards in the lot.

Describing a card as "has huge boarders". C'mon people, it is "borders".

"Listening to offers". Put a price on the damn thing.

Huge borders would be important to me as a buyer, especially on something like a high end t206 card. It means it's at least very likely the card hasn't been trimmed.

pokerplyr80 02-25-2018 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rainier2004 (Post 1751624)
Poppage = A TPG just posted the grade(s) on the card that were submitted and generally you don't have the cards back in hand yet. Your cards "popped" in the TPG.

TPGs annoy me as well...all of them.

I believe this term is used when you pop a higher grade than expected, or get a card to bump. I don't spend much time on CU though.

doug.goodman 02-26-2018 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rainier2004 (Post 1751208)
52T Mantle rookie...

For me, that's the "holy grail" of annoying terms...

7nohitter 02-26-2018 05:05 AM

"Advanced Collector"

Shut up. Just shut up. I find this one to be extremely pompous and a cry for attention.

I know others have mentioned it, sorry for the repetition, but this one irks me to no end.

h2oya311 02-26-2018 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80 (Post 1751747)
Huge boarders would be important to me as a buyer, especially on something like a high end t206 card. It means it's at least very likely the card hasn't been trimmed.

Jesse, the point of the post is that the word is “borders”, not “boarders”.

1952boyntoncollector 02-26-2018 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orly57 (Post 1751604)
Nice card. Good luck with the sale.

Thanks. and the Eagles Defense did not win the superbowl :)

pokerplyr80 02-26-2018 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h2oya311 (Post 1751762)
Jesse, the point of the post is that the word is “borders”, not “boarders”.

Ahh i see, not sure why I typed boarders in my reply but yes that makes sense. Although I'm not sure I would consider common spelling or grammatical errors relevant in a discussion of annoying hobby terms.

savedfrommyspokes 02-26-2018 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nsaddict (Post 1751589)
ex +/- condition-wise ??

This is my most annoying thing in the hobby....this just means that it (lot, single, etc) is really in VG shape, likely due to some creasing. I have lost count on the number of "EX" lots that arrived with creased up cards. Half the regular pre-70 vintage lot sellers on ebay routinely offer their EX +/- cards, which through experience means VG.

My other favorite is: "overall an EX lot, I saw no creasing, but I may have missed a few"....this just means that at least half the lot has some sort of creasing and overall the lot is in Vg to VG-EX shape.

"Just a few less than EX" actual quote from the listing of a 150 card lot that arrived Saturday...this is indeed translated to it's actual meaning of "half the cards are VG due to creasing and the other half are actually in EX shape."

EX cards are supposed to be CREASE-FREE! There is NO subjectivity in creasing, a card either has a crease OR it does. If it does have a crease, it is not supposed to be in EX shape.

celoknob 02-26-2018 07:01 AM

For some reason this is very frequent: If you have multiple T206 cards you have "T206s" not "T206's".

paul-k 02-26-2018 07:22 AM

"poppage" gets me every time. what kind of word is that??

WillBBC 02-26-2018 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buythatcard (Post 1751331)
As a seller, here is one that I hear too often which I hate. Five minutes after buyer wins an auction: "Can you please cancel transaction, I already have that card".

That or, 'oh sorry I hit your Buy-It-Now price before reading the description, please cancel.

There is no faster way to reach my blocked buyers list.

packs 02-26-2018 07:50 AM

"Being sold as is" and "listening to offers"

clydepepper 02-26-2018 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 1751681)
Hey guys....and, PSA and SGC....listen here.

This set was NOT issued in "1948"

Nor is it a "1948-1949" set (it's not a Basket Ball set)....it's a BASEBALL set !

This set was issued strictly in 1949


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...abeRuth50x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...afPaige25x.jpg
...........http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...abeRuth25b.jpg................http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...fPaige25xb.jpg
.................................................. .....^............................................ .................................................. ^



__________________________________________________ _________________________________________
I'm still searching for these 3 cards to complete my AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 sub-set (74 subjects)

CAMNITZ (hands over head)....DOYLE (portrait)....McGRAW (portrait-cap)

Any help finding these 3 cards will be greatly appreciated....Thanks guys.


TED Z

T206 Reference
.




I believe their error may have been that they thought a '1948' copyright date meant it was issued that year...and this common misconception is further perpetuated by third-party graders.

All that being said, I am certain you are correct and I would never consider dis-agreeing with you. ;)

RedsFan1941 02-26-2018 08:31 AM

“absolutely final price.”

timn1 02-26-2018 08:39 AM

Has no one mentioned?
 
Tuff

packs 02-26-2018 08:46 AM

I have X into it

Listening to offers over X

Peter_Spaeth 02-26-2018 08:51 AM

Not sure it's come up yet -- "the bay" for ebay. HATE that.

DerekD 02-26-2018 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rainier2004 (Post 1751208)
52T Mantle rookie...


This!!

Peter_Spaeth 02-26-2018 09:00 AM

A little off my own topic, but I love the guys who access the internet to tell you they can't pay you yet because they are out of town/country and will take care of it when they get home.

Peter_Spaeth 02-26-2018 09:01 AM

A cousin of "poppage" -- "sub." As in, "sub popped."

Then of course there is "rip" as a noun, as in "nice rip" -- referring typically to the opening of some 80s packs/boxes and pulling HOFers.

bnorth 02-26-2018 09:05 AM

Not a hobby term but "Helmar" just makes me cringe. I like modern fantasy cards as much as anybody but for BLEEP sake don't use a real vintage companys name to make you modern reproduction stuff.

packs 02-26-2018 09:13 AM

I love the subtle threats you run into: "last drop before eBay" and "if no takers it heads to auction". Oh no!

timn1 02-26-2018 09:35 AM

Well at least
 
he did name his whole company (beer, chips) after Helmar, not just the cards.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 1751836)
Not a hobby term but "Helmar" just makes me cringe. I like modern fantasy cards as much as anybody but for BLEEP sake don't use a real vintage companys name to make you modern reproduction stuff.


Exhibitman 02-26-2018 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drcy (Post 1751564)
As a photo person, Type 1 instead of original is about the most stupid thing. It's comparable to changing "The sky is blue" to "The sky is color code #356t" just so as to confuse everyone.

Completely agree. It is just sellers trying to use technical jargon to put a spin on their items.

Sophiedog 02-26-2018 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1751830)
A little off my own topic, but I love the guys who access the internet to tell you they can't pay you yet because they are out of town/country and will take care of it when they get home.

LOL. Exactly. That's happened to me a few times.

tazdmb 02-26-2018 10:25 AM

From an autograph perspective-"Authenticated"

Huysmans 02-26-2018 11:09 AM

Can we add slang within general sports terms as well...

I can't stand GOAT. There are only a small handful of players - literally just a couple per sport - that can be considered the 'Greatest of All Time'...

Yet, all it seems to take these days is some basketball player not tripping over his shadow or a quarterback that doesn't constantly throw interceptions, and people are all over social media GOAT this and GOAT that... it's beyond cringe-worthy.

bobbyw8469 02-26-2018 11:16 AM

No hobby term offends me. Just like the English language, everyone has their own way of talking.

About the only thing I sometimes get perturbed at is auction descriptions. On one end, you got Bill Goodwin, who writes a 500 word essay on a particular ballplayer. On the other end, you have Memory Lane, with their one word quips "BLAZER", "GET IT!", "SHARP SPLINTER (in regards to a Ted Williams card). Seems like we could find a happy medium between the two.

And PWCC with their "worthy of consderation" line...when they are auctioning 4 of the exact same Nolan Ryan PSA 9 cards at the exact same time....It bothers me when I am consigning one of those 9's and see 3 more of the exact same grade right along side it. Doesn't make mine feel so special (and of course, it winds up lagging behind the other 3, sometimes to the tune of hundreds of dollars).

A2000 02-26-2018 11:18 AM

"Extant"

1952boyntoncollector 02-26-2018 11:49 AM

I am buying the card for my personal collection, am no going to resell it...

Aquarian Sports Cards 02-26-2018 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1751884)
It bothers me when I am consigning one of those 9's and see 3 more of the exact same grade right along side it. Doesn't make mine feel so special (and of course, it winds up lagging behind the other 3, sometimes to the tune of hundreds of dollars).

I learned the hard way with PWCC that honest consignors don't do as well as consignors who are, let's say ethically more flexible. Still do OK mind you, but not setting records that others are on the same items.

insidethewrapper 02-26-2018 12:04 PM

"I found the only card that my grandpa ever saved in the attic and it's a T206 Honus Wagner "

Fred 02-26-2018 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1751823)
Not sure it's come up yet -- "the bay" for ebay. HATE that.

Is fleabay ok for you? That's how a lot of us look at "the bay".

barrysloate 02-26-2018 12:26 PM

And of course there is "looking to find a good home for these", as if there is such a thing as a bad home. Does anybody physically or mentally abuse his cards?

Eric72 02-26-2018 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huysmans (Post 1751881)
Can we add slang within general sports terms as well...

I can't stand GOAT. There are only a small handful of players - literally just a couple per sport - that can be considered the 'Greatest of All Time'...

Yet, all it seems to take these days is some basketball player not tripping over his shadow or a quarterback that doesn't constantly throw interceptions, and people are all over social media GOAT this and GOAT that... it's beyond cringe-worthy.

The use of this term bothers me, as well. I remember when being called a “goat” in sports was a bad thing. For those who may not remember, “goat” was the opposite of “hero.”

Hit a home run to win the game in the bottom of the ninth, and the media will be singing your praises. Then, in the very next game, strike out in the bottom of the ninth to end the game...the media would have said that you’ve, “gone from hero to goat.”

Words change. I get that. Still, this reminds me of a time when it suddenly became popular to call girls, “phat” - and have it be a compliment.


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