sfmays24, in my post to you I said it was a "set" of cards that was said to have been delivered to you, not a high value graded card or two. Are you saying that no one has ever sent you a $500 set of cards (approx value) for you to approve first and send payment later if you liked it?

Hi Bob- yes, excited about the Yankees, but not so excited about this thread. I don't understand why this lengthy and complicated issue has to be aired in public like this. Can't the parties involved work it out themselves?

nam812,

Based on the info I read about in all the threads over the past few weeks, I concluded that you were talking about the issue I addressed in my last reply to you... I have nothing more to add and await the proof you or someone else has that shows such delivery of items/set.

If you are asking if there is another set/deal, then the answer is no.

Mike

So you never had a deal in the works for a 1969 Topps 4 in 1 football set to be sent to you for you to look over and then possibly purchase if you approved of the set?

I agree Barry, it should have been handled behind closed doors via email.

I'm hoping my SF Giants somehow get there.

Good luck with your Yankees.

Bob.

I have a baseball signed both by Calvin Cooledge and Mother Teressa. The ink seems the same although I guess it could have been signed at two seperate times. What do you guys think?

Mike
 

Thats a nice ball. If you sell it to Mike be sure and hand deliver it.

Kirk

Mike--Thanks for the tip. I have one for you--proper English is "if you sell", not "if you sale".

To answer Bill Hedin's question
 

The 1973 Clemente is not possible to have been signed. I opened packs from my grocery store in 1973; and those cards were not even in the store until early March.

Rich

This is rather simple now.

Three people have replied to this thread saying they did not receive the promised items from Mike or the items they sent "disappeared" despite proof that they were delivered.

Mike has admitted to a 4th. The deal with Bobafett.

The $500 set in question was also delivered to Mike's house even though he claims it wasn't. I was only informed of this deal through PM's on the CU board by a very well respected forum user and collector.

Mike's explanation is just another lie that he contiues to try and make people here believe.

That makes at least 4 packages that were delivered to Mike with proof of delivery and he claims he didn't receive. Plus one package that he kept the $25 and ran.

In 9 years of selling on eBay, I have only had 1 item that truly was lost in the mail. Just these that were proven here is 5 to or from Mike's house in 1 year.

Yet, still no explanation as to how this could be possible.

Bill
 

Very well summarized!

There is only 1 that I can verify via USPS DC #, this is not a new issue at all. It is the same one brought up over and over again by the same unhappy person who seems to have nothing better to do than cause trouble... I'm the only one who lost out on this deal and after nearly a year don't consider it a issue any longer.

The other two possible issues have been discussed here and I am awaiting the proof that shows I receive them (they were never received).

Mike

Bob,

Go back and re-read the whole thread. Leon was very cautious about what he said. He made no accusations. He offered to let anyone who wanted come on the board and explain. You did that just fine. Your good reputation is intact. Hell, being a friend of Barry's will do that for you on this board.

In addition Leon apologized in two different threads (#5 and #14), if it was two different people.

The person in question was in the middle of a couple of deals involving board members. There was a need to get that info out, and Leon did it in a timely manner. When he was wrong on one point, he apologized, immediately.

I'd say, let it go.

This thread is a joke and a waste of time and should be locked (please). I do not know any of the parties involved so I have no axe to grind one way or another...but it seems that certain people have joined this forum specifically to carry on a beef from another website.

Jeff

WOW!! All the eveidence is in this thread along with the 1 you admitted to. Why are you still denying it?

sfmays24 you did not respond to my comment so I will repeat it for you:

So you never had a deal in the works for a 1969 Topps 4 in 1 football set to be sent to you for you to look over and then possibly purchase if you approved of the set?

"...but it seems that certain people have joined this forum specifically to carry on a beef from another website"

You are of course correct and I apologize to all for this mess. I have followed Leon's suggestion to post and try to address any issues.

The same people will continue to throw stones for their own amusement, as they did in 2 previous PSA Forum threads (both locked now).

Mike

nam812,

I believe we are talking about the same issue, just the value ($200-$300 price offered to me some 4-5 years ago) and that they were baseball cards (not football).

Mike

So what happened to that complete set of baseball cards that was sent to you before payment for your approval?

nam812,

As I have already mentioned, I never received the additional scans (some 15-20 total), nor any cards. Now that this is a topic, I would very much like the proof that shows I received these scans or cards.

Mike

I sent a message to the CU forum user that has more information regarding the missing set. I sent him a link to this thread and asked that he explain the truth ONCE AGAIN that Mike is ignoring and trying to spin the truth.

Your response on another thread about 2 weeks ago:

This was supposedly a year ago but you happen to remember that you were mowing the yard at the specific time that the cards were supposedly delivered a year earlier?

BTW, once again there ARE 3 PEOPLE that have responded to this thread that say the about statement is a lie after you failed to receive cards from them or them from you. None of the 3 people that responded are even the 1 you were referring to in the above statement.

So nice to see the lurkers posting more frequently.

Several years back after a discussion about the Topps 1969 4 in 1 stickers on CU I got a pm from Mike asking if I had an extra Mays. I did, but told him that it was part of a extra set I had and did not want to sell just the Mays. He expressed some interest in the set but wanted to see scans. I do not scan worth a darn.

I had successfully bought a high dollar item from Mike previously ( involving 1967 Topps Punch Outs), so I felt ok sending him the set for his review with the understanding he would pay a price, as I recall $ 250 ( because some stickers had loose backing ), or send them back. He says he never recieved them. Maybe he didn't. I let it go. Worse things happen in life. But, when this topic, "sent but not recieved", popped up on CU recently, I just posted that I had already learned my lesson here.

And, no, I can no longer "prove" anything. Nor do I care anymore. The end.

I post as bishop on CU. I post here, but in the post war pre 80 section

Why is it...?
 

Why is it that a couple of times each year, this board gets invaded by escapees from the CU Forum? Invariably these guys are in a "huge" fight over something, have been banned or locked out of that board, and elect to continue it over here. It seems their issue is always over $25-$50, usually in shiny new cards.

Do these guys think we are incompetent? We have many posters on Net 54 who are perfectly capable of mucking up our own board! We don't need help from immigrants from other boards! There are many of us who can start a fight and continue one! We can play offense or defense! We already know the meaning of the word "disfunctional!"


What can we do to take our board back?


(Short of that, what can we do to discuss cards again?)

What's the record for sub-off-topic topics within one off-topic thread? This has to be approaching record status here.

I don't post often at all as is apparent by my post count and I lurk a lot. I've picked up a few cards on the B/S/T and sold some T206's a couple of years back. I love to read and learn on these boards and as a result, I've been able to take that information and help out other people on a couple of other boards I go onto once in awhile. I have read this thread and by the end wanted to pull my hair out as it got to the point that it just made no sense anymore. Quite a few people have already stated now that this needs to go private so there really is no need to have another person come to join this mess.

Anyway, that's a lurkers two cents so take it for what you will.

I agree with Jim, and Jeff earlier: this argument does not belong on the vintage board, and should be moved to the post war section or deep sixed. There are participants on this thread who are virtually new here, and shouldn't be allowed to conduct this kind of nonsense.

This thread should be locked.

I understand what you are saying but we were warning the fellow collectors here about this guy in question.I for one don't want to see anyone get ripped off.I was kind of hoping you guys would send Marshall our way as payback.I thought he was a riot but no such luck.
Mike

Perfectly understandable, but Leon warned people in post #1. By post #10 or so, we, pretty much, knew there were concerns. The last 100 posts (including mine) are all off topic or overkill.

This is a VINTAGE BASEBALL CARD BOARD. Please point me to concerns which are about that subject.


Edited to add:
Will you take Marshall and Bruce?

Now THAT right there is funny!

Heh, For sure, there's a moral to that story somewhere.


On a related topic, I can't for the life of me remember how to pronounce Lajoie

I used to go with - "Lah-joy", but Rob D insists it is - "Lah-zo-way." I defer to him on this matter.


Thanks Steve! :D

Interestingly enough I adistant relative of Lajoie,My family now spells it Lajoy.

My last response.

Found this in one of the PM's on another forum regarding Mike and "the boys".


The cards were never delivered but they are no longer on his....excuse me....their want list.

Rich---
Thanks for the info on Clemente's 73 card!

Rich,

In the spring of 1973, I was a senior in high school and turned 18, which was legal drinking age back then. I was NOT buying baseball cards in any grocery stores in the Elmira NY area!

Sure glad you remember that year clearly!

:D

Hi Anthony,
LOL, great youtube post! By the way, I sent you a money order today for our 2nd deal!
Thanks, my friend,
Bill Hedin

Did somebody call me?

T218 Champions set?
 

Hi,
nam, is that you that has the truly gorgeous 218 registered set?
I love those cards and was just wanting to say congratulations on a suberb set, if that's you!
All my best,
Bill Hedin

Nick those sound like fighting words.

Yes Bill that is me, and thank you very much for your kind words.

Regards, Nick

well
 

It's my fault this thread started at all. The reason I started it was obvious. There was someone on our BST that seemed to have some issues, real or not, following him. I feel it is my/the moderators responsibility for alerting other Net54baseball.com members. I mistakenly thought it was someone else with a very close USER ID to the one in question. That was my mistake and for that I am sorry and apologize. As for this thread.....I am not sorry I started it as it needed to be talked about since there were things on our BST that it pertained to ie...the people involved. Regards

Why aren't post-war discussions sent over to the post-war side? That's what we have it for, so that we can send these train wrecks over where noone will look at them.:)

In March of 1973 a new shipment of blotter had just arrived on campus. I thought I saw a Roberto Clemente signature on the side of the sheet of 100 hits but then again maybe it was floating over the sheet, or maybe it was on the giant caterpillar that was crawling over the overpass that I was driving under. Or wait, maybe that was 1974.

I was only in 8th grade but I thought I saw a Clemente signature after sniffing a freshly printed pop quiz straight off of the mimeograph machine.

I think it was at the end of February in 2007
 

We had a 400 post thead come out of no where and that was only a few short months after a NY hobby dinner thread that was at the end of 2006.

This thread; NOTHING; compared to those thread in twists and turns/

And; advanced autograph collectors do pay attention to what cards are "possible" to have signed and what cards are "impossible" to have signed.

And to keep this on a pre-WW2 basis; I'd wager that having a Doc Powers signed T-206 card would be nearly impossible

Rich

Speaking of Doc
 

I'm still looking for this PC. email jacklitsch@comcast.net

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g5...rsPostcard.jpg

In the summer of 74 I was 4 years old. The sun was going down, my babysitters were sitting on a bench at a park when a green car drove up with a couple losers who started talking to them. They asked me if I wanted a piece of candy and gave me a sugar cube. I woke up and saw bugs crawling everywhere and completely freaked out screaming all night trying to get the bugs off me while my mom kept asking what was wrong. To this day I have a bug phobia.

+1

While the thread has gone way long I do agree that it needed to be posted because one of the parties is on this BST and I do think the main board is the right place to have it.

awesome 4/1 exibits!
 

Hi Scott,
Is that your ebay store with the stunning 4/1 exibit cards and single player high end graded one as well?
If so, on having these hard to find and very attractive cards.
I look forward to buying some 4/1 cards from you in the future.
Regards,
Bill
bh3443@aol.com

Steve I love that Doc Powers postcard scan
 

If it were about 100 years later; some one would have created a "signed" version of that complete with "cut signature"

Rich

Rogers Hornsby
 

In response to the question earlier in this thread about Rogers Hornsby's role with the Mets in the early 1960s, former Mets pitcher Jay Hook is a friend of mine. A couple of weeks ago when we were talking about the early Mets teams, he told me Hornsby was a "hitting advisor" for the team. he may also have been doing some scouting. So it's entirely possible for Hornsby to have signed the 1961 Topps card.

I have seen a 1961 Golden Press card signed by Hornsby so it is probable that he signed a 1961 Topps also.
Mike

Leon........please be sure any of these CU immigrants are not going to be eligible under the new Obama health plan. We cannot afford to cover our own Net54 people, much less these immigrants. Fire up the death panels.....

Tom - I sent you a Private Message either yesterday or the day before - was it received?

If I remember the story correctly, the Mets first hired Hornsby as a scout when they were preparing for the expansion draft. He had a reputation of not being too fond of "modern" ballplayers. He spent the entire 1961 season scouting every major league team. The Mets knew that you could never be sure who a team wouldn't protect in the draft and they wanted a report on everyone.

When his season end reports were filed, he blasted nearly every player as not having the skills necessary to play big league ball. He did file one, marginally favorable report though. The comment made about one player was simply, "Looks like a major league ballplayer."


That player: Mickey Mantle. (You have to admit, he had had a pretty good year in 1961.)

Tom,


YOU LIE!!!

Leon,

Would you please edit my name and net54 handle out of your initial post on this thread?

This will help close my involvement in this.

Thanks,
Bob.

Haha nicely done.

Leon, I do think the thread title should be changed to sfmays24 (the person in question) and not Mays -24 (Bob who is not involved).

Wow. Beatles Rock Band comes out and I miss so much.

Probably doesn't matter at this point, but I did complete a deal with Mike Ortega about a month ago and there were absolutely no problems with the deal. The cards were shipped promptly. They were packaged in a fine manner. And honestly I thought I got great a great selection of cards for they meager price I paid. I had no problems with him and we was very cordial throughout all of our emails.

Just my vote of confidence for Mike.

Who's Leon?
 

That edit is half ass. Bob's name is still in the post. :(

I figured everyone here would have bought Guitar Hero 5 instead so they can play the new "Bring the Noise" remix. :D Also please don't send any train wrecks over to the postwar side. It's actually peaceful over there.

News Break!
 

This just in----

Kanye West has interrupted Patrick Swayze's funeral to state Michael Jackson's was better!

I have never once visited the CU site and I don't think I ever will.

I think I've looked at it 2 or 3 times and nobody's missing much.

I've checked it out and if the card isn't shiny or older than 5 months, very few posters have any idea what they are.

Wow, the innocent guy asks for his name to be edited out of the title and gets banned.

I think you have to use the word "poppage" a lot if you frequent there.

I'm willing to bet that there's more to that story than your brief summary.

There didn't have to be. The guy, understandably aggravated, asked more than once.

I have resigned myself to lurker status as a result of a few. That would also mean that I will spend no more money in b/s/t until this school yard crap is done.

Rawn.

OK, I give up
 

the guy didn't seriously get banned, did he? I admit some of these posts the past couple days are almost surreal to me--their apparent intolerance of others baffling and heavy-handed. Tell me I'm missing something.

Maybe lurking is looking better and better.

Banned
 

Based on just the member requesting to have his name removed does seem harsh, but you don't know if he said something else in a pm or email to Leon that isn't posted. I'm sure that he wasn't banned based solely on that request.

r/
Frank

I swear the other day when I was on there, their actually was a guy who started a post asking for the mailing address of former player & Yankees/Royals manager Dick Howser (who has been deceased for over 20 years)

Dick Howser died? Damn, next thing you'll tell me is that Elvis is dead. That will really ruin my day.

Yeah OK, but is he stilling signing?