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Originally Posted by Zone91 (Post 1132099)

How much was he asking for the one graded authentic...does anyone know?

Joe do you still have it for sale could you share a picture of the front and back here?

I am also going to be in the market for one in a little while (next few months or sooner). Of course MattyC asked 1st so I will respect if he makes the buy before I do...not here to cause trouble with other members...I believe in 1st come 1st served and he was ahead of me.

Post # 8

I know how much Joe T asked for the card but i will let him give his price here on the board if the card is still avalaible.
The AUTH card have a verry beautifull eyes appeal in my memories

g_vezina_c55

Thanks I do not mind a authentic card at all if it looks good then that is more than fine by me.

Post # 9

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Originally Posted by Vintageclout (Post 1131570)

Hi Leon, its Joe T. and while I agree there may be some 150 to 200 Ruth rookie cards in private collections (give or take), the demand you mentioned will continue to exponentially grow far beyond the supply, whatever that number may be. Until the last several years, the true rookie card of baseball's greatest player ever has always been significantly undervalued, and it was only a matter of time before collectors began paying premium prices for the Babe's inaugural major league baseball card. How many examples are truly out there? 150, 200, 300...whatever. It doesn't really matter because thousands of collectors may eventually seek this card as it continues to gather momentum. Supply vs. demand is the ultimate driver of rising price tags and while not rare, there simply aren't enough Ruth rookie cards to satisfy the collecting community. Just my thoughts.

Best Regards,
Joe

Hi Joe
You remind me of when I introduced myself to Scott Brockelman for the first 10 yrs I knew him. He used to laugh and say "yeah, I know who you are :)" ......It is a polite habit to have.

At any rate I absolutely agree with you. I just have a small pet peeve when folks quote numbers of copies when there are usually more than that. Many times I see the number of "approximately 50" when referring to T206 Wagners. Most in the hobby think the number is closer to 100, as do I. Regardless if it is 50 or 100....or 150 Wagners, the demand is off the charts. Same thing for a '52 Mantle. I bet there are thousands of them....but there are millions of folks that want one. Same with the Ruth rookie. Even if there are 300, the demand is off the charts and ramping up all of the time. No worries on any of these cards devaluing. I don't think it will happen in our lifetimes unless there is some extraordinary economic or world tragedy. Then it probably wouldn't matter anyway. Now, if there is a sudden spike in type card collecting then I will be happier. Otherwise I will continue to have some rare cards that don't hold a candle to many other more common ones, in value. (which is ok by me as I love what I collect)

Leon

Well said Leon!!

Post # 10

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Originally Posted by g_vezina_c55 (Post 1132129)

I know how much Joe T asked for the card but i will let him give his price here on the board if the card is still avalaible.
The AUTH card have a verry beautifull eyes appeal in my memories

Sorry Nelson.......sold it last week! The Ruth rookie card is absolutely on fire!!!!

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1132137)

Leon...LOL!!!! P.S. - I can promise you that 99% of the hobby's vintage card collections have to bow to your extraordinary card gathering!!!

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Originally Posted by chaddurbin (Post 1132079)

joe t. from nyc is obviously biased here because i KNOW he has 5-6 ruth rookies :cool: bought from before this card exploded the last 2 years.

to me it depends on whether the jordan bgs 9.5 would cross to a psa 10, but i probably still wouldn't do it. you can sell all those cards and just wait a ruth out (maybe even a nice 1.5 or 2). i'll put you in touch with a guy. imo a 1 is 15-20k which i still think is overpriced but that's the current price i guess.

Quan...LOL! First & foremost Quan, I only own ONE Ruth rookie. I had two but sold the higher graded one last year. Secondly, your $15 to $20K range for a decent looking "1" is WAY OFF BASE. Once again, last year SCP sold a creased blank back PSA 1 fro $31K, Goodwin sold an "Authentic" that was missing serious card stock for $10K, and a Famous & Barr SGC 10 with TWO pinholes & a horizontal crease through the center of the card is approaching $35K in REA (with that same card previously selling for $40K to $45K in prior auctions!).

If you can get decent looking "1's" to "1.5's" for $15K to $20K I will buy hoards of them tomorrow!

There's a real nice Ruth m101-4 Sporting News PSA 1 in the upcoming Legendary auction. Some paper loss and discoloration on the back explains the grade, but a beautiful card nonetheless.
http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Ite...a-copy_lg.jpeg
http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Ite...b-copy_lg.jpeg

That ones a beauty todd...back damage doesnt bother me at all...30-40k!!!

This ruth is. A beauty

Great-- so much for my new target flying under the radar. A PM would have sufficed ;)
Guess the dream will be deferred for a bit longer.

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Originally Posted by Vintageclout (Post 1132269)

If you can get decent looking "1's" to "1.5's" for $15K to $20K I will buy hoards of them tomorrow!

i will defer to joe t. here then as i know he keeps track of this particular card. make me wish i'd held on to my 1.5. strange how 4-5 years ago the e90-1 jax and the M ruth was the same value...since then one has taken a nose dive while the other has 4x.

edit: that 1 is a beauty, i would give up all the gold for that one. mattyc got ur pm, i will contact the member that i sold my 1.5 to...see if he wants to 3x his money real fast :).

I think the Ruth card is pretty bland and it depicts him as a member of the Red Sox. Don't forget that the 1986-87 Fleer Michael Jordan card has mega potential too. It could be argued that he has more of a global appeal than Ruth. I would consign the cards, buy the Ruth outright and have some more $$$ to spend.

Can you counter offer at this juncture? I think I would either pull the Koufax or see if the guy will kick in a couple of cards with the Ruth.

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Originally Posted by Orioles1954 (Post 1132296)

Don't forget that the 1986-87 Fleer Michael Jordan card has mega potential too.

I dunno. I think at some point the Jordan Fleer card is going to collapse (or at least decline) in value because of how many of them are out there. PSA alone is showing over 13,000 on the population report and 160 PSA "10" cards. There are also undoubtedly lots of Fleer Jordan cards that have yet to be graded, considering it is only a 25-year-old card.

any decision on your trade?

Trade value is about even with what you are giving up
for the ruth rookie. The question is is it more fun to own all your cards or to own just one card the ruth rookie?

Are you leaning towards making the trade or not?

I'm curious to see if he pulled the trigger.

Seeing and considering all the different viewpoints has been great. I've developed a plan accordingly, and will report back soon to share how it went.

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Originally Posted by MattyC (Post 1133471)

Seeing and considering all the different viewpoints has been great. I've developed a plan accordingly, and will report back soon to share how it went.

Yes, you will. See to it.