So here's a question, an open one for anyone. But probably some basic thing I'm missing, not being all that into Yankees tickets, or for that matter most tickets (I'll pick them up if they're old and cheap, or newer and really cheap, but I don't actively look for them)

I get that writing can be wrong, or right. And that if someone is doing it years later they may not remember things all that well.

But for the Clean sweep one for example, whoever did the writing was maybe 8 years off which seems like a stretch.

Checking attendance and if there was some special event seems to show nothing special besides opening day.
So if it was done after the fact to mislead... Why try to change a 39 to 47 with writing? I'd think the prewar one would be worth more?

That to me is a bit of a puzzle.

simple answer their wrong see the facts I stated
 

simple answer their wrong see the facts I stated
also in 1947 there were no such thing as a Stadium ticket it would have been grandstand , plus the admission price was $1.25 not $1.10

The question as I understand it was " why would someone write the wrong date on a ticket ?"
The reasons are many but most happen when a date is added some time after the event. For this ticket they might have seen The Yankees open the season on April 15th and then go and write same date in their ticket not realizing that opening day is not the same date every year. Not every incorrect date is intentional programs like tickets sometimes have incorrect dates written on them so that is why they need to be evaluated on the facts printed on the ticket or stub or program.
Shoeless says he believes writing on tickets above what is printed on them ( he says that but he has a ticket on Ebay that says is from 1950 and is worth $50. But he knows the guide says it is a 1949 stub and is from the day Ruth's monument was dedicated. So instead of selling it for $50 he puts it up for auction where he knows "top ticket collectors" will recognize it and now bids are well above $50 ) for the most part the market gets these things right.

Why would I put a "Buy It Now" on one Ticket and auction the rest? C'mon.

If I put a "Buy It Now" on any of them it would be the 1917 World Series deciding Game 6 Ticket (which is sitting at a steal at $510 on Ebay with only 3 days until the auction ends)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/18315307112...84.m1555.l2649

You arn't going to find that one for under $1200 at a major auction house as noted in my Ebay auction.


Last........

English Lesson for David (I love to help the mentally challenged, don't ever let it be said I do not):

"They're - There - Their" are pronounced the same,
but spelled differently according to usage:

"There" refers to a place.
Examples: There is a library in the first building. It is over there.
Hint: If you can use the word "here," you have it right!

"They're" is a contraction of "they are"
Example: They're not in this building.
Hint: "They" is a pronoun and "are" is the verb.
If you can substitute "We are" you have it right!

"Their" is the posessive pronoun.
Example: Their library is located on the next street.
Hint: If you can substitute "our" you have it right!

Hate to bring up an old topic, but....
 

saw this on Ebay tonight.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-New-York-...4AAOSwjkxgAP0G

Now according to the Yankees Ticket Dating Guide this H Ticket should be for 1940

https://keymancollectibles.com/ticke...atingguide.htm

But you can see the attached note has 1943, and if you pull up game 60 from 1943 the Ticket matches the Sept 5, 1943 game info, so these are 1943 tix, not 1940:

https://keymancollectibles.com/ticke...meschedule.htm

https://www.baseball-reference.com/t...e-scores.shtml

Thus I'm gonna stand by saying that Guide has quite a few errors.

more proof the "Guide" is botched:

Explain this Shakir.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/35361766033...p2047675.l2557

This stub "attached" to the scrapbook paper WITH the Box score and game recap, says 1937.

Your "guide"

https://keymancollectibles.com/ticke...atingguide.htm

says this MUST be 1936 in that the NYC only appeared one year on tickets per your guide, 1936.

So how could a stub with articles attached from a scrapbook show its from 1937.

GUIDE IS BOTCHED FOLKS

This thread was quite a read. I enjoyed it. A good 15 round heavyweight fight of sorts.

"Down goes Shakir, down goes Shakir, down goes Shakir!!!!!!"

On that most recent one, the NYC removed is described as being on the back.

Inconsequential.

These are blank back stubs.

These type stubs are not shown (should have been included, but not there, why, ask the Guide Master) on the Keyman Guide Site, they show Bleacher, Grandstand, & Stadium, but the info (The Printing Company) and premise should follow to any of the stubs.

These stubs had all the info on the front and the Guide saying the "NYC" was removed on the 1937 stubs (regardless of front or back) is just plain wrong as you can see from my screenshot of the 1937 one attached to a scrapbook paper with 1937 game info.

David argument of info being written wrong on stubs (which granted can happen and did from time to time) can NOT be disputed here. Nothing is written, it's the newspaper showing the date.

I have zero doubts the guide while correct on some years is also very wrong on some years, David knows this as well and has admitted such in this thread. Problem is there are so many tickets slabbed wrong by PSA, it's a giant mess, but rather then fix people just take whatever PSA puts on the label to be correct, and boy it is not in regards to undated Yankees stubs.

It’s really cool that the one dude created this resource. I have used it. But if there are aspects of it that are wrong, shouldn’t anyone pointing out problems with it just be met with a huge thank you, I’ll look into it kind of response? And if you look into it and agree, change it. And if you ultimately don’t agree, have a dialog. Maybe you reach consensus, maybe you dont. Seems hard to believe this screaming match has gone on literally for years.

There are SO MANY tickets of many sorts that are slabbed incorrect by PSA. It's a complete schlimazel. Why anyone wants to slab a ticket and respected their assessment and grading of them is beyond me. It's a complete scam and the people who are doing this for them are not the experts by any stretch. It's a complete joke.

You ain't kidding!

Here is one that was at Mile High Auctions:

https://www.milehighcardco.com/1934_...-LOT64125.aspx

Ticket clearly July "15"

Well a simple check of baseball reference or a Google search shows he suffered that Lumbago Attack and batted leadoff then left game on July "14"

https://www.baseball-reference.com/b...93407140.shtml


https://sabr.org/gamesproj/game/july...ainst-yankees/

July 15 game he has 4 at bats:
https://www.baseball-reference.com/b...93407150.shtml


How does PSA botch that???

Because they are f'ing stupid OR they don't care OR both.

Doug "it takes one to know one" Goodman

That is more than a little scary

So much for checks and balances

Or checking your work

Both, plus you forgot GREEDY and LAZY.

Only 1923 tickets have a Canada Dry advert on the back.

I saw some of those blank backed stubs being sold on Ebay. The seller stated that if they had N.Y.C. on the bottom they had to be from 1936. I bought several of these type stubs last year that were still attached to the scrapbook page. I only bought them because I figured the scrapbook page would serve as a way to date them definitively. However I have a couple from 1940 with the N.Y.C. at the bottom. I told the seller about this and his answer was that "mine were leftover 1936 tickets they used again in 1940". I do not think that is the case. I think the Keyman dating criteria is fine for what it says it is, grandstand and bleacher seat. These blank backs are what I believe as "tax receipts" for people who were let into the game either comped or with a pass of some kind.

D’oh! :p

edit: I’m on neither side of this feud. Makes for good reading, though.

Here's one up on Ebay (ignore the sellers assinine price)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/29450811968...wAAOSw~z1hfadL

Info written on the back, generally reliable, especially when it's not saying it's some historic game, is for a DH on July 29, 1951.

PSA on the front put it to 1950 Whitey Ford's first win.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/t...e-scores.shtml


PSA & Guide wrong or original ticket holder who went to the game and wrote unimportant game info on the back of it wrong?

Come on Paul, the answer is SO obvious...

Doug "sarcasm" Goodman