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Shoeless Moe 11-16-2022 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 2272013)
You misread what I said.

I said Zero chance he is not a Yankee next season. Meaning he will be a Yankee next season.

Just to reiterate.....ZERO

bcookie 11-16-2022 04:57 PM

my opinion that no one asked for:

There is no such thing as an AL or NL record. When Maris hit 61, was it in the records book AL record? No, it was MLB record.

Judge did nothing more than hit 62 home runs in the 2022 season.

G1911 11-16-2022 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bcookie (Post 2284222)
my opinion that no one asked for:

There is no such thing as an AL or NL record. When Maris hit 61, was it in the records book AL record? No, it was MLB record.

Judge did nothing more than hit 62 home runs in the 2022 season.

One can say they don’t care about it or it shouldn’t matter, but to say there is no such thing is false. They’ve been recognized for many decades.

Hack Wilson was listed for many years in many published resources as the NL holder. League records have been around since before 1961.

raulus 11-16-2022 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2284228)
One can say they don’t care about it or it shouldn’t matter, but to say there is no such thing is false.

What if I don't care AND it shouldn't matter?

G1911 11-16-2022 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by raulus (Post 2284230)
What if I don't care AND it shouldn't matter?

Oh dear, this is serious. If we don’t care about pedantries of comparisons and baseball history, what else are we going to do?!

raulus 11-16-2022 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2284232)
Oh dear, this is serious. If we don’t care about pedantries of comparisons and baseball history, what else are we going to do?!

Good point.

Remind me - Who's the current record holder for strikeouts against righties during innings 3-7 on Friday night games in stadiums east of the Mississippi?

G1911 11-16-2022 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by raulus (Post 2284235)
Good point.

Remind me - Who's the current record holder for strikeouts against righties during innings 3-7 on Friday night games in stadiums east of the Mississippi?

Come on man, are you even trying? Of course it’s Aloysius Jebbediah Mohammad Higgenbothom of the Carolina Cropdusters in the Mid South Association of Eastern Base Ball Clubs.

raulus 11-16-2022 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2284236)
Come on man, are you even trying? Of course it’s Aloysius Jebbediah Mohammad Higgenbothom of the Carolina Cropdusters in the Mid South Association of Eastern Base Ball Clubs.

And that's why records exist - to be broken by guys named Aloysius.

G1911 11-16-2022 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by raulus (Post 2284237)
And that's why records exist - to be broken by guys named Aloysius.

It’s going to be heartbreaking to fans everywhere when we discover that Aloysius was using performance enhancing drugs with a concoction of lamb entrails, rat poison, and methamphetamine when breaking the record.

Casey2296 11-16-2022 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2284238)
It’s going to be heartbreaking to fans everywhere when we discover that Aloysius was using performance enhancing drugs with a concoction of lamb entrails, rat poison, and methamphetamine when breaking the record.

''Tis rumored that Aloysius was a voracious consumer of original recipe "Coca-Cola.

Leon 11-19-2022 05:15 PM

It was said the guy who caught the ball turned down 3M for it. It's going to a Goldin auction in the future. Personally, I probably would have taken the money!! A bird in hand and all..
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Schlesinj 11-19-2022 05:24 PM

Judge said he won’t bid on it because it is out of his price range.

Wanaselja 11-19-2022 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2285267)
It was said the guy who caught the ball turned down 3M for it. It's going to a Goldin auction in the future. Personally, I probably would have taken the money!! A bird in hand and all..
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It’s going to list with a $1,000,000 opening bid. Seems like a ridiculous price. I would’ve taken the $3 in a heartbeat… and bought a Wagner. Or a house.

Fred 11-19-2022 06:46 PM

As people say - records are made to be broken. What's statistically interesting is that a Yankee has held the AL record for HRs in a season for almost 100 years. No, I'm not a Yankee fan, in fact most of the time I'll be rooting for the other team when the Yankees (and Dodgers) are playing.

If someone was going to do it for the Yankees, I'm happy it was Judge in his walk year. It's going to be really interesting to see how the negotiations go. I'm happy it wasn't A-rod as a Yankee that passed Maris. That would have just sucked for Yankee purists. Kind of like when Maris that passed Ruth and not Mantle, but in this case, Maris was a class act, like Judge.

Heck, the person to pass Judge could be Judge himself or maybe that player hasn't been born yet.

Records are made to be broken and when they're like this record, it's fun to watch it play out.

Snowman 11-19-2022 11:58 PM

Zero chance that ball sells for $3M, in my opinion. I'll be shocked if it eclipses $2.1, but hype has a way of infecting people, so who knows.

SyrNy1960 11-20-2022 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Wanaselja (Post 2285276)
It’s going to list with a $1,000,000 opening bid. Seems like a ridiculous price. I would’ve taken the $3 in a heartbeat… and bought a Wagner. Or a house.

Greed! If he gets more than $3M, then good call. If not, then bad call. However, $3M is guaranteed right now and is a tremendous amount of money for the ball. So I'm a guy at a game, who catches Judge's #62 HR AL record ball, and I'm offered $3M for it. No brainer in my book!

ullmandds 11-20-2022 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 3arod13 (Post 2285405)
Greed! If he gets more than $3M, then good call. If not, then bad call. However, $3M is guaranteed right now and is a tremendous amount of money for the ball. So I'm a guy at a game, who catches Judge's #62 HR AL record ball, and I'm offered $3M for it. No brainer in my book!

Agreed! 3 million…cash…in a duffel bag…and its yours!!!

nebboy 11-20-2022 11:58 AM

My take:
Fun watching Judge this year. Glad he had a great year BUT I've never been a fan of guys that step up with their best stat year only when they are in their free agent year with big payday on the door step. My favorite players are the ones that produce each and every year barring injury. I know he passed on a chance to sign before and took the chance but if he is still producing in the 2nd and 3rd year of his new contact in the same type manor. Then I'll eat my pessimistic words. Just seen to many guys get the big pay and never play the same again.

jingram058 11-20-2022 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by nebboy (Post 2285486)
My take:
Fun watching Judge this year. Glad he had a great year BUT I've never been a fan of guys that step up with their best stat year only when they are in their free agent year with big payday on the door step. My favorite players are the ones that produce each and every year barring injury. I know he passed on a chance to sign before and took the chance but if he is still producing in the 2nd and 3rd year of his new contact in the same type manor. Then I'll eat my pessimistic words. Just seen to many guys get the big pay and never play the same again.

Could not agree more.

That said, I hope he stays with the Yankees anyhow.

raulus 11-21-2022 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 2284217)
Just to reiterate.....ZERO

It’s happening!!!!!

https://www.mlb.com/news/aaron-judge...ng-with-giants

Shoeless Moe 11-22-2022 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by raulus (Post 2285980)

Nah.......just got to go thru the motions.

Aquarian Sports Cards 11-22-2022 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by campyfan39 (Post 2270663)
I think if the * was applied to Maris it should be applied to Judge.
I am not saying I am in favor of it I just see a double standard there. Neither beat Ruth in 154 games.

Lots to like about the young man, his family, character etc. I don't like the Yankees but have found him hard to dislike.

Finally, I appreciate the posts on career statistics. I think the addition of expanded rounds of playoffs also skews career totals. But it is what it is and I am looking forward to coming home early from work tomorrow and watching baseball all day :)

The asterisk was a fictional construct. It never actually appeared in any official capacity.

https://www.villagevoice.com/2011/06...-the-asterisk/

raulus 11-30-2022 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 2286021)
Nah.......just got to go thru the motions.

Looks like the bidding war is getting started!

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/y...on-per-report/

etsmith 12-04-2022 09:14 PM

I think what Aaron judge did is pretty special, he's only the third hitter to ever hit 60 home runs in a season without cheating to do it. Sounds like a pretty spectacular accomplishment to me.

Shoeless Moe 12-07-2022 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 2271914)
ZERO chance he is not a Yankee next season.

God damn you are smart kid.

Schlesinj 12-17-2022 09:08 PM

1,500,000 w BP Final sale price.

Shoeless Moe 12-18-2022 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Schlesinj (Post 2295276)
1,500,000 before BP Final sale price.

1.5 mil is WITH the BP, final bid was 1.25 mil

https://goldin.co/item/october-4-202...eball-mlbxh2a0

Lucas00 12-18-2022 01:04 AM

I am not a big modern baseball fan, But That seems like a massive bargain to me for what it represents. And the historical moment it created.

A few decades or so and It should easily double in value.

mrreality68 12-18-2022 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucas00 (Post 2295309)
I am not a big modern baseball fan, But That seems like a massive bargain to me for what it represents. And the historical moment it created.

A few decades or so and It should easily double in value.

Bargain or not still big money but sadly a lost bet for the seller.

I do agree it should go up over time just surprised it did not sell for more

Shoeless Moe 12-18-2022 09:42 AM

I personally think it did about right, the thing is, this AL record by Judge will be beat.

Almost every hitter is worried about launch angle and would gladly bat around .220 if they are hitting 40 home runs...rather than hit .300 with 20 home runs. Evidenced by what was it a whopping 10 guys hit .300 or better last season (vs. 36 in 2002)......and there is no line drive contest at the All Star Break.

Go watch any MLB team BP before a game, all they are trying for is to put it in the seats. I was trained to take the pitchers head off. Line drives up the middle if you got your pitch.

So it's the current AL record......it will be surpassed multiple times in the next 10-15 years.

Book it!

brian1961 12-18-2022 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 2284217)
Just to reiterate.....ZERO

Sorry, Moe. You're right; I miss-read what you wrote. My bad. I updated my post, though it's irrelevant at this point. Be that as it may, you were spot on, Shoeless Moe; Mr. Judge remains a Yankee!!! --- Brian Powell

insidethewrapper 12-18-2022 05:47 PM

Seller turned down $ 3 million, what a big mistake .

raulus 12-18-2022 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by insidethewrapper (Post 2295580)
Seller turned down $ 3 million, what a big mistake .

In all fairness to the seller, there seem to have been plenty of people who agreed with that strategy.

Jcosta19 12-18-2022 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by insidethewrapper (Post 2295580)
Seller turned down $ 3 million, what a big mistake .

If the guy who offered 3 mil won it for 1.5 then I'd agree with you, but that isn't what happened.

I have seen this mentioned a lot since the sale but the consignor himself came out and said he was uncomfortable with the lawyer/firm that relayed that and another large offer on behalf of 2 interested parties so I think there is more than meets the eye to those "turned down" offers and how genuine/legit they were.

Goldin also confirmed that the people that made those 2 offers were well aware of the auction and were not among the bidders (even under bidders) which also makes it seem like the offers were fishy or at least had more to them.

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oldjudge 12-18-2022 08:46 PM

Nothing fishy about it. I'm pretty sure I know who bid $3 million for the ball and am not surprised that he did not bid in Golden.

abothebear 12-18-2022 08:47 PM

What’s the big deal about an asterisk? It just something that alerts you to notable information. 150 year long record books ought to be littered with them. The thing really doesn’t make much sense without asterisks (or the equivalent). Most of the arguments and counter arguments on this thread are asterisks (some more helpful than others. None of them remove the record from the books or make it less real. If someone wants to celebrate the asterisk next to Maris that says his feat was special because of the unusual animosity from his own team’s fans, that makes sense. Likewise for those that want to stress the number of games each hit their significant home runs in, or whether or not the player played against an integrated league that includes the best pitchers, or my favorite asterisk, Yankee stadium is a joke for homers.

Asterisk on, my friends.

5-Tool Player 12-19-2022 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by packs (Post 2270406)
Is it fair to say he's not under pressure? He's both in the midst of of hitting 62 home runs, trying to win the triple crown, and planning his next move after he becomes a free agent.

He bet on himself the whole season. How can you say he's not under any pressure? He performed under a massive amount of pressure.

+1...not a Yankee fan...but I agree

D. Bergin 12-19-2022 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by abothebear (Post 2295634)
… or my favorite asterisk, Yankee stadium is a joke for homers.

Asterisk on, my friends.


Not if you’re a right handed hitter. Check Judge’s splits.


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