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Another beauty that I recently obtained, Chief Bender....
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Love the Tinker, as I noted earlier, one of most unusual images in all of "card" world--and nearly 8 x 10 to boot.
Here he is in front row, third from left. This hangs in my bedroom, BTW. Sepia never more thrilling. https://www.net54baseball.com/attach...1&d=1696000810 |
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Interesting test cases over at Heritage closing tonight.
There's a BGS 4.5 Addie Joss selling well above its estimate. As usual, PSA's grade (based on my experience) would be much lower due to corner wear. However, unlike most, it seems to have no tiny tears or nicks or creases so my guess would be (an unfairly harsh) PSA 2--if scan is accurate. Still, the current bids there are in line with that potential re-grading but we'll see where it ends up. The Joe Jackson appears--to me--to be a rare case where the BGS grade would be pretty much in line with PSA. It's pretty clean and, in fact, looks superior to the Joss. It may be that BGS is tightening up its grading or, more likely, I am missing something in the scans. But this could get the same grade from PSA, almost a first on these...but again, will be interesting to see where price winds up... https://www.net54baseball.com/attach...1&d=1696017338 |
Clearly there is strong interest in M101-2's, regardless of the holder they are in.
The results speak for themselves. 1909-13 M101-2 Sporting News Supplement Joe Jackson BGS Fair 1.5 $9,900 https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?s...oduct.chain%5D 1909-13 M101-2 Sporting News Supplement Addie Joss BGS VG-EX+ 4.5.... https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?s...oduct.chain%5D $2,200 |
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Incredible, nearly $10K for Joe Jackson’s M101-2 grail card, remaining the undisputed key to the set. There’s one on eBay (for now) for less than half that price:
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Just curious does the salad affect the value or what? This PSA 1.5 on HA sold in May of this year and it went for $16,200 or was this a spike in price? Or what?
and even a PSA 1 in 2021 that sold for almost 13K from Memory Lane https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c.../50062-50168.s https://memorylaneinc.com/site/bids/...e?itemid=60723 |
As I've noted, BGS prices nowadays are always much lower than PSA for comparable gradings. So not surprising the BGS Jackson went for far less than recent PSA 1.5 last night. And the Joss BGS 4.5 went for 2200 -- vs. recent 3000 for a PSA 2. I had written above that I'd judge that BGS Joss as maybe a PSA 2 so the price last night not bad, probably. But, yes, BGS prices have also soared. Just figure on lower grades if you ask PSA to re-grade......
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Appreciate the insight and I am biased as I was the winner of this one and I was very happy with the price and love the eye appeal
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Congratulations, Jeff - that is a STUNNER!
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Jeff, will you try to cross it? It looks pristine on all the edges.
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Jeff: After gaining a lot of experience in past year, I noted earlier that I thought this might be a rare case where the PSA grade might match the BGS grade. But can't tell without seeing card in hand....Some look great and then you notice, as I'm sure you know, when held to light and and put at angle, a back crease shows up which, unfairly, PSA then knocks these down to a "1." Absurd but true...But this even as a PSA 1 worth what you paid for it, in my view....
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I suppose when trying to cross to PSA one can ask for a number grade as a minimum. And in the case of the Jackson, a cross from a 1.5 Beckett to a PSA 1 is a solid result. The bigger issues are when Beckett has graded the cards a 3 or higher. At that point I’m not sure if a cross to a PSA 1 or 1.5 is worth it.
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Thanks Greg and Jeff for your knowledge and insights.
I will definitely consider at some point. But I agree I have to get it in hand to take a better look. The photos do not always show everything. Regardless I am excited to get this and this copy |
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Happy to have this--we share an alma mater....Hughie Jennings, same...
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Just an update: M101-2 cards continue to arrive regularly on ebay, in auctions or buy now, mainly raw but probably due to recent surge in prices, mainly for graded HOFers. As usual with these fragile issues, condition is usually quite flawed, but of course, still great images and large size. I had raised issue earlier of whether it was true, as some claim, that now we will see a great number of them in terrific condition, raw or graded, and at high price emerge as longtime collectors break them out in response to spike in value.
However, in contrast, I guessed that we might not see this sudden (or even eventual) appearance of high-condition versions because: 1) most of the collectors, from comments and evidence, have been happy to collect these over the years in often not great condition--or what appears to be great condition but by PSA's current too-tough standard for these (any tiny nick or crease knocks them down to a "2" or less) not likely to earn top dollar. 2) there aren't that many collectors anyway--and probably most are generally not interested in ever getting them graded (or even selling them). 3) a number of large collections (from 67/100 to 99/100) have been sold at auction houses in past year. But with one buyer's exception, versions that have emerged from them so far have, again, gotten very low PSA grades--or mainly been sold raw via ebay in very poor or so-so condition. Again, it's a case of cards that look great but even the tiniest flaw knocks down PSA grade--and people have mainly only paid high price for HOFers with decent grade. 4) It's possible that some with BGS versions with good grades (4 and above) will now break them out for PSA grades and it will be interesting to see what grades they get. I am guessing--in most cases, disappointing. And I have not heard yet of anyone doing this but it will be fascinating to learn the results. And, of course, PSA may even find a few were trimmed etc. 5) Raw cards with obvious flaws are selling at very good prices (compared to past) right now anyway. 6) Of course, all of this is just my opinion based on close study of past year and would be curious to read any responses. |
Updating the above: bunch of new ones up at ebay and, again, all low quality. And some elite players now coming to Heritage at end of month (Cobb, Jackson, WaJO etc.) all PSA 1 or worse.
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Does Speaker have a mustache in his M101-2? Did he ever have one in his early playing days?
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Good question--but this image always seems to suggest a faint 'stache but probably misleading.
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Couldn't find Tris Speaker with a stache, but on this tangent, please enjoy...
The 50 Greatest Mustaches in MLB History | Bleacher Report | 2011 https://cdn.bleacherreport.net/image...jpg?1306310149 |
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Excellent top 50 MLB stache list. Mick should get honorable mention!
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Bunch of newly graded HOFers just up at Leland's including Wags-Cobb, Lajoie and Joss. As usual, only 1s and 2s due to ultra-strict PSA on these. Also new at ebay a Joe Jackson and another Wags-Cobb, was up for auction last night then disappeared. And Heritage has some coming up, again low grades but nice.
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A raw Jackson (written on “OF” in upper right corner) with a beat up Tinker sold yesterday on the Heritage Sunday for around $5k ( w BP).
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I was a underbidder on it
Thought oh heck it go over 10k with my luck At 5k sounds like a bargain with recent sales Depending it grades auth or 1 Does anyone think it grades a psa 1? |
It would be a "1" but with writing on front would have to be an Auth....
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I've sold most of mine over the years...saved this one and a few others.
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Yes, very rare ad back....
Well, if you ever want to sell any of your remaining, let me know.... |
Two new ones up at eBay--a Criger/Cy Young 2 and a Matty 3. However, they are from Beckett and by PSA standards both "ones" (see reverse of Matty and paper loss on upper right of the Young).
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In case anyone thought PSA might moderate its super-harsh grading of these...just got this back today. Merely a "2." The back is also great.
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I'm psyched they're starting to get some respect. None of mine are graded and probably never will be, but they are some of my favorites in my collection:
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By usual PSA standards on these, very generous grade on the Alexander. Of course, it deserves VG-EX but normally from them on these this would be about a 2 -- presuming back is great.
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Nap time
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Interest and prices remain strong for these at AHs (not so much ebay). Record prices for PSA 1s for Young-Criger and Johnson-Street at Heritage last night. PSA 1 Cobb not so much but lot of damage there.
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More record prices last night at Lelands for most of the HOFers (LaJoie, Joss, Cobb-Wagner, Walsh and on and on). All PSA 2 and PSA 1. Now we'll see what happens at REA with similar. Bidders by now seem to get the idea that few better quality--by PSA standards--are out there......
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I wonder if relatively new collectors are gravitating to these beauties? They’re an affordable(ish) way to get into a playing days card of a HORer and are fantastic display pieces to put T206 cards (or other ‘traditional’ cards) in front of as a backdrop. However, for dealers these M101-2s take up the space of 2+ graded cards on a table, so therefore have a lower return per square inch of table space due to their size.
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