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Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>Peter,<br /><br />An interesting thing about the players union's prevention of steroid testing is that is made it near impossible, barring admission, to 100% prove a player used steroids but impossible to prove he didn't.<br /><br />In other words, it's impossible for a player to prove a negative if he never tested negative.

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Posted By: <b>RC McKenzie</b><p>McGwire and Clemens are no-brainers. <br /><br />Funny thing is if you ask the average person sitting next to you at a baseball game if they know about Roger Maris, they say things like "..he's a great hall of famer", or "He was great!"<br /><br /><br />They don't say, "Who's he?"<br /><br />If a player is famous to the average fan 50 yrs after he played he should be in the hall of fame. Maybe they should take hof voting away from sportswriters and let the fans vote like they do in the all-star games.<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>David, Guys<br /><br />Just browse through the HOF's roster and you will realize that the voters are pretty lax on the moral and character requirement to the Hall. However, for Mark Mcgwire they made an exception and came down hard.<br /><br />As far as I can tell, there are two reasons for this: 1) this was first time Mark was on the ballot, and 2) Mark was the first ballplayer heavily suspected of using steroids. So it was pretty clear that the voters were using him as an example.<br /><br />It probably wouldn't have made much difference if he came clean. Just look at Jose Canseco, he only got a few votes. His career merited more than that.<br /><br />Peter

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Guys,<br /><br />Looks like the Rangers will give Sammy Sosa a chance to hit 600 homers. With more to come from Balco and Barry and possibly Sosa, it does not look like the steroid controversy will die anytime soon.<br /><br />Peter

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Guys,<br /><br />It looks like Barry is starting to worry about whether he'll make it into the HOF. In today's Yahoo Sports section he's lobbying for both Pete Rose and Mark McGwire to get into the HOF. Obviously, he's hoping the bar for "character" will be lowered so that he can get in. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Peter