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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Jim, as noted in the other thread you wrote that you were "sure" that some of your cards would not regrade. Now you claim that you simply "presume" this to be true. Sorry that I took you at your word. I had forgotten for a brief moment who I was dealing with. <br /><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Jim Crandell</b><p>Dave,<br /><br />Oh nuts--I was looking forward to it--couldn't wait to get home from the TOC squash championships to go at it again.<br /><br />Jeff is always ready for a skirmish but I have been warned by many to steer clear off him--so go ahead Jeff--you will win because I won't respond.<br /><br />Jim

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Jim, I'm not looking for a fight -- it just pains me to find you always insulting everyone and then crying about the treatment you receive here. And despite your many offers to "debate" me now you are running away? Jim, you are a lot of things but I never expected you to be a coward.

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>Said I wasn't in the mood....however that obviously doesn't change the fact your still a LOLLYGAGGER<br /><br /><br /><br />Dave

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Dave,<br /><br />You just flat out have nothing to say that indicates any level of intelligence.<br /><br />Jeff,<br /><br />I am running away???? I have offered to debate you several times and you never respond. <br /><br />You don't understand Jeff--I don't care about the treatment--and I am only responding to what people say to me. Why should I go out of my way to insult people like Bretta and Dave who have nothing intelligent to say. I am only responding to their insults.

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Jim, last night you claimed that you have been warned to "steer clear off [sic]" me and that you won't respond -- and today you respond. I find it funny how at a last resort you claim that you have anonymous support on the board when we both know that there is not a single person here that can stand you. You've even managed to insult Joann. I guess she's bad too. It must be tough to live in a world where you're the only one who is always right and everyone is always wrong. I've never seen a guy who is so blind to his own stink.

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Posted By: <b>Andrew Parks</b><p>I just want to say I don't mind either of you.

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>I get so sick of this "Dave and Bretta have nothing intelligent to say" line of crap you keep spewing. I haven't seen where either of us are doing anything but responding to your typical ramblings. I told you last night I wasn't in the mood, and what do you do? You act like a jerk, again. Maybe it has nothing to do with the cards...maybe it has nothing to do with the collectors...maybe you just have problems getting along with everyone in your life?? Do you find in your daily life everyone you encounter rolling thier eyes as they see you coming Jim? Give up this crap about us not having anything intelligent to say. Once again, and as always...Lollygagger.

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Jeff,<br /><br />I have no idea what you mean. You and others keep saying I am disliked on the board. WHO CARES--this is not a popularity contest. I could care less what anyone thinks here--I just tell it like it is or how I see it. You and others seem to take great comfort in that there are others who don't like me--<br /><br />Dave the Dunce speaks again--ha ha ha.

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Ok, Jim. Go to work. There is no comfort here in the fact that you are roundly reviled, believe me. I wish you were a more positive person and liked by many. Really.

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>Why don't you go sit in a cold, dark room with your PSA 8's and 9's....and cuddle with them? At least that would give everyone here a break from you.<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>"Roundly reviled"--good one.<br /><br />You just cannot stay away from the personal attacks.<br /><br />Appreciate all the support non card alteration--ha ha.

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Jim, I do actually wish you were a nicer person and not so ugly. I think your children would benefit and their children would benefit and so forth and maybe at least a part of the world would be nicer, less paranoid and more giving. Imagine what your children would think if they read this asinine crap you post out here. Do you ever think of that?

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Jeff,<br /><br />Do you ever have any hobby thoughts or do you just like to attack me all the time.<br /><br />You said you were supportive? All I know about you is you and Colt were trading insults and you both took them down.<br /><br />If you have anything positive to say please say it--did you ever think of that?

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Jim, what you fail to realize is that there can hardly be any discourse when you are around -- in any venue. Something bad must have happened to you to make you this way. I wonder what.

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Jeff,<br /><br />That is about 6 personal insults in a row--not once have I stooped anywhere near your level. <br /><br />Where is all this vigorous support for my positions you said you made...looking and looking and looking.

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Jim, do you not recognize that T206 agreed to back off of you-only to be attacked by you again? How is it insulting for me to point this out? Do you have a framed picture of Richard Nixon on your wall?

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Jeff's tenth persoanl attack in a row--I think its getting obvious that the guy has serious issues that he feels the need to continue this.

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Jim, are you reaching out to the board in a desperate attempt to get any support? I think you'll find that your desperate pleas are falling on deaf ears. Personal issues? You think I have some personal issues because I find myself trying to dial down your nastiness and to get you to play nice? Jim, I'm just curious: what personal issues do you think someone like me would have that would cause me to respond to you the way I have? Please enlighten me.

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Jeff,<br /><br />You just don't get it--I don't need support--I don't want support--but something is wrong with a guy who attacks someone time and again while I have said nothing about you. You hate me--I get it--the board gets it--is it necessary to say it 20 different ways and bring my family into it?<br /><br />Can't you talk about hobby issues. I have asked you numerous times to talk about all this substantial support you weere giving me that I can't seem to remember?

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Jim, you so badly want support -- that's why you are constantly whining about not getting any regarding your crusade to rid the world of trimmed cards (except the ones in your collection, naturally). I don't have the time to weed through the past 4000 posts so I won't cut and paste in a Niedermeyerian way to show you my past support. Why don't you ask Barry if I supported you publicly?

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Jeff,<br /><br />Honestly I don't care--just stop the personal attacks.<br /><br />Support the cause if you wish--don't support it if you wish -- I just don't remember you doing so.<br /><br />Ridding the world of trimmeed cards is too ambitious--cutting back on the growth from here would be nice though.<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>oops, sorry i thought you guys were back on the topic of high-grade T206 cards...<br /><br />my bad, carry-on guys.<br />

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Hopefully we are--any new 8s or 9s Mike in T206. Getting bids at $2,500 for high pop 8 commons I am thinking of hitting to free up some funds.

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>No more fighting in this thread....please.....it is a thread about high grade T206's so that is the subject....I included my SGC 70.......I really would like to have less bickering for at least the next few days, pretty please..(no need for comments about this)...best regards

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Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>i'm trying to get this back on topic.<br /><br />jim- i have picked up a few new common 8's, some 7's, rare backs, rare variations (elberfeld, smith, kleinow, etc, all PSA 5), and as you might have seen acquired one of the PSA 10's...<br /><br /><br />you?

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Thank you Leon...whew.<br /><br />What did you pay for the common 8s and what was the pop?

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Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>fairly low pop...1/4...1/5, none higher...$2000-2300...they are starting to pick up again...2200-2400, even higher depending on pops.

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>I'm curious to know if either of your PSA 8's or 9's were ever submitted raw by yourselves...or if all your bought slabbed?

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Mike,<br /><br />Thats a good buy price in my opinion. I would give you your pick of commons pop 5 and higher at $2,500.<br /><br />Dave,<br /><br />All my 8s and 9s were bought graded. I bought a Cobb Green raw that was advertised nrmt-mt came back trimmed by PSA and SGC, a Cobb bat on shoulder that came back altered by PSA and resubmitted and was a psa 5, a Jennings portrait that came back trimmed by psa and sgc graded as a 60.

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>Thats what I would have thought. The chance of ever picking up a raw card on ebay and it coming back a 8 or 9 are slim and none. I've seen raw cards that "looked" good enough in scans...but not good enough to spend the money on a raw card that was being asked. The very best I've ever gotten submitting a raw T206 off ebay was a PSA 6, and I would have thought a 7, it was a Powell horizontal.

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Dave,<br /><br />Having the raw Cobb come back as trimmed was crushing to me and from that point on I never bought a raw card.

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Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><br /> Hi Dave,<br /> I have submitted about 90% of my 7's and 8's and most were from original finds. It's rare to see a raw card on EBAY these days that will grade that high, but it does happen every once in awhile. Be well Brian

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Posted By: <b>Martin Neal</b><p>Hi Dave,<br /><br /> The only Psa 8 in my collection was purchased raw off of Ebay about 3 years ago. It was in a group of five t206s and I think I paid $550.00 for all of them. Probably 98% of what I have has been purchased raw.<br /><br />Martin

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>Brian...about 90%? That is some record. What are you defining "finds" as? Just groups of cards you've managed to find off some elderly couple? Actual "they've been in the attic for years" type deals? Truely one lucky man. <br /><br /><br />Martin...that is one hell of a deal. Again, nothing i've every come across. The PSA 6 Powell I bought raw in a lot of 5 cards. The other four were all beaters including a Wallace. Got the five for $85. Ended up selling the Powell for $385 if memory serves.

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Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><br /> Hi Dave,<br /> Back in the 80's and early 90's it wasn't that uncommon for "finds" of 300-400 cards to hit the market place. It doesn't happen as often now, but I know of 2 original collections which are still intact that total over 1200 cards.....<br /><br />Most of my high grade T206's came from 3 different finds:<br />1. "Southern Find"<br />2. Richmond Find<br />3. Charlotte Find- a REAL ole lady at a flea market with 400 nm/mt T206's... Her husband was a mailman obsessed with condition, so the cards were amazing...<br /><br /><br /><br />Otherwise 20 cards from the NC mountains find and a few off EBAY are it...

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Posted By: <b>Martin Neal</b><p><br />Dave,<br /><br /> I think only two groups of t206s/t205s that I have acquired qualify as "finds", meaning that they actually had not seen the light of day for many many years. One was a group of about 130 T206s or so found in a attic just north of where I live in Virginia. The other was a mixed group of T205s and T206s from Richmond.<br /><br />Brian,<br /><br /> I have sometimes heard the Richmond find called the Southern find. I think it derives from the the fact that one of the original purchasers owned a Card store here in Charlottesville named Southern Cards. Were they two distinct finds?<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>If either of you just plain run out of room for the cards you can let me know by email. I'll keep things on the downlow, but may have a kid or two I can trade for the cards....HA HA

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Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>dave- i bought my 8's & 9's already graded...<br /><br />the best i have gotten back from PSA is some 6's & 7's.