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Archive 07-09-2008 07:20 PM

Mullaney w Young ghost, multiple overstrike reverse authenticated by PSA ends tonight
 
Posted By: <b>Rob D.</b><p>Congrats!

Archive 07-09-2008 07:21 PM

Mullaney w Young ghost, multiple overstrike reverse authenticated by PSA ends tonight
 
Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Only one person bid above $8400 and hit the reserve. Hiding the bidders' IDs really hurt this auction.

Archive 07-09-2008 07:23 PM

Mullaney w Young ghost, multiple overstrike reverse authenticated by PSA ends tonight
 
Posted By: <b>Tim</b><p>Congrats TE!<br /><br />Such an interesting card. I could never bring myself to spend that kind of money on it, but I do love it.

Archive 07-09-2008 07:25 PM

Mullaney w Young ghost, multiple overstrike reverse authenticated by PSA ends tonight
 
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Why do you say that? In a major auction no one would know the bidders. Just curious...

Archive 07-09-2008 07:40 PM

Mullaney w Young ghost, multiple overstrike reverse authenticated by PSA ends tonight
 
Posted By: <b>JP</b><p>I hope it was a legit bidder. Maybe Tom can fill us in...

Archive 07-09-2008 07:41 PM

Mullaney w Young ghost, multiple overstrike reverse authenticated by PSA ends tonight
 
Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Because anonymous bidding is expected in an auction house auction; on ebay it is not and just raises too many red flags.

Archive 07-09-2008 07:42 PM

Mullaney w Young ghost, multiple overstrike reverse authenticated by PSA ends tonight
 
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I think it was probably a legit bidder....but yes red flags do go up....Tom (hi Tom) gave a pretty good account of himself for that mix up....

Archive 07-09-2008 07:46 PM

Mullaney w Young ghost, multiple overstrike reverse authenticated by PSA ends tonight
 
Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Yes -- but the readers of this thread are a tiny fraction of those who would be bidding on the card. Maybe the explanation could have been put on the ebay listing.

Archive 07-09-2008 07:49 PM

Mullaney w Young ghost, multiple overstrike reverse authenticated by PSA ends tonight
 
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>All it takes is a tiny fraction....but you make a good point. Maybe it would have gone for more? I thought that was a lot of money, but who knows anymore....I am sure the winner, if legit, will be happy with it. It's neat looking that's for sure.

Archive 07-09-2008 07:55 PM

Mullaney w Young ghost, multiple overstrike reverse authenticated by PSA ends tonight
 
Posted By: <b>Adam</b><p>If it was in error to make it a private auction, maybe the seller can post here the eBay user name of who won?

Archive 07-09-2008 07:57 PM

Mullaney w Young ghost, multiple overstrike reverse authenticated by PSA ends tonight
 
Posted By: <b>Tom aka TE</b><p>Winner is legit and very smart in my eyes to have scooped this card up. it is the king of all reverse error cards, and a t206. I'm saying goodbye to an old friend. Maybe buyer will cut me in for 5% if he/she ever relists.<br /><br />Just for old times sake!

Archive 07-09-2008 07:57 PM

Mullaney w Young ghost, multiple overstrike reverse authenticated by PSA ends tonight
 
Posted By: <b>Matt</b><p>I'd think he'd need the winning bidder's permission to do that; that bidder may have bid only because he thought his ID wouldn't be exposed.

Archive 07-09-2008 07:57 PM

Mullaney w Young ghost, multiple overstrike reverse authenticated by PSA ends tonight
 
Posted By: <b>Rob D.</b><p>Adam,<br /><br />I think that would be a huge mistake. Right now the only person the seller should be concerned about is the high bidder. And who knows, the private-auction format might have appealed to the high bidder. Posting his/her eBay name here would serve no purpose. IMO, of course.

Archive 07-09-2008 07:58 PM

Mullaney w Young ghost, multiple overstrike reverse authenticated by PSA ends tonight
 
Posted By: <b>Tim</b><p>From what I read "the tiny fraction" of people on this board tha showed interest in this card put the value at between $3000-$5000. TE gave a good explination for the bidding being private and I can understand after all he had gone through not wanting to pull the auction after his error and listing it again.<br /><br />In the end his RESERVE was met and if the bidder was legit all we be pleased with the end result.<br /><br />Shouldn't that be good enough?

Archive 07-09-2008 07:58 PM

Mullaney w Young ghost, multiple overstrike reverse authenticated by PSA ends tonight
 
Posted By: <b>Tom aka TE</b><p>As far as ID of winner, that goes to grave with me until he/she says "It's me!"

Archive 07-09-2008 08:47 PM

Mullaney w Young ghost, multiple overstrike reverse authenticated by PSA ends tonight
 
Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>there's WAY too much discussion on here about this auction (the card is amazing, that's a given)...but there was/is way too much talking going on about this eBay auction..."i bid this, he bid that, reserve not met, i offered him x amount"...keep it private guys.<br /><br /><br /><br />

Archive 07-09-2008 08:52 PM

Mullaney w Young ghost, multiple overstrike reverse authenticated by PSA ends tonight
 
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>What do you mean? Can't we all talk about a card with the person selling it involved? I think whoever bought it paid way too much btw......this was a 3k card at the most

Archive 07-09-2008 08:59 PM

Mullaney w Young ghost, multiple overstrike reverse authenticated by PSA ends tonight
 
Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Perhaps we can start another thread on this?

Archive 07-09-2008 09:04 PM

Mullaney w Young ghost, multiple overstrike reverse authenticated by PSA ends tonight
 
Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>i agree Leon...as i said at the top of this thread, it is a $4500 card, at most...i'm happy for tom that he did really well on it (even tho he had visions of $40K+)...<br /><br />of course we can talk about whatever we want, but as i scroll thru this thread, there just seems to be WAY too much discussion happening specifically about the auction...as someone noted above, the dialogue between JP & tom should be a private one...<br /><br />

Archive 07-09-2008 09:16 PM

Mullaney w Young ghost, multiple overstrike reverse authenticated by PSA ends tonight
 
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I agree with what you said and I was kidding about my valuation of it. It's just me starting trouble again <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>.....regards and talk to ya soon<br />

Archive 07-09-2008 09:18 PM

Mullaney w Young ghost, multiple overstrike reverse authenticated by PSA ends tonight
 
Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>Leon- <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> you got me there, looking forward to hanging out in Chi-town with ya!<br /><br />MS

Archive 07-09-2008 09:25 PM

Mullaney w Young ghost, multiple overstrike reverse authenticated by PSA ends tonight
 
Posted By: <b>chiprop</b><p>oops

Archive 07-10-2008 04:17 AM

Mullaney w Young ghost, multiple overstrike reverse authenticated by PSA ends tonight
 
Posted By: <b>david</b><p>i am not certain i would call this card 'the king' of overprints. the laxative ad back overprint currently on ebay is a much more appealing overprint then this card in my opinion. i also think the card went for more the 2x what it should have.

Archive 07-10-2008 06:07 AM

Mullaney w Young ghost, multiple overstrike reverse authenticated by PSA ends tonight
 
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>To me the laxative overprint T206 back looks somewhat washed out..Still a great looking card but not quite the other one...The card last night was the coolest looking one I have ever seen. If I was going to own just one of them it would have been the one with the Young on back last night...It looks like there were 2-3 bidders over 8k so not sure about 4-5k being the value. It certainly sold higher in a fairly open, maybe even slightly tainted, auction..The laxative one will probably pick up some steam due to that price......all just my opinion.....regards

Archive 07-10-2008 06:20 AM

Mullaney w Young ghost, multiple overstrike reverse authenticated by PSA ends tonight
 
Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>i'm with Leon here...<br /><br />the laxative overprint is really cool looking, but with all due respect, the fact that the overprint is unrelated to T206, might hold the value down on it...if it were just a Hindu back (for example) on top of a Piedmont back it would sell for multiples of what the laxative will sell for, IMO.<br /><br /> <br /><br />

Archive 07-10-2008 06:23 AM

Mullaney w Young ghost, multiple overstrike reverse authenticated by PSA ends tonight
 
Posted By: <b>Dave F</b><p><br />I know Tom kind of brought to attention his auction on his card here. But I think in the best interest of the seller of the laxative overprint, shouldn't this NOT be discussed while that auction is still live? Especially the downplaying of his card? Unless I missed something, that seller has not made anymore commnets on his card since it went on ebay.

Archive 07-10-2008 06:27 AM

Mullaney w Young ghost, multiple overstrike reverse authenticated by PSA ends tonight
 
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I think talking about the cards usually drives the value up due to attention. This laxative one has lots of bidders and is neat.....I don't think it's so wrong to say if you like that one or the other better.....This is a chat board....but I do understand your concern too and it has some merit..BTW, the seller of the laxative one is a very nice gentleman......best regards

Archive 07-10-2008 06:31 AM

Mullaney w Young ghost, multiple overstrike reverse authenticated by PSA ends tonight
 
Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>Dave- to your point, i have simplified my post a bit...

Archive 07-10-2008 11:28 AM

Mullaney w Young ghost, multiple overstrike reverse authenticated by PSA ends tonight
 
Posted By: <b>David R</b><p>Hey guys,<br /><br />No problem talking about my laxative ad back that's on eBay. It's not a private auction, it has lots of bidders, and I did disclose the reserve. No secrets. It's all in the open and as far as I am concerned people are free to say what they want about it. I am not really one for pumping my own auctions or my collection so I have not posted since I listed it but I don't mind if others want to talk about it -- good or bad. Any exposure is probably good, but it probably doesn't matter much either way. Leon, thanks for the kind words.<br /><br />David R<br /><br />

Archive 07-10-2008 11:43 AM

Mullaney w Young ghost, multiple overstrike reverse authenticated by PSA ends tonight
 
Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>David- you know i like your laxative overprint a lot (as you know, we spoke a few times about it)...just to clarify, the point was trying to make, was that IF it had another brand as an overstrike instead, it would command a lot more...hope you do well on it!<br /><br />be well,<br />MS

Archive 07-10-2008 12:26 PM

Mullaney w Young ghost, multiple overstrike reverse authenticated by PSA ends tonight
 
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Admittedly the laxative ad is not related to the typical T206 back advertising...but it is a dramatic and colorful overprint, and with this area of collecting eye appeal is very important.

Archive 07-11-2008 04:25 AM

Mullaney w Young ghost, multiple overstrike reverse authenticated by PSA ends tonight
 
Posted By: <b>david</b><p>the fact that the laxative ad is not related to anything t206 is what makes it such an appealing card in my opinion. i would think type collectors would be driving the price on a card like this.

Archive 07-11-2008 04:46 AM

Mullaney w Young ghost, multiple overstrike reverse authenticated by PSA ends tonight
 
Posted By: <b>Dave F</b><p>David-<br /><br />I don't disagree. I think the buyer of the card (who is a board member) got a pretty good deal on that card. <br /><br /><br />Dave

Archive 07-11-2008 06:43 AM

Mullaney w Young ghost, multiple overstrike reverse authenticated by PSA ends tonight
 
Posted By: <b>T206Collector</b><p>...T206 would have been more appealing to me if it were the only one of its kind. Sloate sold a similar one last year.<br /><br /><br><br>_ <u> </u> _ <u> </u> _ <u> </u> _ <u> </u> _ <u> </u> _ <u> </u> _ _ <br /><br />Visit <a href="http://www.t206collector.com" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.t206collector.com</a> for signed deadball card galleries, articles and more!

Archive 07-11-2008 08:21 AM

Mullaney w Young ghost, multiple overstrike reverse authenticated by PSA ends tonight
 
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>That's correct, I did have one in 2007 and it sold for a little more than 1K.


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