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Laxcat 05-17-2015 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jobu (Post 1412080)
Oldring has a crop mark and a weak WST too, quite a bit happening there.

Does that mean it was at the end of the sheet and different? card was in the same spot on the next sheet? I'm quite new to the prewar stuff.

Pat R 05-17-2015 05:21 PM

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It's a corner crop. I posted these two with the same scratch earlier in
this thread.

Jobu 05-17-2015 11:18 PM

I hope you are enjoying learning about these - I can attest to how addicting it can be. I commented because I think it is always good to point things out and not assume that everyone knows what is being shown.

As Pat showed, this is a corner crop. The edges of the sheets had margins that were trimmed off after the cards were printed. Oldring appears to have been at the bottom right of his sheet (at least for Piedmont 150) as you can see by the location of the crop mark.

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Originally Posted by Laxcat (Post 1412082)
Does that mean it was at the end of the sheet and different? card was in the same spot on the next sheet? I'm quite new to the prewar stuff.


mullinsm 05-22-2015 12:36 PM

Here is one for your studies: Nicholls, Phila. Amer. Hope this helps!

<a href="http://imgur.com/dwAYHyp"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/dwAYHyp.jpg" title="source: imgur.com" /></a>

<a href="http://imgur.com/uDATx80"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/uDATx80.jpg" title="source: imgur.com" /></a>

Luke 05-22-2015 12:50 PM

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Camnitz

Pat R 05-22-2015 01:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mullinsm (Post 1413814)
Here is one for your studies: Nicholls, Phila. Amer. Hope this helps!

<a href="http://imgur.com/dwAYHyp"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/dwAYHyp.jpg" title="source: imgur.com" /></a>

<a href="http://imgur.com/uDATx80"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/uDATx80.jpg" title="source: imgur.com" /></a>

It Does help thanks for posting the scans, this scratch is in one of the sheets
we are working on (there is a link in post #205). There is part of a second
scratch on this Nicholls (through the T and Y in quality and part of the scroll)
that matches up with a second scratch on one of the Jacklitch scratches and
it shows up a little clearer on yours.


Luke, I saw that Camnitz when it was listed. Good price on it but I already had
one in a little rougher condition.

steve_a 06-02-2015 06:10 PM

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Below is (not mine) an upside down Doc White. Since it is upside down the back should be from a column equal columns from the center. For instance, given columns ABCD a typical A back would be a D when upside down. If we can match this back to a right-side-up player we have another data point on sheet width. If both players can be linked by a multi-column horizontal scratch that terminates in a side crop then I think algebra would give us the sheet width. Not a lot to work with here but I think there is scratch between "u" in Subjects and "Pi" in Piedmont. Add in a few stray distinctive marks and someone might recognize it.

mullinsm 06-02-2015 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat R (Post 1413832)
It Does help thanks for posting the scans, this scratch is in one of the sheets
we are working on (there is a link in post #205). There is part of a second
scratch on this Nicholls (through the T and Y in quality and part of the scroll)
that matches up with a second scratch on one of the Jacklitch scratches and
it shows up a little clearer on yours.


Luke, I saw that Camnitz when it was listed. Good price on it but I already had
one in a little rougher condition.

Great, glad I could help! The sheet image you directed me to is INCREDIBLE detective work. Thanks for your efforts - BRAVO!

t206hound 06-02-2015 07:53 PM

Piedmont 150 plate scratch(es) progress
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by steve_a (Post 1417473)
Below is (not mine) an upside down Doc White. Since it is upside down the back should be from a column equal columns from the center. For instance, given columns ABCD a typical A back would be a D when upside down. If we can match this back to a right-side-up player we have another data point on sheet width. If both players can be linked by a multi-column horizontal scratch that terminates in a side crop then I think algebra would give us the sheet width. Not a lot to work with here but I think there is scratch between "u" in Subjects and "Pi" in Piedmont. Add in a few stray distinctive marks and someone might recognize it.


I previously owned that card... I don't believe there's a plate scratch on it.


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Pat R 06-02-2015 08:34 PM

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Erick, I think Steve is referring to the short mark I circled in red but you
had it in hand and got a better look at it than what can be seen in the
small scans.

When you originally posted scans of this card I was looking at trying to
find a PD 150 subject with the mark I circled in black, it looks like it's
some kind of print mark.


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