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irv 02-01-2019 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by baseball tourist (Post 1842723)
Thanks! The wife would prob leave me. ;)

I see it is up to almost $15,000 dollars! (last I heard) I am unsure who is auctioning this ball but I did hear the auction ends tonight at 10pm.

How are you enjoying the single life? :D

baseball tourist 02-01-2019 06:16 PM

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I see it is up to almost $15,000 dollars! (last I heard) I am unsure who is auctioning this ball but I did hear the auction ends tonight at 10pm.

How are you enjoying the single life? :D

I’ve convinced myself that it there is too much uncertainty around the authenticity of the ball (oh, and that it is already many $1,000’s out of my collecting budget :)) to bid.

While I want to believe that all parties are telling the truth, the fact that one can still purchase a MLB authenticated, game used ball from the 2015 Post Season from the Jays for under $50, and remove the sticker, swapping it out for the actual ball (keeping said HR ball) and selling the dupe with the offered after-the-fact notarized statement - I just can’t feel comfortable.

Here’s my 2015 Post Season game ball from the Jays. I paid $37 for it 6 months ago.

MikeKam 02-01-2019 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by baseball tourist (Post 1851287)
I’ve convinced myself that it there is too much uncertainty around the authenticity of the ball (oh, and that it is already many $1,000’s out of my collecting budget :)) to bid.

While I want to believe that all parties are telling the truth, the fact that one can still purchase a MLB authenticated, game used ball from the 2015 Post Season from the Jays for under $50, and remove the sticker, swapping it out for the actual ball (keeping said HR ball) and selling the dupe with the offered after-the-fact notarized statement - I just can’t feel comfortable.

Here’s my 2015 Post Season game ball from the Jays. I paid $37 for it 6 months ago.

My concerns exactly (and I feel you regarding the price ;) )

Not sure why the home run baseball was not immediately authenticated - many/most other milestone or significant baseballs these days are MLB authenticated.

baseball tourist 02-01-2019 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeKam (Post 1851294)

Not sure why the home run baseball was not immediately authenticated - many/most other milestone or significant baseballs these days are MLB authenticated.

I wondered that very same thing, outloud, with a couple of my baseball loving, non-collector buddies in the room and they had no idea what I was talking about. It’s a shame for the consignor that the original owner had no one in the section etc tell him he could ask for a MLB sticker on site, as it would go a long way to helping many feel much more comfortable with the ball. Perhaps Leaving a lot of $ on the table? Who knows? There are plenty of deep-pocketed collectors and Jays fans in this country.

Little things weigh against this too, like the fact that the “Stat. Dec.” from the consigner has a different spelling of his last name than on the notarized document. Typo, no doubt, but for $16k and climbing, I would expect all the “I’s”to be dotted and “t’s” crossed perfectly.

yanks12025 02-01-2019 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeKam (Post 1851294)
My concerns exactly (and I feel you regarding the price ;) )

Not sure why the home run baseball was not immediately authenticated - many/most other milestone or significant baseballs these days are MLB authenticated.

MLB doesn't authenticate a ball that goes into the stands UNLESS its a major milestone ball (500th HR, 2000th hit, 3000th hit, etc) and in that case they use specially marked baseballs for that players at bat.. So if the ball does go into the stands, they will know if its the real ball or not.

baseball tourist 02-01-2019 07:01 PM

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MLB doesn't authenticate a ball that goes into the stands UNLESS its a major milestone ball (500th HR, 2000th hit, 3000th hit, etc) and in that case they use specially marked baseballs for that players at bat.. So if the ball does go into the stands, they will know if its the real ball or not.

Not the case. I have collector friends that have asked for and obtained the precence of a MLB authenticator while in the stands with a game ball in Toronto and also at Yankee Stadium. This has happened for a player’s first career HR ball that no one knew when it would be hit.

yanks12025 02-02-2019 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by baseball tourist (Post 1851302)
Not the case. I have collector friends that have asked for and obtained the precence of a MLB authenticator while in the stands with a game ball in Toronto and also at Yankee Stadium. This has happened for a player’s first career HR ball that no one knew when it would be hit.

Ok and in that case its a special situation because its the players first career homerun. In any other case, they're not gonna hologram it

Scott Garner 02-02-2019 07:02 AM

Chris,
FYI, the eventual winner of the ball is going to be Getty Lee from Rush.
Perhaps you are aware that Lee is Canadian & he has an extensive collection of historic baseballs in his collection. It's pretty difficult to outbid Rockstar money and I speak from experience. Just sayin'.

A few years ago I was an underbidder in the Heritage Platinum auction in NY that included Johnny Vander Meer's personal last out balls from his back to back no-hitters in 1938. Getty Lee won both of those balls for over $42K

baseball tourist 02-02-2019 11:38 AM

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Chris,
FYI, the eventual winner of the ball is going to be Getty Lee from Rush.
Perhaps you are aware that Lee is Canadian & he has an extensive collection of historic baseballs in his collection. It's pretty difficult to outbid Rockstar money and I speak from experience. Just sayin'.

A few years ago I was an underbidder in the Heritage Platinum auction in NY that included Johnny Vander Meer's personal last out balls from his back to back no-hitters in 1938. Getty Lee won both of those balls for over $42K

Cool (not the getting outbid by him part, Scott)! Geddy is a Jays season ticket holder and good Toronto lad. Perhaps the ball goes to the Jays or to the CBBHOF for display?

My buddy, a diehard Rush fan lives beside Geddy’s brother, Allan in the High Park area of Toronto and the guys attend Jays games together over various seasons. My friend Dallas and Allan were in Geddy’s “In the Action Seats” for Verlander’a no-no in 2011. Geddy’s was on tour and had given his tix to his brother and they were texting back and forth during the game - Geddy not believing that he was missing the first no-no at Rogers Centre! Geddy’s brother is behind the guy holding up his phone and Dallas is to Geddy’s brother’s right.

irv 02-03-2019 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by baseball tourist (Post 1851287)
I’ve convinced myself that it there is too much uncertainty around the authenticity of the ball (oh, and that it is already many $1,000’s out of my collecting budget :)) to bid.

While I want to believe that all parties are telling the truth, the fact that one can still purchase a MLB authenticated, game used ball from the 2015 Post Season from the Jays for under $50, and remove the sticker, swapping it out for the actual ball (keeping said HR ball) and selling the dupe with the offered after-the-fact notarized statement - I just can’t feel comfortable.

Here’s my 2015 Post Season game ball from the Jays. I paid $37 for it 6 months ago.

I wasn't aware of any of that. I see this morning it sold for $28,000. That's a lot more than I thought it'd sell for.

Hopefully, as said, Geddy Lee won it so it stays in Canada.
https://torontosun.com/sports/baseba...tion-nears-end


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