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That's an interesting one.
The extra ink isn't from overinking, but it is from a dry plate. The areas on the plate that aren't supposed to print retain water which rejects the oil based ink. If it's a really dry day, or if the water to moisten the plate isn't adjusted correctly some of the small areas can dry out making them retain ink. (If it's really bad the larger areas can dry out too. ) Steve B |
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Evers and Camnitz
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George Gibson. Picked this up a few days ago. Thought about this thread and the scratch tracking.
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Re: Plate scratches
I didn't see any Kleinows when I scrolled through the thread. Curious that the mark appears to end at the diagonal lines under the word "subjects". Might this mean that the card was in the far right column (as you're viewing the backs) of the sheet?
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I already had this Wilhelm scratch documented but there is another one listed
on ebay and I noticed they both have a yellow circle on his hip above the W after checking scans of 200+ Wilhelm's I only found one more with this yellow circle but there was no back scan (the second one in the cardtarget link). http://www.ebay.com/itm/T206-1909-11...item35f00ed1d7 http://www.cardtarget.com/cgi-bin/gm...submit=Display |
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With the evidence we have gathered so far we know there are 4-5 different
PD 150 sheets that have "plate scratches" on them, two of the back sheets had two different sets of fronts printed on them the remaining 2-3 only had one set of fronts printed with their back plates. Mordecai Brown (Cubs On Shirt) was on one of the sheets that had two different fronts, there are three different M. Brown scratches and there was one Johnny Kling scratch that matched one of the Brown scratches. I put together a list of what I call "unconfirmed" scratches which included the two missing Kling scratches that should match M. Brown. After three years of searching I found one of the Kling's that matches one of the Brown scratches, it even has the same squiggle mark. |
Excellent work Pat, you've made some great progress on this project.
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Pat has gone far far beyond what I'd ever imagined was possible. Truly amazing.
To make it more interesting......I finally saw a card that really looks like one of the scratched plates was either reworked or wasn't resurfaced all that well before having the P350 backs laid down. And that at least two groups of fronts were printed with this reworked plate. Charles http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=19015 Delehanty portrait http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=19013 It appears to be the same scratch as one on Powell in the P150 series. Steve B |
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I didn't want to hijack Mike (bocabirdmans) thread on the BST. He has a
Wilhelm for sale with a plate scratch that shows how consistent not only the scratches on the backs are but also how consistent the fronts can be. Here's the example I have with the same plate scratch as Mikes, when you look at the front of mine you would think the dots coming from his nose and mouth area are stains but if you look at the one Mike has for sale it has the same exact marks along with identical defects in the top right border. |
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From the BST. Pretty cool.
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