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Sean Listed here are the 9 subjects in the 460-only series printed with PIEDMONT 460, Factory #42 backs. My theory (which has stood the test of time) is PIEDMONT 460, Factory #42 and El PRINCIPE de GALES cards are Mutually-Exclusive in the 460-only series. So, I guarantee you that you need not search for a Merkle with an EPDG back. 460-only Series......9 subjects with PIEDMONT 460, Factory #42 backs (COMPLETE). None of these are found with EPDG backs. 460-only series PIEDMONT 460, Factory #42......9 subjects (COMPLETE) Chase (Trophy) Latham Marquard (follow thru) Merkle (throwing) Schlei (portrait) Schlei (batting) Schaefer (Washington) Seymour (portrait) Wiltse (portrait-cap) Conversely 460-only series El Principe de Gales................37 subjects (COMPLETE) Abbaticchio (blue sleeves) Ball (Cleveland) Bell (follow thru) Bergen (catching) Bescher (hands over head) Bridwell (portrait-cap) Camnitz (hands over head) Camnitz (arm at side) Chance (bat) Crandall (portrait-cap) Devore Duffy Larry Doyle (portrait) Ford Frill Gandil Geyer Herzog (Boston) Howell (hand on waist) Hummel Lake, St. Louis (ball) McGraw (portrait-cap) McGraw (glove at hip) Meyers (portrait) Murray (portrait) Needham Oldring (batting) Overall (blue sky) Payne Pfeffer Schulte (back view) Sheckard (glove) Smith (Brooklyn) Stovall (bat) Tannehill (Chicago) Tinker (bat on shoulder) Wheat TED Z . |
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I did a bit of research, and am fairly confident that Factory 17 was in Richmond, VA, on "Tobacco Row". In an article written Sep 12, 1908, in Tobacco Leaf, Volume 45, Page 32, it mentions this: "The Federal Cigar Co's plant, which recently closed down several weeks ago, has resumed work. This plant was formerly known as the Whitlock branch of the American Cigar Co. Here Beaux Arts, a little cigar, are made as well as El Principe cigarettes and other brands." El Principe De Gales is also mentioned by name in full, a bit earlier in the article. I have not yet found anything which specifically says that the P. Whitlock Branch of ATC is Factory 17, just that the branch was in Richmond and produced EDPG. |
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Update on the previous .... I did find, on cigarhistory.com, mentions of The P. Whitlock Branch and it being Factory 17. It mentions that OVC, another tobacco brand, all carried a Fact. 17, 2nd Dist. VA" designation until 1920, when it then changed to read "Fact. 17, VA." |
Jason
I really appreciate your information regarding Factory #17. Thanks much, TED Z . |
Show-n-tell us of your T206 Run(s)
OK, let's try this T206 " Run Fun " one more once.
Here is an incomplete run of my favorite Cobb. I have no expectations of completing this run. But, I just enjoy the thrill of the hunt. http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ffAB460x50.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...sHand50xbx.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...DMILLx50_1.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...LDMILLb25x.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...NT460x50xx.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...P460x25b_1.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...0TyCobb50x.jpg.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...yCobb50xbx.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...tcap42ovpt.jpg TED Z . |
Show-n-tell us of your T206 Run(s)
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http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...duAB460x13.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...raphicbldg.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...EPDGxOMx13.jpg Pictured here are the 6 toughest backs that were printed on the Exclusive 12 cards And here's my Russ Ford back run from the Exclusive 12 group with a bit of trivia included...... Ford holds a pitching record that I'm quite certain has never been equalled. Most games WON in his rookie season (26-6) in 1910. Furthermore, a total of 48 games won in his first two seasons. OK, I need UZIT and EPDG to complete this 13-card run. http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...2FordRHx50.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...FordRHx50b.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...SCxOMxTolx.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...vSCxOMxTol.jpg Factory #42 http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...2ovptPBx25.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ovptPBx25b.jpg Factory #42 Factory #30 http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...Cfactory30.jpg TED Z . |
Tinker Bat Off -- Just 1 away
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After finally locating the SC 360,25, I am now one back (AB 460) from completing a T206 back run of the Tinker Bat Off pose (I threw in a few T213s for good measure). It all started when i picked the Uzit up at auction and went from there. Thanks to Adam (who got me the Pied Fact 42 (real rare!!), Zach (who helped me with both this and my Evers Yellow Sky run), Mac (who sold me the SC 350, 25 -- surprisingly very tough to find), and Michael, Derek, Sean and many other Net54 members who have kept eyes out for me.
Now, who has my T206 Tinker Bat off AB 460???!!!! |
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Do you have or are you going after one of the factory 30 scraps? these are not my cards Attachment 292011 Attachment 292012 |
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