1965 Topps #2

There's a dotted slash by Cowan's name on back, and I recently found this one that also has a red line below Aaron's picture. I assume it is some sort of cutting indicator, but most copies of this card off-center to where this would be visible do not have this line.

Just started going through a 5K box of 70's commons and found these. I'm not sure if they're recurring or if they have been posted in this thread.

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77 Topps Hartzell and Flanagan

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I received this in yesterday's mail. It was after our mail carrier delivered a 1953 Bowman Pee Wee Reese to the wrong address. This happens OFTEN with mail. Our street has a similar name to a street a couple of blocks over so I guess it requires a PhD to get it correct. It is laughable that they have to send people like me (and the other person) this sticker to put in my mailbox to tell the carrier to make sure the mail is correct. Does anyone else have an stories similar to this?

At first I assumed this was some sort of postal variation

I like the 75 Foli. Topps seemed to soak cards with an extra blue layer over everything, but the heavy smears like this are one of my favorite defects.

This is recurring, I have seen others, so I do not think it is some kind of damage to the team name.

I don't know if this was a recurring problem or not, I have not seen another one so I wouldn't call it a RPD right now. The ink smearing bleeds through to the back. I'd love to see another one.

This version of 1961 #520 Joe Cunningham, with what looks like a red apostrophe after "Joe", is tougher than the card without it, but is found without a lot of trouble. There's some on eBay right now.

In hand, examining up close, it really looks like an apostrophe and not stray ink. If it was an apostrophe that was then removed, it would be a 'true variation'. If it is not and just looks like one, it would be a 'recurring print defect'. I needed it either way.

I found this Mike Phillips in my 77 Topps

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and while looking for others like it I found this "checkered" variation, I couldn't find any others so I'm not sure if it could be the scan (it doesn't seem like it is) has anyone seen any other 77 Topps with this?

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yes, this leader card is at the bottom of one slit on the 1st series printing.

1961 Topps Norm Larker #130

Top of card can is found with missing blue ink (sky) due to a horizontal white bar. I believe later in the print run they attempted to disguise this by washing out the sky and making the top all white. Or it could just be less blue ink?

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Good one Joe

Just bought this from fellow board member. Not sure if it has been posted before or not, The red line in bottom below glove is not common but not scarce either


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I consider different stocks to be a variation, and so this isn't a RPD for me, but I think many of you guys are doing RPD's and not doing stock variations. You pick if this counts :D

I think every white back card of Alston has this frame gap in the top left, and all the cream back cards don't have the gap. The cream back is a little easier in series 1 but the white back/frame gap card isn't difficult at all. I'm pretty sure this is a clue to which stock was the initial run, I have most of series 1 with both backs but haven't finished hunting down all the RPD's with both backs and observed enough to know if they probably don't exist with a certain back. I do think Alston here implies that the two stocks were not done at the same time.

#197 Dick Selma can be found with this little mark at top from the printing sheet, if it is cut off center a little bit (not all cards with more space at top show it, actually very few of them do). I wouldn't technically consider this a recurring defect or a print variation, but it seems close enough to note and the kind of thing we like here. It was worth .50 to grab one and add a notation in my spreadsheet.

Just checked mine. As you said, the white back has the notch, cream back does not.

Mike

I generally pursue stock differences if recognized in the Standard Catalog or by PSA. But for 68 while I did the MB set I have not pursued the other back color differences in that set. I gave up on 1991 Topps a free pursuing different backs for awhile. I know there are many differences in many sets but at my age I am starting to wind down on the pursuit of variants. However I enjoy seeing all the stuff you and others post here

Thank you! I'm pretty sure it works this way but then again lots of cards I don't expect to exist end up cropping up

I've been doing the completely arbitrary and personal 'I collect a stock variety if it is apparent enough at a glance that I can tell in an eBay listing which version it is without zooming in'. I skip the superstars, getting a second Joe Sparma for thirty nine cents on COMC is a fun cross-off on my checklist, paying for another Hank Aaron isn't really worth it to me.

I'm getting pretty deep into the Milton Bradley's, mostly stuck on the 22 Hot Rod cards in the set. They aren't any rarer, but people just don't bother to sell them since they aren't worth much. I need the Ryan still....

This one is interesting, to me anyway. Bowman 1950 cards 181 to 252 can be found with or without the copyright on the back. Cards with no copyrights are tougher, and no copyrights from 181 to 210 are very tough to find.

Card 245 Papai can be found not only with copyright and without, but also with a blue arc on the bottom front. The arc versions are scarce but occur on both the copyright and no copyright versions, which is what I found interesting.

I think Thomas may have posted the arc version previously

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Found another one, the one on top here with a blue scribble mark in the same spot. There's at least 5 distinct versions of Boyer's card, possibly more.

I have no idea if this card has been mentioned on this thread...if so, I apologize. It's quite the long thread now...:)


Thumbing through my 63 Topps set I noticed my #68 Friendly Foes had a large yellow ink blob...so I looked through ebay and other sites and pored through a bunch of cards and did find ONE other with the same blob...kinda cool to see a matching card. So I assume there are others out there.

Here is my card -

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Here is the card I found on ebay with the same ink markings...

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Cool card regardless...thought I'd share...

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Nice find John, haven't seen that one before, thank you for sharing.

Thanks Larry and great cards Greg. They were pretty sloppy with the yellow ink there!

Al...did you already know about this one? Cool to see another example...

I looked to see what I had after your post. No recall when I picked it up

This one (yellow blob) has probably been mentioned before (recurring), but I had one, so there. :p

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Print variation (I think). Definitely crease variation 😂

There is a term used for that with comic books that I can't remember. That card sat in a pile of other cards like that for a long period of time, most of the card was protected by whatever card was on top of it but the parts of the card with the discoloration were sticking out of the pile exposed to the elements but not sunlight. ETA, it finally came to me, it's called a dust shadow.

Bob's yellow blob on a Buy Back card


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1969 Series 1 Cklst #57 D. McClain Back Dots
 

While searching for the McClain collar speck variation I ran across two back print variations of that card.

Both are print dots on the left side of the cards in two different places. They are on their way to me now.

On a related note, I am not finding it easy to find a Lonborg no red flag stripes example. Every one I see has red stripes in the flag to a differing degree But none have no red in the stripes. Maybe I am looking at this variation a bit wrong.

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B.T.

And NOW my 1973 set is complete
 

I snagged a 73 Al Kaline band-aid head this morning. He is soft around the corners, a bit bent, a bit creased, but all mine. Woot!!!!!

Butch...congrats on the band-aid Kaline...I saw that one, not a bad deal...and yours!


Going through and organizing some of my 70's doubles I came across this gem...can't imagine it's recurring but kinda a cool cyclops version! Yikes!


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Wooo, sweet card. That’s all Juan would have needed is a third eye.

Freaky looking for sure.

Thanks for the congrats on Mr. band-aid head… I’m jazzed to finally have one.

1966 Topps Sutton
 

After seeing the Marichal card, I had to post this 1966 Sutton card. Note the nice eyebrows.

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The pornstache on Sutton is awesome, I don’t think he ever sported facial hair.

I’ll take ‘players who have lost their focus’ for $500, Al. :D

Show...me...your print variations!
 

From the front, they look the same. But flip them over and you’ll see the difference…

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Milt was double printed but based on the location of the “flag” this would have had to have occurred on the sheet with Jim Wynn #395 directly above and Dock Ellis #528T adjacent as seen in my poor drawing. I could not find any examples of the other two cards with print variations on back. Maybe your luck is better than mine?

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Joe W., that looks more like the tentacle of an octopus extending over the back of poor Milt May's card.

I can see that. Or the tail of a tadpole.


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Bought a 71 set from the same seller Darren bought his WL Pirates team card from and found this 582 WL card.

To quote Darren directly from his post in the May PU thread "It's a true variation, as it is not sun faded or missing the yellow ink from the entire card, and looks identical to all of the other Pirates Team cards from that year (with obvious yellow usage throughout) with the exception of the color of the word "PIRATES.""

This Cash card would carry the same description.

Unfortunately, the Pirates TC is more of a "yellow-lessing" version (faint yellow letters). With the Clemente card, the letters are as white as the Cash card, however, there appears to be a yellow print line of sorts on the lower, far right part of the card's image....almost like the yellow run did not make it across the entire card just along that edge of the image.

Been gone awhile, so it's good to see that Cash card. Great pick-up!

It's strange with these sorts of things, because although your eyes, scans, pics, photoshop level adjustments, etc., tell you it is, in fact, missing the yellow in the word "PIRATES," you (at least I) still search for a reason to conclude it is not an actual variation. Such is the depressing life of an E&V collector.

Thank you, and yes, after seeing one in hand I agree it could be easy to dismiss this as an actual variation....clearly not though.

I wonder if these WL cards are only seen on Pirate cards in this series?, on Pirate cards in other series also?, or other cards from other teams in this series?

My last question is why have these WL Pirate cards not surfaced previously....was the source a hoarder?

Nice - you got one!

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PSA is now recognizing the bandage variation - there’s a “6” listed as an auction on eBay. I have a cross-over to send in now, and yet again PSA has figured out how to get more of my $.

While looking through 1967 Topps 6th Series cards I figured there had to be some cropping difference on the #531 Checklist (Brooks Robinson) because it was printed on the 6th Series sheet and the 7th Series sheet. I found at least one, on the 6th Series sheet card there is a small gap between Robinson's chin and the black line, on the 7th Series sheet card Robinson's chin barely touches the black line with no gap.

At least I don’t have to go out and get one of these 😊

How many checklists, if any, from 1960 to 1973 have only one version

Until recently, I would have answered this question saying that the 1971 Topps Coins checklist would be one, but I would have been wrong. However, this checklist card appears to be the answer to the following question: "Which checklist appears in two non-consecutive series?".

The 71 Coin checklist appears on the 2nd and 4th series sheet. Any other checklist cards that appear in multiple non-consecutive series?

To answer your question Al, I have always felt that the 61, 63, 64, 66, 68-72 1st series checklists, as well as all 73s have one version.

I think I have differences for 61, 64, 66, 68, 69, and 70. What I thought I remembered for 73 was actually the 2nd CL

61— names and boxes at different heights ?
64— box 44 can have a line and box 14 a dot
66– Merritt can have a botched M and spacing difference of card # to bottom
68– CR location difference ?
69– McClains collar and USA on back with or without periods
70– 226 Peranoski-with or without . after P

Pursued this kind of stuff in my younger days. Can’t see well enough anymore so have to rely on you guys and threads like this one ��

For the '67 checklists (and other things), check out this old thread:

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=207639

Al is correct on all of these.

The 1963 Topps 1st series checklist also has variations. The front can have a black line top border or not. The size of the box on the reverse with the card number "79" can be a square or rectangle. The copyright wording is is also lower/higher.

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Hey Mike. Agree on 63. I have one version with a black line under the red box on front, one with yellow line and one with no line. Registration differences probably, but also box size shape differences on back.

I should have known it has been discussed before, I even responded in that thread but have absolutely no memory of it.

I need to recheck but think I have 2 versions of CL 2 from 73 ( likely just a PD). I think it involved the Bonds card

On the 63 CL 1 the box differences are subtle. I think the easiest way to spot the 2 is the location of the CR to the top of the box

1956 Variation
 

There are at least 5 variations of this card:

1. Blue background
2. White background
3. Blue background with overprint from the back of the card in the upper left
4. White background with overprint from the back of the card in the upper left
5. Blue background with white splotch above the “e” in Zuverink with overprint from the back.

There may be other permutations of these variations. The amount of the overprinting varies. All of the 5 varieties I’ve found are common.

A few years ago I was all psyched, because I found a new variation - a red streak on the 1972 Topps #300 Hank Aaron 'In Action' card that was a continuation of the one found on a small amount of #306 Boswell IA cards. I had parades planned, the bakery was making me a celebratory cake, etc., and then BOOM!!! I was told that this version was reported many years ago and could already be found on many 'official' variations lists. I still ate the cake. I mean, I'm not an animal.

Good to know I am not the only one!!

I had a couple of Zuverinks but did not realize there were so many different versions

I believe that leaves 70 and 71 1st series without a known variation. I have neither as having a variant in my custom checklist (besides that the 70 comes in very obviously different white or cream stock, like every card in the series).

Ralph Nozaki, Dick Gilkeson and Richard Dingman all list a variation of the 1970 series 1 checklist as either the player's bat touches the top border or does not touch. Here are my 2

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Sweet, one more to track down.

It should be easy.

Mike

A variation that isn't....
It's in the registration, red is printed slightly high on one.

1950 Topps new variations
 

Hi Gang:

I think these are "new" unlisted 1960 Topps variations of the same card #74 Walt Moryn

First is what appears to be the most common version with a white "butterfly" on the brim of his cap.

Second is another of outside of the box photos with his elbow being partially outside the box on the small photo to the left

Lastly is a non "butterfly" on his brim.

Looking on ebay the white butterfly seems by far to be the most common. There are some without the butterfly but in much smaller numbers

The elbow out I have only seen in the butterfly version and much smaller that the above two.

I appreciate it when you guys educate me on a new one and it is a cheap first series common player like this.

Intersesting 1970 Topps
 

Interesting printing error. Two distinct white lines top and bottom border far left. Another pair of white lines bottom border between the letters T & F.

Yes, I was the one who posted this. I realize it is impossible to show the front vs. back since scanning does not work that way, but I azure you that this is accurate.

Since those 4 are mine, which I hunted down after Thomas posted his. I agree the defect can be ground on cards with either back. Reminds me of the 52 Yellow Tiger House that can be found on both the regular and scarce grey back versions

Well that just makes me blue..... :D

78 Niekro - seems to be an uncorrected print defect. I looked through a couple hundred examples without a correction.

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Found a 1964 topps 127 with ……..3 versions

1…..Heavy ink over flow
2……light ink over flow
3…..regular version

Sorry one without blob

Looks like there is a second gray blob over Simpson's name and position as well. I found several online, so it looks like this Gatewood variant isn't too tough to locate.

I recall there are other 'fairly large blob of one color with scribble looking mark of another color in the center of it' cards in 1961 Topps. Haven't seen this one before and don't see another. Anyone know of another copy?

Now that I'm posting it I notice it appears the black border at top left is misshapen. Will have to see if that's on them all.

Just discovered an interesting “print error” (?) from one of those 80s Junk Era cards…does this have any value? Has anyone else seen this on Topps cards?

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Buddy is currently available at a bargain price on ebay :)

I assume that’s a polite way of saying “nice try, but no payday.”


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