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Cliff Bowman 12-08-2023 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tedwilliams1918 (Post 2395530)
I have 13 1958 mantles with the error on back now, it’s taken me almost 4 years to get this many

It's impressive to have found 13 of those, let alone own 13 of them :cool:.

savedfrommyspokes 12-09-2023 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman (Post 2395553)
It's impressive to have found 13 of those, let alone own 13 of them :cool:.

Well, I don't possess any copies of this card. But at least now I know why.
Quite impressive!

ALR-bishop 12-09-2023 09:22 AM

I am happy with my one, and one each of the related 58 back defects Cliff helped me find or get. Still might need one. Need to recheck Cliff's list.

I do not see them getting hobby recognition as variations since I think most view them as just fairly scarce back print defects. I think it does help they extend to several cards and not just the Mantle. But when I bought mine the seller viewed it as a defect that lowered the value of the card.

I do think Cliff's posting of the Mantle back and it's relation to the defects on several other 58 cards has given them some hobby recognition, at least among the weird group of us that follows this thread

I wish Ted good luck in getting these defects greater hobby recognition so that he can cash in on his hoard. It does show that they are not rare

Tedwilliams1918 12-09-2023 11:29 AM

The dynamics on error cards is very odd

The best I can say is the sooner in the hobby it was found the more value and “respect” it gets

I have been a huge error nut for the last 6 years and for a new find this mantle checks all the boxes(if it was found 40 years ago it would be one of the biggest cards in the hobby)

Alan I talk about it all over Facebook to get new people interested me and you own them plus 3 other known guys, the 3 other guys who own them paid 4x 5x what a normal one is worth and there’s about 30 other mantle nuts who badly want one that don’t own one….think of how long it will take for 30 of them to get one probably 15 years at this pace….I’m also gonna throw as much money as I can at it when it comes to this card I have more money than brains🤣🤣.

It’s interesting to me that there is way more demand for it from guys who do mantle runs that include every mantle vs the tiny market of guys who collect errors like us

It’s probably the same population wise as 1958 pancho herrer-a but it’s on the most popular card in the hobby

As far as for hobby recognition I think within 10 years Psa will recognize it after years of high sales on eBay that will eventually be too much to deny how special it is

Tedwilliams1918 12-09-2023 11:36 AM

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Here’s another I recently found, 1954 bowman mickey mantle with that white cloud line, but I can tell this one will never bring a premium though it’s considerably rarer than the no cloud line 1954 mantle….there’s probably 40 50 of them for every 1958 I see….so I just need 1 for my collection 😂 😃😃

Tedwilliams1918 12-12-2023 02:31 PM

Awesome, did one of you guys buy the 1954 psa2 mantle with white cloud line for $1000? It’s the last error I discovered….but don’t own one yet still need 1

ALR-bishop 12-12-2023 03:58 PM

Not me. I checked the one in my set and it it just a boring regular one.

On my Topps sets I like to add recurring print defects. For my Bowman sets I generally stick to recognized variations. As Inspector Callahan observed, a guy has to know his limits

Tedwilliams1918 12-13-2023 07:00 AM

For my sets now, none are complete I just buy the hofers and any error I deem worthy lol

wpeters 12-15-2023 04:03 AM

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These two beauties were in a lot I bought recently.

ALR-bishop 12-15-2023 02:30 PM

Good ones


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