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jefferyepayne 04-14-2024 06:29 AM

Very nice, Mark! Congrats.

jeff

Exhibitman 04-18-2024 07:18 AM

Gotta wonder how that came about. Not exactly two guys you associate with one another.

jefferyepayne 04-18-2024 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 2427541)
Gotta wonder how that came about. Not exactly two guys you associate with one another.

Why?

jeff

cfhofer 04-19-2024 07:39 PM

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Maybe a picture of the book cover will help….

CardPadre 04-19-2024 08:11 PM

I’ve seen this 1956 Lejano Oeste #158 (passing) sticker/whatever in PSA slabs but had never seen this #157 (rushing) sticker anywhere, didn’t know it existed until I saw this album.

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Leon 04-21-2024 05:52 PM

a kind of beat up postcard..

https://www.luckeycards.com/thorpe.jpg

cfhofer 04-22-2024 11:33 AM

Neat postcard Leon. Thanks for sharing!

Exhibitman 04-22-2024 04:35 PM

1953 Esso

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Roadrunner 06-25-2025 10:14 AM

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Jim Thorpe's roommate aboard the Finlandia en route to the 1912 Olympics was John Oliver Johnstone, at the time the youngest athlete to participate in the Olympics (20 years old). I recently met with Johnstone's granddaughter, who said as the youngest of the group, he was the one who had to bunk with Thorpe. He was harassed by others on the ship for this, but developed what became a life long friendship with Thorpe and was an adamant supporter of reinstating his medals. I was told the bib in the image below was the one Johnstone wore for the Olympic high jump where he placed sixth. Comparing it to photos of bibs from the Olympics, however, I am doubtful this hand drawn number is the real deal. The program for the tryouts at Harvard runred41 posted above lists his number as 91, so it couldn't be the one worn for the trials either. Does anyone here think it's possible this could have been worn at the Olympics, or is it just family lore? I imagine if there is a program the bib numbers may be listed, and perhaps get me closer to a conclusion.

Brent G. 06-25-2025 03:21 PM

Does anybody know runred41 in this thread? Looks like he hasn't been on since last year. He's got some great stuff I'd like to talk to him about.

runred41 06-25-2025 06:53 PM

I know runred41! Feel free to send me a message if you'd like.

Roadrunner 06-26-2025 06:38 AM

To correct the historical record as reported in my post above for those who are interested:

John Johnstone was not Jim Thorpe's cabin mate for the entire trip, if he was for any portion of it. Abel Kiviat, generally documented as being Thorpe's roommate, in a 1984 interview with the NY Times described Thorpe being assigned to a different stateroom after arriving. See the link here: https://www.nytimes.com/1984/01/13/s...ne-regret.html

The important line being, "Thorpe was assigned to Kiviat's stateroom for two nights until: "Let's say he got very happy, and they moved him down the hall, away from young guys like us.""

Also, the contemporary claim that Johnstone was the youngest to compete in the Olympics to 1912 is again disproven by Abel Kiviat. Johnstone was born in January 1892 and Kiviat in June.

butcher354435 07-10-2025 10:07 AM

Here's a card I've posted before but I was able to add an exciting piece a couple of years ago. What I believe is a Type 1 Brown Brothers photo that was used when creating the card. The card is from the Capital Candy & Cracker issue out of Sacramento, CA and based on the 1912 Olympics. To date, this is the only copy known to exist to the best of my knowledge. The set is very rare with an incomplete checklist and last time I did any research only 10-12 subjects have been check listed.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/201243...es-R70h3jKjRz/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/201243...es-R70h3jKjRz/

jefferyepayne 07-20-2025 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by butcher354435 (Post 2526643)
Here's a card I've posted before but I was able to add an exciting piece a couple of years ago. What I believe is a Type 1 Brown Brothers photo that was made when creating the card. The card is from the Capital Candy & Cracker issue out of Sacramento, CA and based on the 1912 Olympics. To date, this is the only copy known to exist to the best of my knowledge. The set is very rare with an incomplete checklist and last time I did any research only 10-12 subjects have been check listed.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/201243...es-R70h3jKjRz/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/201243...es-R70h3jKjRz/

Very very cool Brent! As you know, I covet that Thorpe card, and this type 1 photo is also awesome.

jeff

Leon 07-20-2025 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by butcher354435 (Post 2526643)
Here's a card I've posted before but I was able to add an exciting piece a couple of years ago. What I believe is a Type 1 Brown Brothers photo that was made when creating the card. The card is from the Capital Candy & Cracker issue out of Sacramento, CA and based on the 1912 Olympics. To date, this is the only copy known to exist to the best of my knowledge. The set is very rare with an incomplete checklist and last time I did any research only 10-12 subjects have been check listed.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/201243...es-R70h3jKjRz/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/201243...es-R70h3jKjRz/

Neat card, Brent. DO you remember when you gave me some toothpaste at the National, about 17? yrs ago? BTW, Capital Candy, also made this 1913 set...
https://luckeycards.com/hunc1913oaks.jpg

Brent G. 07-20-2025 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by butcher354435 (Post 2526643)
Here's a card I've posted before but I was able to add an exciting piece a couple of years ago. What I believe is a Type 1 Brown Brothers photo that was made when creating the card. The card is from the Capital Candy & Cracker issue out of Sacramento, CA and based on the 1912 Olympics. To date, this is the only copy known to exist to the best of my knowledge. The set is very rare with an incomplete checklist and last time I did any research only 10-12 subjects have been check listed.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/201243...es-R70h3jKjRz/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/201243...es-R70h3jKjRz/

My goodness — that’s amazing.

Swadewade51 07-24-2025 09:12 PM

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butcher354435 07-28-2025 10:55 AM

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Neat card, Brent. DO you remember when you gave me some toothpaste at the National, about 17? yrs ago? BTW, Capital Candy, also made this 1913 set...
https://luckeycards.com/hunc1913oaks.jpg

Haven't seen that issue before Leon. Really cool. Thanks for sharing. And yes, I remember now that you mentioned it. lol

Brent G. 07-29-2025 05:11 PM

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Hello all — wanted to post this for the Thorpe collectors out there. I picked this two-sided signed photo up. I’m having a custom card made from the signature on the back and am having the front made into a cut — both going to PSA upon return.

I know this one doesn’t match most of Jim’s exemplars. I had a local Thorpe collector say it was good (noting the "Good" was a specific match), was hoping to hear back from another on this thread. Please let me know what you think -- thank you!

Brent G. 07-29-2025 10:48 PM

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This from a 1952 cut on PSA’s site convinced my amateur eye it looked good — seems he rarely added this:

Brent G. 08-18-2025 09:59 AM

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I've been putting in some work to build up my Thorpe collection. Found some great deals over the past month!

I currently have the custom card and the cut signature in the post above at PSA for authentication.

jefferyepayne 08-18-2025 07:52 PM

Nice! Been working on my thorpe collection as well

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...-gm?authuser=0

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jeff

Brent G. 08-19-2025 08:19 AM

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Awesome! Is that a voted-on all-American team or one that actually played? And is that Portland a photo or postcard?

jefferyepayne 08-19-2025 01:05 PM

It's the lineup of the 1916 Canton Bulldogs showing their name, position, and former college affiliation. It is a premium that was published by a newspaper in 1916, honoring the pro champs.

The other Thorpe item is just a photograph from his 1922 season when he played baseball in Portland.

jeff

Brent G. 08-19-2025 01:44 PM

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Next up is an original Postcard of Thorpe posing at the Hensel studio in Carlisle, PA.

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Remake of postcards of the homecoming at Carlisle. Pierson K Miller was a councilman in Carlisle, PA who made these reprints happen. Anybody know anything else about them?

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Cards numbered 2000, 100, 50:

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Is it known which came first -- the Hensel or the Olympiska Spelens postcard?

Brent G. 08-25-2025 01:37 PM

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Got a great deal on these as a single lot on eBay.

Brent G. 09-03-2025 08:54 AM

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Got this for the collection. 1916 Indiana Yearbook when Thorpe spent one season as an assistant coach. As you can imagine, he was heavily featured including a two page spread. Attachment 338538Attachment 338539Attachment 338540Attachment 338541Attachment 338542Attachment 338543Attachment 338544

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Many thanks to Casey for giving me the honor of being the new owner of this great Indiana University yearbook featuring Jim's one season on campus. As a Bloomington native and Thorpe collector, it's pretty much the perfect piece for me.

Brent G. 09-09-2025 01:55 PM

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Hello all — wanted to post this for the Thorpe collectors out there. I picked this two-sided signed photo up. I’m having a custom card made from the signature on the back and am having the front made into a cut — both going to PSA upon return.

I know this one doesn’t match most of Jim’s exemplars. I had a local Thorpe collector say it was good (noting the "Good" was a specific match), was hoping to hear back from another on this thread. Please let me know what you think -- thank you!

Just got notification that the front cut signature here was authenticated by PSA. If anyone is interested, I plan to post it on the board once it arrives in the mail.

Brent G. 09-11-2025 01:22 PM

Jim Thorpe PSA/DNA certified cut signature now available in the B/S/T: https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=364715

Brent G. 09-11-2025 01:32 PM

Cut sig is SOLD.

ahmanfan 09-11-2025 01:35 PM

That sold fast!


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Brent G. 09-11-2025 01:53 PM

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That sold fast!


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That's for sure! The eBay market claimed it first, I'm afraid.

Brent G. 09-24-2025 02:28 PM

This 1931 W-UNC went past where I wanted to spend for that condition -- will be interesting to see where it ends up: https://sports.ha.com/itm/non-sport-...kedLots-101116

Brent G. 09-29-2025 09:51 AM

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This 1931 W-UNC went past where I wanted to spend for that condition -- will be interesting to see where it ends up: https://sports.ha.com/itm/non-sport-...kedLots-101116

$3,416! That's in the neighborhood of a PSA 4 1912 Olympiska Spelens postcard. I think we can say the Jim Thorpe hobby is alive and well!

jefferyepayne 10-08-2025 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Brent G. (Post 2541235)
$3,416! That's in the neighborhood of a PSA 4 1912 Olympiska Spelens postcard. I think we can say the Jim Thorpe hobby is alive and well!

Love it! For a while, I was working on a run of different sizes and colors of these. Keep those Thorpe prices rolling.

jeff


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