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BTW I saw Magic in college in 1979. It was like seeing the game through new eyes, he just played it in a way I had not seen before. I had a similar experience seeing David Thompson as a freshman, he had an unreal height on his jump shot and at least on this afternoon was just drilling everything in sight, scored 40.
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As for Doncic, he's made 1st team All NBA two of his first three years. Lebron and Magic never did that. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk |
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My then girlfriend, who was visiting from out of town, did not want to go. I was like, if a 6 foot 9 point guard they call Magic is in town, you don't pass up the chance to see him. |
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The only person I see casting insults in this thread is you. I gave my opinion on Luka vs Morant. You are more than free to disagree with me. Again, I really don't care. But let's not pretend like I'm the one in here calling you names. |
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OK, let's get this straight. I said you were a "highlight reel watcher" who doesn't really know the game of basketball.
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I'm also looking forward to the series they're putting together on HBOMax, about the showtime Lakers. Should be a great watch. |
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Here's another Magic you don't see every day.
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It’s a lot sexier to have a hot commodity that is active and can present volatility based on their current greatness. It’s always been the saving grace for modern card collecting. Vintage is like owning real estate. Modern is your crypto
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The Vintage would rather showoff a Bizzarini or a Ferrari 250 GT California |
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I just watched Doncic play the Pacers and it's no wonder he plays well as many times as the refs let him get away with walking. A LOT of players could be better than they currently are if they got away with what Doncic did tonight.....
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The refs do not let Doncic get away with anything, let alone walking. It is well known that they are overly harsh on him. The refs HATE Doncic. He complains way too much. He's one of the biggest complainers in the league. The refs are out to get him. This is a well known fact to anyone who pays attention to the NBA today. It's one of his biggest criticisms and probably the biggest flaw in his game.
The entire league "walks" with the ball nowadays. At least if you're coming at it from prior standards. Just watch Giannis euro step his way to the rim with ONE dribble from half court (literally). They've gotten pretty liberal with the definition of traveling. It's just how the game is played today. |
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I have no comment on Luka because I haven't watched basketball in years. |
To me, the NBA has been rigged for years. Certain players (usually with big shoe contracts) get calls (or not) that other players do (or don't).
Doncic carried the ball once last night and the refs didn't call it. Later, he carried the ball again and was caught. He cried almost as much as LeBron cries. Later, he walked and the refs didn't call it. Three obvious travelling violations and only one is called and Doncic cried about it. This is why I don't watch any NBA games other than when the Pacers are playing. David |
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Thats been the case forever. Look at the last last shot Jordan took against Utah--he basically shoved the defender to the ground (watch the hand on the hip) to clear his shot. Anyone not named "Jordan" gets a whistle.
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Saw one!
I saw one of these rare cards at the mall show in Portland yesterday.
A collector buddy who deals with these high end shiny basketball had just made a big acquisition. Some Blue Prizm sumthin that he said was worth 20k. So I asked him about Doncic and he did say that Luca was the best player in the league. And the potential to be an all-time great as long as he didn’t get hurt. I wonder if he had an incentive to say that…considering what he was holding. But I did explain that my collection of old baseball cards features guys that don’t have to worry about a knee or Achilles injury, since they are already dead. |
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These younger and current players could lose value overnight by an injury, some political whatever, beating their spouse/ significant other, dog fighting etc..no bueno. I’m sticking to the “real estate “ from now on. |
This thread has gotten off the rails a bit. To bring it back home some - I have a 13 year old who is real into modern, especially basketball and football and he likes “busting wax”. He asked to make a deal that if he made honor roll, would I get him a “good” wax box of cards. I asked him what “good” meant, and he considers “good” to be $500+. I told him I would be very proud if he got honor roll but there is no way I am buying him a $500 lottery ticket. I told him I would get him a card - at least that way we know he had something, rather than a chance at something.
Based on this thread, and although I consider all modern effective lottery tickets, we got a Ja Morant card. He appears to be 20% of the price of Doncic and based on this thread, he appears to be better than 20% the player. I think it’s a waste, but if my kid studies harder, keeps developing a work ethic, and has scholastic success, then that’s enough upside for me |
Well done. I've given my sons a card for Christmas each year since the 90s. Sometimes it was Kris Bryant but other times it was Mike Trout. They both still have them all and overall their collections have done well. Now I have started with my granddaughters haha.
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Strange, I thought this Forum was all about prewar baseball cards.
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Feel free to educate yourself. If you'd like to. Or just continue shitting on those who already have and pretending you know what you're talking about. |
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It looks like the gather rule is from 2016. I'd be shocked if that move was not technically travelling in 1998. Then again, no referee is going to call it on Michael Jordan in that circumstance so it might as well be legal.
Interestingly, in the documentary Jordan denied he pushed off lol. But maybe there is a contrarian take on that? Like Russell was trying to get the foul call? I don't know it doesn't seem likely he would have flopped in that circumstance. |
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Jordans hand may have touched Russell, but it couldn't possibly be what sent Russell to the floor. Jordan crossed him up. It was Russell's own momentum that took him down. It wasn't a flop either. I get that the hand looks deceiving, but if you try to imagine how much force could have possibly been generated by Jordans hand in that instance, it couldn't have been much.
Try to look for the other angle of the play. The one from the side. It shows it better. There is no pushing off at all. He barely touches him. |
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