1943 San Diego Padres Program
 

I picked up this 1943 San Diego Padres Program. Very happy to add this to my collection:

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Kevin ..Nice Padres program the accordian style are so fragile it is nice to find them like yours in great condition. . I picked up a 1924 Yankees at Red Sox opening day program. It is the 3rd Yankees opening day I picked up in the last year I also got a Yanks at Washington 1941 which was Scooters debut. And a Yanks at Phila 1946.

Did anyone else see / Bid on any of the scorecards in Goldin's last auction? The Highlight was an 1896 Temple Cup program that I was underbidder on. I was talking on the phone when time ran out but I only had one more bid in my budget. I did get an 1895 Baltimore and a 1914 World series program ( at Philly). 14 was a 4 game sweep for Boston so a tough program. I will post pics when they arrive..

That's a nice haul of opening day scorecards!

As Promised Here are my two newest scorecards in my collection. First an 1895 Baltimore scorecard vs St Louis with McGraw Keeler Kelly Robinson and Jennings. Oh and Connor playing 1st for St.Louis. 12 pages total mostly ads but 2 player pics Scored for the 2nd game of a Double header on September 2nd 1895.
The second is a Game 1 1914 World Series program at Philadelphia. 1914 saw the First 4 game sweep in World series History. From what I was told many years ago it is a fairly scarce program. Filled with pics of the home team Athletics including starting pitcher for game 1 Chief Bender, as well as Eddie Plank Eddie Collins Frank Baker Herb Pennock. Evers and Maranville both started for Boston.

Just acquired yesterday…. 1919 World Series program from game one. This program was there when the Black Sox made their dubious mark in baseball history!

Those World Series programs from 1914 and 1919 are incredible.

Love those 1919 World Series Programs!

Now, to cap off a fantastic 2023 Indy 500, here's a fairly common program, but one that I've been looking for in fantastic condition for some time. Finally found one last week, complete with the insert sheet listing participants and their starting positions!! Mario Andretti was the winner in 1969, and I hope to get it autographed one day.

Nothing historical happened on this date at Yankee Stadium (Aug. 8 1971).

However it was the very first game I saw in person. My father (who wasn't a baseball fan) knowing I was an Orioles fan, took me & my sister to it for my 10th birthday..

My program from the game is long gone, but I had searched eBay for a long time & I finally located a scored copy (now I just need to find a stub to go with it):

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Sound pretty historic to me!

Thanks Doug! I can still remember walking through the concourse & up the ramp to see the field for the first time & seeing how green the grass was.

That green grass against the backdrop of the blue outfield walls is my greatest memory of the stadium.

Hi all

As some of you are aware, I am a massive lurker here. In fact, I have been since prior to 2009 on the “old” chat forum. I have an interest in Yankees 1920s & 1930s but very much from a cultural more than a sporting perspective. My main interest is soccer; it is a large part of my life and my soccer memorabilia collection is pretty decent.

I thought I would share a program (or programme as we call it here in UK) from a soccer match in November 1933. It is Ambrosiana-Inter versus Juventus. Across the two teams, these players represented the backbone of the Italy side that would win the World Cup in 1934. In particular, Inter had Meazza. He would captain Italy to their 1938 World Cup victory and, globally, is probably the most iconic player pre World War Two.

I post these photos as an Inter fan and season ticket holder. Tonight we play in the Champions League here here in Instanbul (where I am posting). It is a rare to very rare program.

More generally, I wanted to make a comment about program collecting. In the UK, this was the main collecting theme for decades; at least in relation to app soccer which is the primary sport here. An equivalent to card shows, we had programme fairs which were attended by hundreds and sometimes thousands of enthusiasts through the 1970s to 1990s. I attended my first Northern Ireland National Football Programme Fair in 1986 - it was the fourth year of the fair and it still is held today, albeit with less attendees. In fact, other than during COVID, it has been run every year since 1983.



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Here is my lone program. 1947 Ebbets Field Program with Philadelphia visiting. Recently added it for part of my Jackie display.

I believe I was able to pin-point the game on baseball reference. It was a little difficult to nail down because the last inning wasn't filled in so I couldn't use the final score. But I compared the pitchers marked and determined it to be this game.

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[QUOTE=Ulidia;2346704]Hi all

As some of you are aware, I am a massive lurker here. In fact, I have been since prior to 2009 on the “old” chat forum. I have an interest in Yankees 1920s & 1930s but very much from a cultural more than a sporting perspective. My main interest is soccer; it is a large part of my life and my soccer memorabilia collection is pretty decent.

I thought I would share a program (or programme as we call it here in UK) from a soccer match in November 1933. It is Ambrosiana-Inter versus Juventus. Across the two teams, these players represented the backbone of the Italy side that would win the World Cup in 1934. In particular, Inter had Meazza. He would captain Italy to their 1938 World Cup victory and, globally, is probably the most iconic player pre World War Two.

I post these photos as an Inter fan and season ticket holder. Tonight we play in the Champions League here here in Instanbul (where I am posting). It is a rare to very rare program.

More generally, I wanted to make a comment about program collecting. In the UK, this was the main collecting theme for decades; at least in relation to app soccer which is the primary sport here. An equivalent to card shows, we had programme fairs which were attended by hundreds and sometimes thousands of enthusiasts through the 1970s to 1990s. I attended my first Northern Ireland National Football Programme Fair in 1986 - it was the fourth year of the fair and it still is held today, albeit with less attendees. In fact, other than during COVID, it has been run every year since 1983

Well it is nice to know that collectors around the world accross many sports collect programs. If your programme fairs are anything like ours then they are filled with tables stacked with prime items and under the table and stacked behind are cardboard boxes filled with publications. Index fingers quickly flipping through the offerings looking for either something on the want list or a rare gem to be pulled unexpectedly. Thank you for sharing.
Jonathan

[QUOTE=bigfanNY;2346802]It's interesting that you mention Program fairs because today, at a card show, I heard a rumor that there is going to be a "Ticket Convention" held at a place that is supposedly close to the same location in which our National Sports Collectors Convention will be held. Tickets have become more popular as memorabilia items over the past few years; I hope people catch on to programs and scorecards like they did with tickets. Then maybe we'll have more item-specific shows, or at least we'll have more people bringing more programs, scorecards and tickets to card shows!

Koufax vs Gibson 1962
 

Chapter 1: The setup -
on May 25, 1961, 6,878 spectators attended a Thursday night matchup between Koufax and Gibson at St. Louis.

Tommy Davis, starting at third base and batting fifth, struck out his first two times at the plate. In “Stranger to the Game,” Gibson said, “I had been striking him out with sliders low and away, and I seemed to have the edge on him.”

Gibson was on a roll, having retired seven consecutive batters, when Davis led off in the seventh inning.

“I had noticed that, as I continued to pitch him outside, Davis was gradually sneaking up toward the plate,” Gibson said. “He was practically on top of the plate, and so, out of duty, I buzzed him inside with a fastball.

“I don’t know if he was setting me up, but he must have been looking for the fastball on his ribs, because he backed off a step, turned on that thing, and crushed it over the left field fence.”

In the book “Sixty Feet, Six Inches,” Gibson said, “I think he was just waiting for me to bring one inside, and I was still young and dumb enough to oblige him.”

Cardinals catcher Hal Smith told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, “The pitch Davis hit wasn’t even a strike.”

The home run into the bleacher seats in left-center broke a streak of 20 consecutive scoreless innings for Gibson and was all Koufax needed. He pitched a three-hit shutout for a 1-0 victory. It was the first time Koufax pitched a complete game against the Cardinals.

Chapter 2: The scored program below -
A year later, on June 18, 1962, Gibson and Koufax engaged in another duel before 33,477 attendees on a Monday night at Dodger Stadium.

Through eight innings, the Dodgers’ only hits were two singles by ex-Cardinal Wally Moon. Koufax limited the Cardinals to five singles.

The game was scoreless when Davis batted in the bottom of the ninth with one out and none on.

“Smart guy that I am, I remembered that Davis had beaten me the year before when I stopped pitching him outside and came in with a fastball,” Gibson said in “Stranger to the Game.”

“I thought, ‘Now, he remembers that I remember that pitch inside, and so he’s thinking that there’s no way I’m coming inside again in this situation. Just to cross him up, I’m going to do it again.’

“So, I threw the fastball inside again, and goddamn if he didn’t hit it out again to beat me. I learned right then that the dumbest thing you can do as a pitcher is try to be too smart.”

With the count 1-and-0, Davis told the Post-Dispatch, he was looking for a fastball. “Gibson had been getting me out on breaking stuff,” Davis said. “He was throwing the fastball when he got behind.”

Davis’ walkoff home run deep into the bullpen in left gave Koufax and the Dodgers another 1-0 victory. It was the first time Koufax pitched a complete game without allowing a walk.

“There are instances, as Tommy Davis taught me twice over, when a pitcher can think too much,” Gibson said in “Stranger to the Game.” “That was a hard lesson for me.”

In “Sixty Feet, Six Inches,” Gibson said, “It was a textbook case of overthinking. Dumb, dumb, dumb. Worse yet, I went against my better judgment. When I started winning big was when I stopped doing stuff like that.”

Doug, you have this one?
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GREAT story and a neat scored program, Rick! Love it ;)
Thanks for sharing. :cool:

I agree with Scott, GREAT story and program Rick.

I'm almost embarrassed to say that I have them both.

Doug "almost, but not quite" Goodman

I love the cover art on that 1962 program, Doug!

SHOCKER, Doug! :rolleyes:
I thought you might own them both... :D

Thought you probably did have it Doug, but was hoping I could inch you closer to your goal. Unfortunately, that is my only scored program of a Koufax game.

Rick

I appreciate the try Rick.

I'm still looking for scored Koufax programs for 49 wins, 37 losses, 2 saves, 46 no decisions and the 1966 AS Game (don't like the ones I've seen enough to pull the trigger).

Scorebook from some of the earliest basketball games (1896).

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Rob That is a VERY nice score book. Have you identified the teams that played in the games scored?

New Rochelle, New Britain, a YM Club, a YMCA club and HAC which I believe is Hartford Athletic Club. The New Britain club was by some considered to be the 1896 champs. One of their players, Loomis, is thought to have been the first to dribble a ball.

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Recent online auction find.

I love lots of the artwork on the vintage Tigers scorecards and programs. Same goes for their pennants. Whenever I have an extra Tigers pennant from the 40s, 50s or 60s to sell at a show, it goes very quickly.

Another online auction find.

The 1981 World Series program had 6 autographs, which was a nice surprise.

+1.great background stories

Thank You for sharing

NEVER be embarrassed by your passion, you will be embraced by those think like you.....and then you will think/say....."its nice to be here"

In 1946, Bob Feller famously teamed up with Satchel Paige to go on a barnstorming tour after the season ended. (Technically it was after the regular season ended but the WS was still going on... it would be another year before the WS was televised and the rest of the country could watch it.)

Feller and Paige rented planes and toured across the country, even stopping in Versailles, KY, the home of commissioner Happy Chandler, as part of his convincing the commissioner to allow the extended tour.

Towards the end of the tour, Feller and Paige split up for a few games while they were on the West Coast. At that time, Feller paired up against a team whose leader had just won the International League (AAA) World Series with the Montreal Royals. Feller played 3 games against the Jackie Robinson All-Stars.

This program is from one of those games. The fan taped a clipping from a newspaper which captures the details, and Robinson is seen batting second. Stan Musial was in the other lineup, as this game was played after the World Series had concluded.

Fantastic program, Jeff!

AWESOME! Congrats Jeff, very cool. :cool::D

Most excellent, congrats. Love the Barnstorming programs!

Those are great! I know the Pete Gray tour was 1946. Do you know when the rest are from?

I think I have it written down with the programs, just have cover scans. Let me check!

Here are a few more.

Recently traded for this Ali-Frazier 1 program and was surprised to find the signature of former VP Hubert Humphrey on the scoring page ...

100 years old...

Washington DC Bicentennial Game 1932 featuring HOF Walter Johnson
 

One of my favorite pickups from the National in Chicago is an unusual exhibition scorebook that I had never seen that has some interesting historic significance.

Monday, August 15, 1932 was the Bicentennial Anniversary of Washington DC.
Virtually all MLB baseball teams did not play on this date.

To commemorate the Washington DC Bicentennial, a special Exhibition game was played that pitted members of the 1924 World Champion Washington Nats team that included HOF Walter Johnson and Goose Goslin vs. the current 1932 Washington Team managed by WaJo.

WaJo pitched some of the innings for the 1924 World Champion squad and Marberry pitched the rest. Alas, the upstart 1932 Washington team best the 1924 Champions 6-2 in the game.

Here are some pictures of the scorebook which is remarkable shape considering it's over 90 years old.
I included a closeup of the inside of the scorebook that highlighted the individual significance of WaJo's only win in the World Series in a terrific HOF career.

Enjoy!

One of my favorite barnstorming programs. Was from a Paige/Feller All-Stars dual in 1945, and this one featured Jackie Robinson not long before he signed his contract with the Dodgers.

In an interview after the game, Feller expressed skepticism that Jackie was a good enough player to play in the Majors. The comment strained their relationship. (Info from Satch, Dizzy and Rapid Robert if my memory is not failing me.)

Sounds like Rapid Robert had a chapped ass after Jackie Robinson lit him up and went 2-4 with two doubles in the game! LOL :rolleyes:

I think this one is my favorite -- probably a top five game of all time, some might argue for the top spot. One of the greatest rosters ever assembled (and lest we forget the competition) -- and the background story is incomparable.

Game 7 of the 1937 Ciudad Trujillo tournament.

Yup!

Bob Feller related 1936 Iowa State Amateur Baseball Tournament scorebook. Playing against much older seasoned ballplayers was a 16 year old high schooler named Bob Feller. This was the tournament at which Feller was "found" by superscout Cy Slapnicka. He was signed shortly after. The scorebook was the official scorers book kept by the Iowa Amateur Athletic Association's State Chairman Joe Campbell. Feller's team of farm boys ended up winning the tournament against many of the well sponsored city boys. Feller was probably 8 - 10 years younger than most of the participants.

In the tournament, Feller pitched 27 1/3 innings, had 49 strikeouts and gave up 14 hits, 10 walks, 4 runs (1 earned run). The only earned run was on a home run.

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More Barnstorming programs
 

Jeff's posts motivated me to scan some more of my barnstorming program covers...here are a few more.

Here are a few

Hi Scott, very cool scorecard. I handled a number of these as a collector and dealer, and of course always thought they were great, with the '24 Nationals playing the '32 team in a full game! What that had to do with George Washington I can't tell you, but so cool nonetheless. And historical in the sense that this was the last game Walter ever pitched for Washington, albeit an exhibition.

No new scorecard to show at the moment, but definitely something about scorecards to talk about...

I noticed that one company that grades comic books had been grading and slabbing Sports Illustrated mags for some time, much like comic books. But I had never, until very recently, noticed that they are also grading and slabbing scorecards! Perhaps I have been living under a rock for some time! When did any company start doing this?

I have not noticed many examples of graded/slabbed scorecards. Those that I've seen I've just happened to stumble on by chance (one that comes to mind is up for bid in an auction I was browsing through earlier today). But the things that I found most amazing are that 1) there was no description by the TPG as to whether the scorecard was filled out, and 2) the grading system has nothing to do with how a card might be graded. The grading system seems pretty lenient compared to cards, as no torn/tattered card I have ever seen would escape with a grade of 3. But for scorecards, it looks like a whole different ballgame. I also wonder whether the lack of mentioning of scored vs. unscored is a statement to the effect that it doesn't matter, although all scorecard collectors will tell you that they'd prefer a scorecard that is neatly scored vs scoring done with very poor penmanship and that is unintelligible.

So...the million-dollar question would be whether the majority of scorecard collectors will now make a move to grade and slab at least some of their scorecards if the pricing is not too outrageous. Of course, while the right slabbed scorecards may bring top dollar, the trade-off would be that a collector would no longer be able to experience the enjoyment of opening and gazing at the inside of that scorecard again.

I'm with you on that one!
Why would you slab a scorecard that allowed you to view all the pages and content?
That's beyond me... :rolleyes:

It shocks me that people slab comics the way they do, but it is clearly a huge market.

I cannot tell you how many times I have lit up with joy reading something in a scorecard or program. Stories cheers songs, scorecards are priceless moments in time.... but it dose increases the value by multiples. So as long as I dont have to sell them I am gonna keep reading them.

+1

Yes, and actually, unless the scorecard is marked on the front or back cover, not being able to view the pages inside can leave everlasting doubt as to whether you actually have the scorecard you believe you have in that slab!

Same here. I don't have an extensive collection but most of my comics are not slabbed, and I regret buying the 3 #1's that I did happen to buy already slabbed! I'd like to read them!

The scorecards that are actually program/scorecards are neat little time capsules that I also enjoy thumbing through. And in some cases, you lose a lot by simply not being able to hold them and feel the paper. As an example, I have several scorecards from the WWII era, and there's just a different feel to them that you can't experience if they are slabbed.

One of my favorite parts of the hobby is flipping through old scorecards and the like.

Couple of exceedingly rare ones:

- 1945 GI World Series - Played in Nurmberg with Hitler's bunker in the background. I'm sure only a tiny number made it back to the US.

- Jackie Robinson All-Stars Program - All Robinson All-Stars programs/scorecards are rare. But 98% of them were a standard design for the whole tour. This one is specific to a particular game.

Portland Maine Exibition game scorecard
 

I picked this recently a 1935 Charity game between the Pirates and the Braves. Played on June 21st 1935. Literally in the middle of the season. The Pirates played a few games in Boston and then both teams traveled up to play this game. Lots of Hall of Famers and I collect Baseball items from Maine.. Portland Maine to be specific. My Grandfather played breifly in the Eastern Leauge in 1928 a few games with Portland then a few with Worchester Mass. My holy grail item is a scorecard with him listed.

Nice piece, Jonathan, and good luck with your search!!

Amen, I LOVE to follow the scored program and watch baseball history reveal itself......GREAT job and keep up the passion !

This was the Bicentennial of the birth of George Washington, not of the District of Columbia. The District of Columbia was created January 5, 1792. It is something I need to know for some of the legal research I do in D.C.

Thanks Michael!
BTW, Hank Thomas shared the same info with me, so I stand corrected.
Certainly, an interesting reason to celebrate a bicentennial (?), but pretty cool nevertheless...

So I was thinking a bit more about why tickets seem so much more desirable than scorecards and programs...

Tickets take up less space, that much is true. But as others have mentioned when considering whether or not they might get their scorecards or programs slabbed if they had the opportunity to do so, you'd miss out on all the great content. In this case, the content, at least in older programs, includes photos (sometimes early photos) of the players that are playing. Tickets can be ornate and some will have a specific player on them, especially season tickets printed in the last 30 years or so, but half of my tickets have no images. So it's just tough to figure out why there is such a disparity in pricing between programs and scorecards/program. I can't imagine that for any given game, more scorecards/programs were saved than tickets.

Many of the pre World War Two World Series programs are items of absolute beauty. The Cincinnati 1919 issue above is a case in point but also the Subway Series of Yankees & Giants 1921 to 1923 (and same format for Yankees vs Pirates in 1927).

New York Giants issues of 1910s are particularly attractive and way ahead of their time. Boston Braves, Brooklyn Dodgers also had stunning World Series programs in this era.

Just an opinion, but I actually believe that more scorecards//programs were saved.

Have you ever noticed how many earlier vintage scorecards have a vertical crease running down the middle?
Male fans frequently folded the scorecards in order to stick them in their breast pockets. This would allow them to pull them out during the game and also bring them home.

Regular gameday tickets not so much, as they were often tossed as trash based on what I have observed in my lifetime.
Notable exceptions would include playoff games, World Series and All Star Games IMHO.

I definitely agree with Scott about Tickets being easily discarded especially early Baseball and Basketball stubs. Most were very simple versus the scorecards and programs which were larger and attractive. Also being small and not always easily identified many were dropped in Drawers or in scrapbooks only to be discarded after the original attendees passed on. Many of the best stubs I came across were removed from scrapbooks.

Now I know this thread is dominated by Yankee and Dodger fans, but on the off chance someone who collects scorecards is a Giants fan I have these two Minor Leauge scorecards from the 1950 Trenton NJ Giants with Willie Mays playing Center Field for the Giants. One is a home program the other away playing the Lancaster PA Red Roses. Mays signed the away and the home is signed by 4 players 3 I have identified Bob Myers Eric Rodin and Boetto, the Forth looks like Duffy Dyer ( catcher for the Mets ) but no idea why he would be on there? ..

Here's a neat program for an event that welcomed Ted Williams back from Korea toward the end of the 1953 season.

And because of that, here is a Pirates game at the Polo Grounds where Tom Hafey (cousin of Chick, brother of Bud) made his MLB debut for the Giants, and hit his first of six career homers.


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And here's the Phillies winning the Opening Day game of the 1915 season, in Fenway versus the Braves.

I have the same GI World.Series scorecard with the September 2 date, indicating it was from the opening game.


I have this one from the preceding series, the 7th Army Championship.

Here's a Brooklyn scorecard I just picked up, with Matty pitching for the Giants. According to my research, it's from the game that Mathewson notched his 265th win and 2,000th strikeout.

Thought it was appropriate to post this here...Decided to part with my 1923 Yankee Stadium Opening Day Program...in REA now.

https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...?itemid=164601

Sarno I remember when you got it, figured you would always have it & pass it down
.....along w/ my old Yankee Stadium seat;)

A wise man once said, "We don't own these things...we just hold them for a while."

The seat will get passed down :)

He sounds like a genius

Funny, his name is Jay also. What a coincidence :)

Clemens 20k game in 1986
 

With a stub...

Just picked up a nice little scorecard that has evaded me the only 2 times I'd seen it available. It's from a game in which the military all-star team faced off against the A.L. all-star team, which had previously beaten the N.L. all-star team the day before to gain the honor of playing the men on the Services team. For this reason, and because it featured stars like DiMaggio and Williams playing for the A.L., and Feller pitching for the military all-stars, it is generally regarded as one of the more notable exhibition games to raise money for the war effort.

Curiously, I received this ticket with the scorecard. I've seen tickets for reserved seats before, and they have info about the game being played that day, but I've never seen a bleacher seat associated with that game. That's probably because it has no identifying features. And so...like so many other tickets that accompanied scorecards and programs but have no identifying features, absolute proof of the game it admitted it's fan to does not exist unless the team itself kept careful records of the tickets. That seems doubtful!

For some reason, one of my pics did not load. Here's a pic of the cover of the All Star game between the Service All Stars and the A.L. All Stars. I neglected to mention in the above post that the game was played at Cleveland Stadium on July 7, 1942.