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nebboy 01-04-2017 01:25 PM

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You mean this one! Nice crack out and sold as unaltered

nebboy 01-04-2017 01:27 PM

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oh the write up.

PhillipAbbott79 01-04-2017 01:39 PM

I just checked the comments and it appears as though someone is recommending calling the police in their location. Do you think local law enforcement has any ability to do something about the problem?

Leon 01-06-2017 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by PhillipAbbott79 (Post 1617141)
I just checked the comments and it appears as though someone is recommending calling the police in their location. Do you think local law enforcement has any ability to do something about the problem?

I believe someone that this seller defrauds has a chance of getting their own law enforcement involved as, generally speaking, it is local law enforcement that is supposed to protect you. We can only hope so. I have spoken with authorities about them but I am not a victim and the authorities I spoke with aren't the perfect ones to help.....

irv 01-07-2017 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillipAbbott79 (Post 1617141)
I just checked the comments and it appears as though someone is recommending calling the police in their location. Do you think local law enforcement has any ability to do something about the problem?

I was just going to post that. I also noticed her % went down again. Hopefully those that phone the police have good luck.

Negative feedback rating DISGRACEFUL! SOLD CREASED AARON RC MULTIPLE TIMES, DENIED KNOWING - LOOK IT UP! Buyer: c***r ( 1001Red star icon for feedback score in between 1,000 to 4,999) During past month Feedback conversation
HANK AARON 1954 TOPPS #128 - RC - MILWAUKEE BRAVES - BREATHTAKING!!! SHARP!!! (#132026823580) US $2,034.00 View Item
Negative feedback rating Card came back as trimmed from PSA. Seller is pawning off altered cards NM + Buyer: t***c ( 1144Red star icon for feedback score in between 1,000 to 4,999) During past month Feedback conversation
HARRY HINCHMAN 1909-11 T206 #214 - TOLEDO - NRMINT+ STUNNING!!! (#132015013085) US $113.50 View Item
Negative feedback rating Photoshop Stain Removed. Pure Fraud. Calling Police in Dothan AL. DO THE SAME. Buyer: g***e ( 304Teal star icon for feedback score in between 100 to 499) During past month Feedback conversation
Reply by battlefield0516 (Jan-04-17 08:45):
Card is professionally graded a 1 by PSA and was delivered exactly as pictured.
TY COBB (PORTRAIT RED) 1909-11 T206 #98 - DETROIT TIGERS - PSA 1 - MUST SEE!!! (#132018141441) US $744.00 View Item
Negative feedback rating Trimmed Card. Pure Fraud. Calling Police in Dothan AL to report. DO THE SAME. Buyer: g***e ( 304Teal star icon for feedback score in between 100 to 499) During past month Feedback conversation
Reply by battlefield0516 (Jan-04-17 08:47):
Card has NEVER been professionally graded by myself or the buyer. This is false.
CY YOUNG (GLOVE SHOWS) 1909-11 T206 #525 - INDIANS - BREATHTAKING!!! SHARP!!! (#391638255190) US $922.09 View Item
Negative feedback rating Doctored Image. Giant Crease. Pure Fraud. Calling Police in Dothan AL to report. Buyer: g***e ( 304Teal star icon for feedback score in between 100 to 499) During past month Feedback conversation
Reply by battlefield0516 (Jan-04-17 08:46):
Card is professionally graded a 3 by BVG & crease was described in auction text.
TY COBB (PORTRAIT GREEN) 1909-11 T206 #97 - TIGERS - BVG 3 - VERY GOOD!!! (#391638258548) US $1,902.77 View Item

Andrew1975 01-07-2017 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1617676)
I believe someone that this seller defrauds has a chance of getting their own law enforcement involved as, generally speaking, it is local law enforcement that is supposed to protect you. We can only hope so. I have spoken with authorities about them but I am not a victim and the authorities I spoke with aren't the perfect ones to help.....

If I'm not mistaken, investigating a criminal act such as fraudulently representing an item for sale in eBay, would involve federal criminal code (interstate commerce), and would therefore be the jurisdiction of the FBI or another federal LE agency. Local LE might be the right place to start, though, as they would be able to make the necessary notifications.

Edwolf1963 01-07-2017 07:55 PM

Fraud
 
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Originally Posted by Andrew1975 (Post 1618211)
If I'm not mistaken, investigating a criminal act such as fraudulently representing an item for sale in eBay, would involve federal criminal code (interstate commerce), and would therefore be the jurisdiction of the FBI or another federal LE agency. Local LE might be the right place to start, though, as they would be able to make the necessary notifications.

Isn't it a shame that we talk about local law enforcement getting involved, the FBI, other federal protection agencies, etc. - and the one entity it should start with - eBay - doesn't do a damn thing about it.

Leon 01-09-2017 03:25 PM

Eventually they might but this seller also sells a lot so ebay probably doesn't want to lose the revenue.

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Originally Posted by Edwolf1963 (Post 1618219)
Isn't it a shame that we talk about local law enforcement getting involved, the FBI, other federal protection agencies, etc. - and the one entity it should start with - eBay - doesn't do a damn thing about it.


PhillipAbbott79 01-09-2017 03:35 PM

I believe that they chalk it up to margin of error. "The seller has a 98.5 percent satisfaction rate, and the 1.5 percent that are not satisfied ave issues which are generally solved quickly and without a hassle from the seller, so there isn't any point in looking to see if some of these negative claims are actually happening. With high volume there are always going to be some people that are not satisfied."

It just happens to be all of the high dollar cards.

In speaking with some other people, it appears that the seller claims that the description is accurate. For instance, a card may have a crease. The image does not show the crease, but the description says "light creasing" so there is no harm done. The description was accurate.

Now the buyer looks at the image which almost always does more justice than a description and thinks "OK. Light creasing. I can't see the crease. Man this is a nice card. I think I will buy it."

Republicaninmass 01-09-2017 03:53 PM

I've been noticing with a few sellers, their negs have been disappearing.

As well as this new "Revised Feedback: 122" battlefield has

PhillipAbbott79 01-09-2017 06:39 PM

Marrying two threads together, since PWCC seems to have some influence with Ebay, and claims to be a conduit, perhaps they can assist in ridding Ebay of this person or at least getting an official response to the problem that can be shared?

Republicaninmass 01-09-2017 07:05 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Scammer <a href="https://twitter.com/RickProbstein">@RickProbstein</a> has wiped out 500 negatives in past 12 months. Here's most recents: <a href="https://t.co/K4k9hj42hP">https://t.co/K4k9hj42hP</a> Keep watching! CORRUPTION <a href="https://t.co/fXdIE5wXXT">pic.twitter.com/fXdIE5wXXT</a></p>&mdash; NewsBALL Inc (@NewsBALLinc) <a href="https://twitter.com/NewsBALLinc/status/818636394880872448">January 10, 2017</a></blockquote>
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PhillipAbbott79 02-18-2017 07:38 AM

It appears that now they are at least putting in their auction description that their cards may be trimmed. Finally, they are waking up to the reality that a full court press about their illegal actions may have repercussions.

motorcitybaseball 02-18-2017 02:52 PM

Con artist that Ebay is well aware of
 
I purchased two t206 cards as nm+-mt

I sent both into psa and both came back as trimmed.
She never responded to my messages and took almost 2 months for Ebay to refund me. I was never refunded the money to have them graded. A couple weeks later she re listed the same 2 cards I bought again as nm+-mt and sold them to the next guy

Leon 02-18-2017 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by motorcitybaseball (Post 1632702)
I purchased two t206 cards as nm+-mt

I sent both into psa and both came back as trimmed.
She never responded to my messages and took almost 2 months for Ebay to refund me. I was never refunded the money to have them graded. A couple weeks later she re listed the same 2 cards I bought again as nm+-mt and sold them to the next guy

Please read the bold letters at the top of each page that says if you give an opinion your full name needs to be in your post. After this one please make sure you adhere to it (as everyone should). Since it's just battlefield we can turn a blind eye on this one :). They deserve to be piled on.

Aquarian Sports Cards 02-18-2017 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1632706)
Please read the bold letters at the top of each page that says if you give an opinion your full name needs to be in your post. After this one please make sure you adhere to it (as everyone should). Since it's just battlefield we can turn a blind eye on this one :). They deserve to be piled on.

One could argue he offered no opinions.

PhillipAbbott79 02-18-2017 03:45 PM

Yes. It appears more of a historical account of what happened to him than an opinion.

Leon 02-18-2017 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillipAbbott79 (Post 1632735)
Yes. It appears more of a historical account of what happened to him than an opinion.

He is making accusations. I won't get into semantecs and if I need to I just go to our rules page and pull this puppy off of there, which has been posted for years...

**Since there are an unlimited amount of unforeseeable issues that can arise on the board, the moderator may make any decision he feels is in the best interest of Net54baseball, regardless of any written or oral rules.

and I should mention that my litmus test for the name rule is if something being said was about me would I want to know who said it? I have a low threshold of wanting to know too. Same rules for everyone in this respect. All board members, and others, should get to know who is saying something about them when it is said on this chat board, imo.
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CMIZ5290 02-18-2017 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillipAbbott79 (Post 1632735)
Yes. It appears more of a historical account of what happened to him than an opinion.

So what does this all mean pertaining Probstein (AKA Mr. Big)? It seems like we have been singing this song for quite a while, but I would love to hear a fresh perspective...How has he wiped out 100's of negative feed backs and got away with it?

Leon 02-18-2017 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CMIZ5290 (Post 1632745)
So what does this all mean pertaining Probstein (AKA Mr. Big)? It seems like we have been singing this song for quite a while, but I would love to hear a fresh perspective...How has he wiped out 100's of negative feed backs and get away with it?

Are you posting in the wrong thread? :)

Aquarian Sports Cards 02-18-2017 04:19 PM

Just playing Devil's advocate Leon, not in any way giving you grief.

Leon 02-18-2017 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 1632753)
Just playing Devil's advocate Leon, not in any way giving you grief.

No worries, in all of the years the rule has been there it has probably been invoked 1-2x. It just has to be there, trust me :).

irv 02-26-2017 10:36 AM

Just scrolling through E-Bay looking at 52 Topps cards and I notice, none other, than battle-hatchet with a new pile of them.
Of course, everyone looks to be in gem-mint 10 condition so I decide to write her this.
Not sure if I'll get a reply, but I am hoping so, just so I can read it and share it here. :D

Dear battlefield0516,

Based on your feedback, can you please send me the real pics/scans of this card.
I don't want to purchase it only to find out, like so many others of yours, that your pic has been doctored.

Thanks for your understanding.


GIL COAN 1952 TOPPS #291 - SP - WASHINGTON SENATORS - PHENOMENAL!!! SHARP!!!

GIL COAN 1952 TOPPS #291 - SP - WA
Current Bid: US $1.25
Auction ends Feb 28, 2017 00:48 EST
Bids: 2


Place bid

Yoda 02-26-2017 11:49 AM

I keep wondering where her "wonderful" raw cards come from, unsuspecting old-time collectors enticed by her high offers, or more likely possibly buying Authentic graded cards, breaking them out them and then putting them up for auction with mucho hyperbole and possibly 'photo shopped as well. She is clearly a volume dealer and Ebay obviously appreciates that.

TheNightmanCometh 02-26-2017 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by irv (Post 1635578)
Just scrolling through E-Bay looking at 52 Topps cards and I notice, none other, than battle-hatchet with a new pile of them.
Of course, everyone looks to be in gem-mint 10 condition so I decide to write her this.
Not sure if I'll get a reply, but I am hoping so, just so I can read it and share it here. :D

Dear battlefield0516,

Based on your feedback, can you please send me the real pics/scans of this card.
I don't want to purchase it only to find out, like so many others of yours, that your pic has been doctored.

Thanks for your understanding.


GIL COAN 1952 TOPPS #291 - SP - WASHINGTON SENATORS - PHENOMENAL!!! SHARP!!!

GIL COAN 1952 TOPPS #291 - SP - WA
Current Bid: US $1.25
Auction ends Feb 28, 2017 00:48 EST
Bids: 2


Place bid

I would be shocked if you got a reply. Battlefield is famous for not responding to messages.

Paul S 02-26-2017 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TheNightmanCometh (Post 1635608)
I would be shocked if you got a reply. Battlefield is famous for not responding to messages.

Plus the fact that it might be naïve to think she doesn't read this thread.

irv 02-26-2017 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TheNightmanCometh (Post 1635608)
I would be shocked if you got a reply. Battlefield is famous for not responding to messages.

Me too, but I thought with it being Sunday and all, and with her being the Angelic type we have all grown to love, I thought maybe she'd bestow a reply upon me? :D

TheNightmanCometh 02-26-2017 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by irv (Post 1635618)
Me too, but I thought with it being Sunday and all, and with her being the Angelic type we have all grown to love, I thought maybe she'd bestow a reply upon me? :D

LOL, well, please let us know if she does. ;)

orly57 02-27-2017 12:58 PM

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Look at this gorgeous card! Currently at $1,636 with 26 bids.

Aquarian Sports Cards 02-27-2017 01:33 PM

one of the prettiest photoshops I've ever seen...

Snapolit1 02-27-2017 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 1635927)
one of the prettiest photoshops I've ever seen...

Colors are insane. . . . .

orly57 02-27-2017 01:50 PM

Well, it is slightly off-centered, so it's probably like an 8.5.

irv 02-27-2017 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheNightmanCometh (Post 1635704)
LOL, well, please let us know if she does. ;)

No reply yet, but as was mentioned in a PM, there is a good chance I am now blocked?
It will be tough sleeping tonight, for sure! ;)

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 1635927)
one of the prettiest photoshops I've ever seen...

I don't know the first thing about photoshopping, or how hard it is to do, but I will give her that. She is definitely good at it.

tschock 02-27-2017 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by irv (Post 1636016)
I don't know the first thing about photoshopping, or how hard it is to do, but I will give her that. She is definitely good at it.

Photoshop is a piece of cake! You just scan the cards, set the photoshop dial to "PSA-10", and you're good to go! :D

Of course, unless you're at a 10 and want to give it that little extra gloss. Then set it to 11. ;)

Leon 02-28-2017 08:20 AM

I think you are correct, in that since these are internet type crimes, they can have a federal jurisdiction. But local law enforcement is the place to start (and usually finish) with this type of crime. My only hope is that Battlefield is so pervasive the Feds would take a look. For them to get really involved there needs to be something worth their time, quite honestly. Generally a smaller ebay seller won't meet the FBI threshold for taking a case, from my informal, layperson understanding. And only 203 current chances at fraud here :)
http://www.ebay.com/sch/Battlefield0..._sop=10&_rdc=1

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Originally Posted by Andrew1975 (Post 1618211)
If I'm not mistaken, investigating a criminal act such as fraudulently representing an item for sale in eBay, would involve federal criminal code (interstate commerce), and would therefore be the jurisdiction of the FBI or another federal LE agency. Local LE might be the right place to start, though, as they would be able to make the necessary notifications.


ullmandds 02-28-2017 09:21 AM

I wonder if battlefield were a banner advertiser they'd get this much attention?

PhillipAbbott79 02-28-2017 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1636133)
I wonder if battlefield were a banner advertiser they'd get this much attention?

"would they?"

ullmandds 02-28-2017 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by PhillipAbbott79 (Post 1636138)
"would they?"

or if their behavior would just be dismissed with a chuckle and a smiley face like others.

bnorth 02-28-2017 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1636142)
or if their behavior would just be dismissed with a chuckle and a smiley face like others.

Obviously this.

Leon 02-28-2017 09:48 AM

ignorance is bliss....
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Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1636142)
or if their behavior would just be dismissed with a chuckle and a smiley face like others.


PhillipAbbott79 02-28-2017 09:56 AM

I guess the subtlety in my humor was completely missed.

ullmandds 02-28-2017 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1636147)
ignorance is bliss....

i suppose...especially when ignorance pays he bills!

Leon 02-28-2017 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1636153)
i suppose...especially when ignorance pays he bills!

All advertisers get, and have always received, the same scrutiny as every other company and everyone else in the hobby. Happy collecting....

irv 03-03-2017 07:40 PM

Is this what her cards look like before they are worked on, and if so, do you think she just forgot to do these ones or has she finally decided to play truthfully? :confused:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw...pps&_sacat=213

Sean 03-03-2017 08:08 PM

She couldn't fix that one, but she is still selling that trimmed Cobb Green. She sold it in January, but now it's for sale again. :rolleyes:

Aquarian Sports Cards 03-03-2017 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by irv (Post 1637424)
Is this what her cards look like before they are worked on, and if so, do you think she just forgot to do these ones or has she finally decided to play truthfully? :confused:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw...pps&_sacat=213

Those are the ones she uses to build her feedback. Be honest on 1,000 99¢ items so you can weather the storm selling fraudulent $10,000 items. Anyone else think feedback ought to be weighted by dollar amount?

PhillipAbbott79 03-03-2017 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1637436)
She couldn't fix that one, but she is still selling that trimmed Cobb Green. She sold it in January, but now it's for sale again. :rolleyes:

And it is back on Ebay again now.

Sean 03-03-2017 10:04 PM

That's one Cobb Green that won't hold its value. :D

irv 03-04-2017 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 1637456)
Those are the ones she uses to build her feedback. Be honest on 1,000 99¢ items so you can weather the storm selling fraudulent $10,000 items. Anyone else think feedback ought to be weighted by dollar amount?

Ahh, didn't know that she did that occasionally, but it does make perfect sense.

Paul S 03-04-2017 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by sean (Post 1637467)
that's one cobb green that won't hold its value. :d

lmao!!

Joshchisox08 03-04-2017 06:19 PM

Why doesn't someone volunteer and buy a card. Show the scan on the bay and then the scan of what you received :D

TK99026 03-05-2017 08:26 AM

Love the picture of Onslo...HAHAHAHAHAHA Get me another beer Daise

PhillipAbbott79 03-16-2017 06:54 AM

Anyone know if this is battlefield?

http://loveofthegameauctions.com/Gor...-LOT12288.aspx

pawpawdiv9 03-16-2017 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by PhillipAbbott79 (Post 1641694)
Anyone know if this is battlefield?

http://loveofthegameauctions.com/Gor...-LOT12288.aspx

Love the description that was given.

bobbyw8469 03-16-2017 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillipAbbott79 (Post 1641694)
Anyone know if this is battlefield?

http://loveofthegameauctions.com/Gor...-LOT12288.aspx

What would be funny is if Battlefield won the auction and broke every single one out of their case to sell raw again!!! She would be foaming at the mouth to get all those beauties again!

Aquarian Sports Cards 03-16-2017 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1641833)
What would be funny is if Battlefield won the auction and broke every single one out of their case to sell raw again!!! She would be foaming at the mouth to get all those beauties again!

Was thinking about the ethics of buying these and then selling them to battlefield lol.

VintageBen 03-17-2017 06:24 AM

Breathtaking T206 Green Portrait Ty Cobb.
 
Can we drain the Battlefield swamp already?

It's so phenomenal that previous buyer paid $3054 and said it was deemed altered/trimmed by PSA and seller didn't care

Green Portrait is posted again!!! Ughhhhhh

VintageBen 03-17-2017 06:38 AM

Ppl will still buy Battlefield's card and be happy if they were honest. Just seems like a waste of money shipping the same cards back and forth and refunding their money.

PhillipAbbott79 03-17-2017 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by VintageBen (Post 1641982)
Can we drain the Battlefield swamp already?

It's so phenomenal that previous buyer paid $3054 and said it was deemed altered/trimmed by PSA and seller didn't care

Green Portrait is posted again!!! Ughhhhhh

Then it sold for 4,000 plus and returned in record time. Just 10 days from the 4000 dollar sale and it is relisted again today. I believe this makes sale number 4 on this exact card, undoubtedly being told each time that the card was trimmed.

I am guessing that this card never actually left their mailbox and it was returned on feedback observances.

There has to be something that can be done about this person. This person takes a very smart and diabolical approach to their fraud.

Sean 03-17-2017 02:22 PM

Possibly the high bidder from that last sale never paid for the card and never intended to pay. Maybe a disgruntled customer decided to mess with this auction. I'm sure that there are plenty of those around. :D

Edwolf1963 03-17-2017 11:01 PM

Photoshop
 
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I shared these on the original post about Battlefield0516 a few years ago, but for reference and/or anyone asking what they do specifically, etc - these were examples of cards purchased by them (on the left) and shortly thereafter put back out for sale (their scans on the right) with the usual "PHENOMENAL" language. This was when it was easier on eBay to see what they purchased and turned on (eBay has since made that more difficult) Most of these were in low/mid-grade holders and/or Authentic - cracked out and resold as .. well .. something quite a bit more "BREATHTAKING!!!" :mad: #licebag

Jeffrompa 03-17-2017 11:15 PM

That clears that up .
 
A picture paints a 1000 words . Errors photoshopped away .

Buythatcard 03-18-2017 06:01 AM

You have to give them credit for being so good at PhotoShopping. They could probably do better teaching classes on how to use PhotoShop.

buymycards 03-18-2017 06:12 AM

question
 
Is Battlefield an internet only entity or do they have a brick and mortar store? Do they set up at shows? It would be interesting to talk to them if they set up at the National.

irv 03-18-2017 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Edwolf1963 (Post 1642244)
I shared these on the original post about Battlefield0516 a few years ago, but for reference and/or anyone asking what they do specifically, etc - these were examples of cards purchased by them (on the left) and shortly thereafter put back out for sale (their scans on the right) with the usual "PHENOMENAL" language. This was when it was easier on eBay to see what they purchased and turned on (eBay has since made that more difficult) Most of these were in low/mid-grade holders and/or Authentic - cracked out and resold as .. well .. something quite a bit more "BREATHTAKING!!!" :mad: #licebag

Thanks for sharing those!
I still haven't received a reply to me asking if I could see original pics/scans of some of her cards prior to her listing them, but I'm not holding my breath either.:D

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Originally Posted by buymycards (Post 1642276)
Is Battlefield an internet only entity or do they have a brick and mortar store? Do they set up at shows? It would be interesting to talk to them if they set up at the National.

I think someone dug into where they are located, or generally located, but I have never heard of her or them ever being at a show.

PhillipAbbott79 03-18-2017 10:46 AM

I provided their address.

She happens to do this from a professional building where she works as a secretary, CPA or something.

I really wonder if her employer knows she is committing fraud from their business address. From the address it is possible to get their phone number.

She lives in a private gated community that you can't just enter. You can bring it up on map and see the gate with guard booth, thus no pictures of her house. Technically her address does not even exist if you look on the map or Zillow.

irv 03-18-2017 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by PhillipAbbott79 (Post 1642353)
I provided their address.

She happens to do this from a professional building where she works as a secretary, CPA or something.

I really wonder if her employer knows she is committing fraud from their business address. From the address it is possible to get their phone number.

She lives in a private gated community that you can't just enter. You can bring it up on map and see the gate with guard booth, thus no pictures of her house. Technically her address does not even exist if you look on the map or Zillow.

So, not surprisingly, she very well off. Makes it all the more reason why she should be caught and charged.

Exhibitman 03-18-2017 11:32 AM

You cannot just keep screwing people over like that and not have some consequences. Unless, of course, you are in Congress.

"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress." Mark Twain

granite75 03-18-2017 03:24 PM

Any chance this Ruth Goudey isn't photoshopped? I saw the picture and I immediately knew who the seller was.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/391730436289

Also love that the 1939 Play Ball Ted Williams has 'beautiful color'.

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Sean 03-18-2017 05:12 PM

That yellow is so bright that it hurts my eyes. :rolleyes:

1952boyntoncollector 03-18-2017 05:35 PM

I think she lets you return the card though after 3 years which will please at least one member on this board

Leon 03-22-2017 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 1642367)
You cannot just keep screwing people over like that and not have some consequences......

...

Hopefully this is the case. I have recently been in contact with someone at ebay who can probably make a difference. They said they would take a look at this thread. We can only hope. Actions, and screwing people over, do need to have consequences.

.

Sean 03-22-2017 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by PhillipAbbott79 (Post 1642096)
Then it sold for 4,000 plus and returned in record time. Just 10 days from the 4000 dollar sale and it is relisted again today. I believe this makes sale number 4 on this exact card, undoubtedly being told each time that the card was trimmed.

I am guessing that this card never actually left their mailbox and it was returned on feedback observances.

There has to be something that can be done about this person. This person takes a very smart and diabolical approach to their fraud.

And it sold for $3,650 this time.

PhillipAbbott79 03-22-2017 11:00 AM

It really is a special kind of fraud. They mask it well in a sea of acceptable low dollar cards to stay off of the radar and have plausible deniability.

Hopefully the hammer comes down and flushes this rat of hiding. They will never be able to do the same thing at a card show and without EBay they would be forced to use an auction house online who would take proper pictures.

irv 03-22-2017 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1643605)
Hopefully this is the case. I have recently been in contact with someone at ebay who can probably make a difference. They said they would take a look at this thread. We can only hope. Actions, and screwing people over, do need to have consequences.

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Thanks for doing that, Leon.

Hopefully they have success and we can finally say goodbye to her for good! :)

Edwolf1963 03-22-2017 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by granite75 (Post 1642443)
Any chance this Ruth Goudey isn't photoshopped? I saw the picture and I immediately knew who the seller was.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/391730436289

That card appears to be the same here that PWCC sold back on 7FEB, PSA Altered. Expand the picture and look closely at the exact same slight diamond cut and print markings especially at the bottom between the L and E in LEAGUE. As well as the speckling around the G

PWCC link..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1934-Goudey-...4AAOSw44BYjP5n

Then Battlefield0516's "BREATHTAKING" cracked out example first on 27FEB, then again (same card) on 21MAR. Same cut, markings, enhanced/brightened and described as "near mint". Can't prove for sure, but this fits her typical historical pattern of buying low grade and altered cards, cracking, enhancing and reselling as something much nicer.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BABE-RUTH-19...0AAOSw4CFYroJB

SMPEP 03-22-2017 09:33 PM

Honestly, why should she care if Ebay finally kicks her off?

Okay, you loose the forward income stream. Yeah that sucks.

But how much has she pocketed in the meantime that she never has to give back? And no jail time like some of the others.

It's a complete win for her.

Cheers,
Patrick

bobbyw8469 03-23-2017 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SMPEP (Post 1643802)
Honestly, why should she care if Ebay finally kicks her off?

Okay, you loose the forward income stream. Yeah that sucks.

But how much has she pocketed in the meantime that she never has to give back? And no jail time like some of the others.

It's a complete win for her.

Cheers,
Patrick

+1 - she has already won her lottery. Everything else is just gravy.

Sean 03-23-2017 09:21 AM

Maybe we should take a poll on when this Cobb will reappear on ebay. More or less than three weeks?

Yoda 03-23-2017 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edwolf1963 (Post 1643797)
That card appears to be the same here that PWCC sold back on 7FEB, PSA Altered. Expand the picture and look closely at the exact same slight diamond cut and print markings especially at the bottom between the L and E in LEAGUE. As well as the speckling around the G

PWCC link..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1934-Goudey-...4AAOSw44BYjP5n

Then Battlefield0516's "BREATHTAKING" cracked out example first on 27FEB, then again (same card) on 21MAR. Same cut, markings, enhanced/brightened and described as "near mint". Can't prove for sure, but this fits her typical historical pattern of buying low grade and altered cards, cracking, enhancing and reselling as something much nicer.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BABE-RUTH-19...0AAOSw4CFYroJB

Please note that the winning bidder has exactly 50 feedbacks and the runner up a measly 27. I see some pain in the future forecast.


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