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Empty77 05-12-2018 10:50 AM

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[QUOTE=docpatlv;1775792]Yes, I forgot to add that mine seems to be made from a different type of metal, not sure what though.

and from Howard: I too have at least 1 of them. My memory wanes a bit, but I believe I may have seen them made of 2 different metals - 1 silver and 1 not (aluminum maybe?) - I'll keep an eye out next time I dig......
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So there is also this additional ad that was found, confirming what the other newspaper ad indicated, but in a little more journalistic detail, and easier to read since the res is larger, intimating the future production of a "gold" coin:

Attachment 315681

As to the points about the difference in appearance, I see what you mean. Perhaps the newspaper ad used a draft prototype of what was envisioned but not actually minted (but then the ad states that at that point the print run was already 600, so why couldn't/wouldn't they have had the real thing to photo?); so maybe the more probable explanation is that there was an early run, but if it was popular and profitable they minted more later and the later ones had these different design characteristics? In that case we should all be on the lookout for a version of the coin that actually exists representing that newspaper ad more closely...

71buc 05-12-2018 03:26 PM

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This silver 1971 Latin American player of the year award is one of the items I picked up at the last Hunt auction. I bid on it despite the photographs which revealed heavy tarnish and oxidation to the silver. I landed it fairly cheaply. When it arrived it was barely legible the color was essential black and gray. Which is likely why I obtained it so cheaply. I dipped it in a sodium aluminum bath and the tarnish and much of the oxidation disappeared. I will likely invest in a professional cleaning down the road. Nonetheless I am thrilled to add it to my 1971 Pirate collection. The shape is highly reflective and picks up color in a pretty cool fashion. It also makes it difficult to take a picture of the engraved text. I have posted multiple pictures to display this.

docpatlv 05-12-2018 03:43 PM

[QUOTE=Empty77;1776003]
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Originally Posted by docpatlv (Post 1775792)
Yes, I forgot to add that mine seems to be made from a different type of metal, not sure what though.

and from Howard: I too have at least 1 of them. My memory wanes a bit, but I believe I may have seen them made of 2 different metals - 1 silver and 1 not (aluminum maybe?) - I'll keep an eye out next time I dig......
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So there is also this additional ad that was found, confirming what the other newspaper ad indicated, but in a little more journalistic detail, and easier to read since the res is larger, intimating the future production of a "gold" coin:

Attachment 315681

As to the points about the difference in appearance, I see what you mean. Perhaps the newspaper ad used a draft prototype of what was envisioned but not actually minted (but then the ad states that at that point the print run was already 600, so why couldn't/wouldn't they have had the real thing to photo?); so maybe the more probable explanation is that there was an early run, but if it was popular and profitable they minted more later and the later ones had these different design characteristics? In that case we should all be on the lookout for a version of the coin that actually exists representing that newspaper ad more closely...

Mine definitely appears to be more gold than silver, but I haven't really done any research into the different types.

Great items Howard and Mike!


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I saw an example of this next item go for big $$$ recently, so I went to look at mine...BUT...it turns out I didn't have one:mad:

So I checked on eBay and found one. I was very surprised how much this card sells for in high grades. Mine is raw and not high grade but I'm happy with it.

1971 (thinking I read somewhere that it was actually issued around 1979) Fleer World Series card...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...orldSeries.jpg

71buc 05-12-2018 03:50 PM

[QUOTE=docpatlv;1776073]
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Originally Posted by Empty77 (Post 1776003)

Mine definitely appears to be more gold than silver, but I haven't really done any research into the different types.

Great items Howard and Mike!


Day 133


I saw an example of this next item go for big $$$ recently, so I went to look at mine...BUT...it turns out I didn't have one:mad:

So I checked on eBay and found one. I was very surprised how much this card sells for in high grades. Mine is raw and not high grade but I'm happy with it.

1971 (thinking I read somewhere that it was actually issued around 1979) Fleer World Series card...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...orldSeries.jpg


I think it was perhaps a 1975 issue?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-Laughl...kAAOSwMmBVlHDW

JollyElm 05-12-2018 03:53 PM

Man, I just love this thread. I'm old, but was too young at the time to know anything about Roberto Clemente (except, sadly, as a little kid seeing his card in 1973 and knowing he had died months before), so it is really cool seeing all the admiration for him on these pages. Great stuff!!!

rats60 05-12-2018 05:42 PM

[QUOTE=docpatlv;1776073]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Empty77 (Post 1776003)

Mine definitely appears to be more gold than silver, but I haven't really done any research into the different types.

Great items Howard and Mike!


Day 133


I saw an example of this next item go for big $$$ recently, so I went to look at mine...BUT...it turns out I didn't have one:mad:

So I checked on eBay and found one. I was very surprised how much this card sells for in high grades. Mine is raw and not high grade but I'm happy with it.

1971 (thinking I read somewhere that it was actually issued around 1979) Fleer World Series card...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...orldSeries.jpg

The extension for the 1971 Fleer World Series set was for the years 1971-1977 and released in 1978. The extensions were printed in much smaller quantities with the World Series cards from 1903-1970 for Good Humor (sold by their Ice Cream Trucks). Robert Laughlin sold sets of the cards that were left over through an ad in SCD.

Here is a copy of his ad.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/830/4...fa327fe859.jpg

docpatlv 05-12-2018 07:08 PM

[QUOTE=rats60;1776117]
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Originally Posted by docpatlv (Post 1776073)

The extension for the 1971 Fleer World Series set was for the years 1971-1977 and released in 1978. The extensions were printed in much smaller quantities with the World Series cards from 1903-1970 for Good Humor (sold by their Ice Cream Trucks). Robert Laughlin sold sets of the cards that were left over through an ad in SCD.

Here is a copy of his ad.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/830/4...fa327fe859.jpg


So 1978 then, thanks for the info rats.

And Darren, glad you’re enjoying the thread!

David W 05-12-2018 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by hcv123 (Post 1775891)
The original art for the 1963 Clemente Jello - included original photographs taken just for the issue. Happens to have Maris and Banks on the same sheet.

That is real nice. Thanks for showing it.

71buc 05-12-2018 08:58 PM

Great information Rats60. Thanks for clearing that up.

docpatlv 05-13-2018 10:21 AM

Day 134


1972 3,000th Hit Poster...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...Poster3000.jpg


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