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here2havefun 12-02-2019 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by here2havefun (Post 1875106)
Hey all, just bought a 1977 Venezuelan sticker Nolan Ryan, I had a couple questions about it, hoping someone here can provide insight.

The card came with the complete scrap book back, that contains a short blurb about Nolan Ryan (see a link to picks below). The card was clearly pasted to the scrap book page, you can see the paper loss pattern on the back of the sticker lines up with the white paper at the top of the scrap book page. I've looked through other 1977 stickers on Ebay, and very few contain the corresponding scrap book portion, they only contain the sticker.

I'd like to know if having the scrap book portion that goes with the sticker increases of the overall value? And if I wanted to get it graded by PSA, would I send the scrap book portion along with the sticker....or will they only grade the sticker?

Thanks everyone.

Pics:
https://imgur.com/a/YwheF7W

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Originally Posted by a761506 (Post 1875117)
The album paper is worthless.

The damage to the card is common to nearly every 77 Ryan in existence.

PSA will grade it a 1, they would only grade it with the album paper if it was attached, although, I suspect they'd give it a AUTH grade in that case.

Just got this '77 Nolan Ryan sticker back from PSA, ended up getting a 2, which I'm super happy with.

https://i.imgur.com/XMXVhnj.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/E2AAQsi.jpg?1


And here are all of the Venezuelan grades from the bulk sub:

POOR 1 1967 Venezuela Topps 158 Luke Appling
GOOD 2 MK 1967 Venezuela Topps 159 Nap Lajoie
GOOD 2 1966 Venezuela Topps 120 Harmon Killebrew
GOOD 2 1967 Venezuela Topps 303 Willie McCovey
VERY GOOD 3 1964 Venezuela Topps 120 Don Drysdale
GOOD 2 1964 Venezuela Topps 150 Willie Mays
GOOD 2 1962 Venezuela Topps 28 Minnie Minoso
GOOD 2 1962 Venezuela Topps 190 Wally Moon No Cap
VERY GOOD 3 1962 Venezuela Topps 175 Frank Howard
GOOD 2 1977 Venezuelan League Stickers 137 Rod Carew
POOR 1 MC 1977 Venezuelan League Stickers 151 Steve Carlton
POOR 1 MC 1977 Venezuelan League Stickers 159 Tom Seaver
POOR 1 MC 1977 Venezuelan League Stickers 177 Willie McCovey
GOOD 2 MC 1977 Venezuelan League Stickers 160 Jim Palmer
POOR 1 MC 1977 Venezuelan League Stickers 147 Lou Brock
GOOD 2 1977 Venezuelan League Stickers 158 Nolan Ryan

DBesse27 12-02-2019 09:04 PM

Wow, I’m very jealous of your 64 Mays!

here2havefun 12-02-2019 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DBesse27 (Post 1935682)
Wow, I’m very jealous of your 64 Mays!

Thanks! Was going to say the same thing about your Pete Rose 64, don't usually see Venz with corners like that. Good stuff.

Mariner 12-10-2019 06:01 PM

I enjoyed reading and catching up on this thread....it has been awhile. It does seem that more collectors are starting to enjoy the significant challenge of collecting Venies.

here2havefun 12-14-2019 03:58 PM

Grabbed this off ebay recently, my first auto'ed Venezuelan.

https://i.imgur.com/3DofSqa.jpg?3

https://i.imgur.com/H8gZOT1.jpg?1

here2havefun 12-25-2019 07:44 PM

Heads up to everyone, there's a new listing up on Ebay for a 67 Retirado Koufax, that was cracked from a PSA 1 case. It looks like there was a mark of paper loss on the front in the PSA case, and the mark has now been cleaned up... possibly "restored/conserved". Just a friendly heads up.

New listing:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Topps-...y/372890615564

Listing in a PSA case:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-1967-T...-/274091340012

Rrrlyons 12-27-2019 09:55 PM

Koufax
 
Definitely looks like the same card but is it possible that the front “spot” could be extra paper that was taken off instead of being colored in or “restored”?
Rick

hcv123 12-28-2019 11:07 AM

I believe
 
both sellers are members here.

here2havefun 12-28-2019 02:28 PM

Yeah I sent a message to the current seller, asking what happened with the front surface. He said it was additional paper on the front (as opposed to paper loss), and that the extra bit of paper stuck to the psa case when it was cracked.

Jim65 12-29-2019 08:30 AM

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I need opinions. To me it looks like 2 genuine and 2 reprints.


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