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CMIZ5290 01-31-2013 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy (Post 1081740)
Please point out specifically what you're talking about. It looks like an 86 to me all day long. If you do't think it's an 86, what do you think it is?

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1911-T206-Har...LN2!~~60_1.JPG

David- can you not see the rounded bottom right corner?

vintagetoppsguy 01-31-2013 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290 (Post 1081744)
David- can you not see the rounded bottom right corner?

Yes, Kevin, I see that rounded bottom right corner. :rolleyes:

Again, if you don't think it's an 86, what do you think it should have graded?

wonkaticket 01-31-2013 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290 (Post 1081743)
If you want clarification, why don't you give me a call? 229-630-1686....

No thanks I would assume you would have the "nuts" to simply clear here publicly since you made the comment.

CMIZ5290 01-31-2013 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wonkaticket (Post 1081746)
No thanks I would assume you would have the "nuts" to simply clear here publicly since you made the comment.

John- that's what I figured.....

TNP777 01-31-2013 07:20 PM

can we please get back on topic and mock the PSA boards and its migrating members?

:D

wonkaticket 01-31-2013 07:20 PM

What are you the riddler? Figured what you made a comment I said please clarify...

CMIZ5290 01-31-2013 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wonkaticket (Post 1081750)
What are you the riddler? Figured what you made a comment I said please clarify...

Why dont you grow a set? 229-630-1686....

DerekMichael 01-31-2013 07:25 PM

Hi guys. I am not taking sides, or anything like that, but I was actually hoping for some honest opinions on this one card in particular, because I found the grade to be seriously absurd. I saw it the the other day and was actually hoping for some feedback from the pros on this one.

Mr. Mize, I know you have a seriously fine eye for corners and high grade pieces in general, but wouldnt a stain of this magnitude be grounds for a serious docking of the grade?

I am just curious as to everyones opinion on a piece like this, and I figured this would be a good thread to ask.

I feel like I am not grasping the staining aspect of a card when it is being graded.

Thank You.

DerekMichael 01-31-2013 07:26 PM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/350694389007...84.m1423.l2649

wonkaticket 01-31-2013 07:29 PM

Kevin it’s not about fear it’s about not wasting too much of my time jawing with you over nothing. I barely see the need to talk to you in this thread much longer let alone call you. I’m sure your lonely, I get it but perhaps e-harmony or something is a better option for you? You can always “bump” your profile should you not get any responses right away.

Kevin, I won’t take any more of your time. Besides I’m sure you have countless BST threads to bump on insanely undergraded low pop cards. Along with a night filled with outing other members cards that you feel are trimmed or overgraded. Keep up the good fight.

Hugs & Kisses

John

Leon 01-31-2013 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DerekMichael (Post 1081754)

flesh wound

CMIZ5290 01-31-2013 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wonkaticket (Post 1081755)
Kevin it’s not about fear it’s about not wasting too much of my time jawing with you over nothing. I barely see the need to talk to you in this thread much longer let alone call you. I’m sure your lonely, I get it but perhaps e-harmony or something is a better option for you? You can always “bump” your profile should you not get any responses right away.

Kevin, I won’t take any more of your time. Besides I’m sure you have countless BST threads to bump on insanely undergraded low pop cards. Along with a night filled with outing other members cards that you feel are trimmed or overgraded. Keep up the good fight.

Hugs & Kisses

John

Still no call, can you say "no balls"?

vintagetoppsguy 01-31-2013 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DerekMichael (Post 1081754)

:eek:

It was probably swapped out :rolleyes:

HRBAKER 01-31-2013 07:33 PM

Bresnahan
 
I think you are allowed one coffee stain per submission.
Sure looks overgraded to me.

CMIZ5290 01-31-2013 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DerekMichael (Post 1081754)

Derek- I agree with you on this one, no doubt. I am very surprised it sold for what it did....

CMIZ5290 01-31-2013 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HRBAKER (Post 1081760)
I think you are allowed one coffee stain per submission.
Sure looks overgraded to me.

+1

DerekMichael 01-31-2013 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1081757)
flesh wound

Lol.
Mr. Luckey,

I would actually be very curious as to your opinion on this one in particular. Personally, I do not care about grades too much, and I do not know if you do, but what do you make of this?

I have seen a card get docked heavily for a small amount of paper loss on the back, and I would like to use this one particular example if I may:

http://goodwinandco.com/LotDetail.aspx?lotid=8289

The only real flaw on this Waddell that I can see is a small amount of paper loss on the back. I truly find the fact these cards (the Bresnahan I posted above and the Waddell) are considered "equals" in terms of condition to be nothing short of offensive.

Maybe I am wrong here, but I just do not get it.

I would truly appreciate your opinion on this subject, as these are just a few examples.

Thank You Mr. Luckey, and to anyone else who would like to give their opinion.

Derek

Mikehealer 01-31-2013 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wonkaticket (Post 1081755)
Kevin, I won’t take any more of your time. Besides I’m sure you have countless BST threads to bump on insanely undergraded low pop cards. Along with a night filled with outing other members cards that you feel are trimmed or overgraded. Keep up the good fight.

Hugs & Kisses

John

Now that's funny.

CMIZ5290 01-31-2013 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikehealer (Post 1081765)
Now that's funny.

Mike- I was wondering when you would chime in! Boy I've missed you!

wonkaticket 01-31-2013 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290 (Post 1081758)
Still no call, can you say "no balls"?

Use your giant manhood and publicly clarify your comment…or should I say “what I figured”? :confused:

Again why do I have to call you? Are we pals now?

HRBAKER 01-31-2013 07:40 PM

Technically I think the Hindu is overgraded by 2 grades. Might have brought as much in a 2 holder bc of the lack of severity of the damage??

CMIZ5290 01-31-2013 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wonkaticket (Post 1081768)
Use your giant manhood and publicly clarify your comment…or should I say “what I figured”? :confused:

Again why do I have to call you? Are we pals now?

Still figures, no call...By the way John, have you ever wore a jock strap? Just curious....

DerekMichael 01-31-2013 07:43 PM

Thank you Jeff. May I ask, if you feel the Waddell is over graded by 2 whole points, then how many points was the Bresnahan over graded?

In my honest opinion, the eye appeal and preservation of the Waddell card just destroys the Bresnahan beyond any words I can even communicate. There is just no comparison in my eyes as to which piece is by far superior.




Quote:

Originally Posted by HRBAKER (Post 1081769)
Technically I think the Hindu is overgraded by 2 grades. Might have brought as much in a 2 holder bc of the lack of severity of the damage??


HRBAKER 01-31-2013 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DerekMichael (Post 1081773)
Thank you Jeff. May I ask, if you feel the Waddell is over graded by 2 whole points, then how many points was the Bresnahan over graded?

In my honest opinion, the eye appeal and preservation of the Waddell card just destroys the Bresnahan beyond any words I can even communicate. There is just no comparison in my eyes as to which piece is by far superior.

I'm no grader (I don't have the qualifications). If I had that Bresnahan raw and listed it on the BST I would grade it F/G at best. It has a huge stain on it. In terms of comparatives, while I would grade the Waddell a technical 2, it is a beautiful 2. No comparison, but what do I know.

DerekMichael 01-31-2013 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by HRBAKER (Post 1081774)
I'm no grader (I don't have the qualifications). If I had that Bresnahan raw and listed it on the BST I would grade it F/G at best. It has a huge stain on it. In terms of comparatives, while I would grade the Waddell a technical 2, it is a beautiful 2. No comparison, but what do I know.

You know enough to know that there is no comparison, and that is good enough for me. :)

wonkaticket 01-31-2013 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CMIZ5290 (Post 1081771)
Still figures, no call...By the way John, have you ever wore a jock strap? Just curious....

http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn...wn-Shoes_1.jpg

CMIZ5290 01-31-2013 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by wonkaticket (Post 1081780)

I love it, I'm getting to you....by the way, still no call? has all your hair gone?

CMIZ5290 01-31-2013 08:11 PM

Well John, Who would have thought you wouldn't call? How about the whole world! It's amazing how much hot air you have in you while you hide behind a computer. I have only been on this forum for a while, but I have seen and talked to others that you "have differences with" and now I truly know what they meant. You have actually told me about different members "not to do business with". By the way, dont you have the balls to call? I've been waiting...

wazoo 01-31-2013 08:21 PM

This is more enjoyable than a teenage Facebook fight.

Jlighter 01-31-2013 08:26 PM

I think this clip sums up this fight pretty well.:)

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wonkaticket 01-31-2013 08:26 PM

Impossible Kevin my hair was gone long before you. Business, life and taxes beat you too it. :)

Besides if you were getting to me. I would have to follow your lead and send you long rambling PM’s like the below. :D

“How ironic for him(Dan McKee) to unload on me calling me a joke in the hobby and a pussy to boot, when I was questioning one of his cards. But yet, he is always unloading on people about their supposedly trimmed cards. I guess he gets a free pass. Pertaining T206 collectors, my collection is probably in the top 5 of NET54 members and if some members find me aggressive, so be it. I do think I know just a little bit about T206s.” Kevin Mize

You remember the PM’s over McKee when he called you bad names over you declaring his card trimmed. You remember this thread the one that backfired on you calling folks cards over graded again from your computer screen.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=158200

No Kevin you’re loveable and fun because you have so much to prove to everyone I could never be mad at you. Besides how can anyone be mad at a top 5 collector.

Oh and Kevin no means no I don't need to call you..I think you can tuck yourself in tonight.

John

P.S. Again what did i say wrong to you to bring up my nuts....oh that's right I didn't think you could just pop PSA 7's into SGC 96's so easily.

CMIZ5290 01-31-2013 08:30 PM

Still waiting on the call John...You are letting me down, but then again, who didn't expect that? You are a pussy and everyone knows it. Again, the number is 229-630-1686 for the sixth time. I thought you emailed me saying you would be glad to air differences?? Dont tell me you got amnesia....

CMIZ5290 01-31-2013 08:38 PM

Good night John, times up.....

wonkaticket 01-31-2013 08:41 PM

“Dont tell me you got amnesia”

Yeah I tend to forget things that have never happened sorry Kevin LOL you know how us "pussies" are. We have no differences Kevin that need to be cleared by phone/email were not hobby friends who had a falling out. To have a falling out that needs phone calls/emails to clear up one party has to mean something to the other person to begin with…on my end I checked…I’m good.

You latched onto me in that McKee thread and haven’t let go. Kind of creepy/sad you want me to call you so badly because I disagree with you that PSA 7's easily become SGC 96's. if that's the case I will look for all the SGC 96's in the BST from you in the coming weeks.

Is nobody loving you tonight Kevin is that why you want to talk? :)

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freakhappy 01-31-2013 08:48 PM

Lionel Ritchie<----the dude

Deertick 01-31-2013 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by freakhappy (Post 1081808)
Lionel Ritchie<----the dude

Correction: Jeff Bridges is THE DUDE.

wonkaticket 01-31-2013 09:22 PM

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+1

freakhappy 01-31-2013 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Deertick (Post 1081816)
Correction: Jeff Bridges is THE DUDE.

Lionel Ritchie = The first coming of "The Dude"

Jeff Bridges = The second coming of "The Dude"

:D:D:D

The difference is...Lionel actually performs, where Jeff had to act to be the dude.

Jaybird 01-31-2013 09:40 PM

http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/...ps701a2bd8.jpg

wonkaticket 01-31-2013 09:42 PM

Triple Dude...is that like Double Rainbow?

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/OQSNhk5ICTI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

DerekMichael 01-31-2013 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wonkaticket (Post 1081832)
Triple Dude...is that like Double Rainbow?

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/OQSNhk5ICTI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I just have to say, my friend showed me this video a couple of summers ago, and I laughed so hard it physically hurt me.

If you have not watched this guy, you should check it out. He is SO happy.

teetwoohsix 02-01-2013 03:11 AM

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sdkammeyer 02-01-2013 05:39 AM

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Nice cards Clayton. I noticed they are both "seated" and I assume that has a bit to do with it ..... I'm not sure I have any "seated" ...... but I can share a whole team standing/sitting around for the hell of it :)

whitehse 02-01-2013 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by CMIZ5290 (Post 1081792)
Still waiting on the call John...You are letting me down, but then again, who didn't expect that? You are a pussy and everyone knows it. Again, the number is 229-630-1686 for the sixth time. I thought you emailed me saying you would be glad to air differences?? Dont tell me you got amnesia....

I find it ironic that in a thread that highlights the downfall of the PSA boards because of silly posters and attacks on each other would have a post such as this.

Maybe the newbies shouldnt be the only one's to be asked to sit back, watch and learn before posting with abandon! :)

wonkaticket 02-01-2013 09:57 AM

Well Andrew in his defense I did disagree with him on something. :)

teetwoohsix 02-01-2013 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sdkammeyer (Post 1081901)
Nice cards Clayton. I noticed they are both "seated" and I assume that has a bit to do with it ..... I'm not sure I have any "seated" ...... but I can share a whole team standing/sitting around for the hell of it :)

Thanks Steve~ beautiful Detroit PC !!! Great image.
I was just screwing around, figured I'd throw a couple of cards in the mix. :D

Sincerely, Clayton

freakhappy 02-01-2013 01:13 PM

nice cards Clayton
 
It looks like Mike and Jake have front row seats...where did the action go???;)

teetwoohsix 02-01-2013 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by freakhappy (Post 1082096)
It looks like Mike and Jake have front row seats...where did the action go???;)

:D I don't know but this is a bizarre thread.

Sincerely, Clayton

bigfish 02-01-2013 04:51 PM

Cheers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290 (Post 1081771)
Still figures, no call...By the way John, have you ever wore a jock strap? Just curious....



I really feel like this is an important question John.... #@$#@#

sdkammeyer 02-01-2013 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by teetwoohsix (Post 1082093)
Thanks Steve~ beautiful Detroit PC !!! Great image.

Thank you as always. MUCH respect.


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