Rob you're digging yourself deeper, boots are getting shorter mud's getting deeper.

Never singled anyone out and a person can only take so much crap enough is enough. I am in NY if one of you people have the balls to come say something to my face. I am going to find another board or forum to join to many jerks here don't get me wrong there are also a lot of nice people here but the jerks always have something to say. Let see who is the biggest jerk of them all I guess that would be the next comment. And I really don't care if anyone here buys it anymore don't care. It will go to someone who appreciates it.

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Never say we can't be helpful... :D

Why you so worried about grammar? This is a post to sell a card not make jokes. I am trying to be nice but you are makes it hard. Why don't you go look at some other posts and comment there. You would like to meet to discuss this?

Rob or Robert - whichever you prefer. I don't know you and you don't know me. We've had no interaction except for this thread. So, for the whole forum sake, let's put this to bed.

State your current asking price. And stop making threats to send to auction house. Then someone, who hasn't followed this circle jerk, and wants the card, may respond. I doubt it at this point, but this has to end somehow.

I wish no ill-will toward you and I hope you can sell it for what you want. But the probability of selling it here...on this thread, is near zero.

And lastly, don't do the "you would like to meet" crap. That tends to make people look like an a-hole. I mean, you want to sell a card or fight someone. Who, by the way, you have never met. :eek:

How big a boy are ya? How do I get to where you're are? You going to be there all day? My name is Roy D. Mercer! :D

Come on Leon, this is ridiculous.....You say to ignore the thread, but this idiot just keeps on advancing it......

I will say one last time the card is 20k

Lolololol.

one person stumbles over a drunk guy laying on the ground and everyone hears the drunk guy mumble some incoherent jibberish.

instead of letting him lay there in his own puke till he sobers up and walks away, we say "hey! lets kick him while he's down!"

we should be proud of ourselves :rolleyes:

I feel like we ignored this thread for about 4 months before people started making comments.

So maybe it's like the drunk guy would sing the Macarena every 5 minutes and everyone tried to ignore it for a few hours until they couldn't anymore.

If he wasn't bumping it every few days, it never would have gotten to this point (obviously).

Yeah right.
 

I seriously doubt this will be the last time. But I can hope.

I don't get what the big deal is. People keep saying they're sick of this thread. It's pretty easy not to open it if it bothers anyone. I keep reading because I find it interesting.

It's constantly getting bumped because of all of our posts. Occasionally the OP has bumped without responding to a question or comment, but I wouldn't say he's over done it.

Amen...move on people

Figured it was overdue to hear that be said. You nailed the double fecta. Spelling and a shill insult.

Intelligent.

I bid $200

So now you think I would shill it? You are really something!

Rob I got $200 with your name on it let me know what your paypal address is ! :)

Entertainment
 

Why keep looking? Pure entertainment value. Not a lot of places you can watch something like this unfold. And it is ramping up. Every time I open it, more entertainment value! Does it need to go away? Sure. But for now I plan to stay tuned. Thoroughly enjoying this, but would not be if I was trying to sell any T206 cards.

Anyone this insanely desperate for cash to hold onto a card this long, to make such an ass out of himself in trying to sell it for significantly more than it's worth -- no matter how obvious it is that the market for the card is less -- is capable of anything to maximize its value. The idea that you could now simply consign it with no or little reserve and just take your chances at an auction is just not possible to believe. If you could live in this card you would.

if sell at the low end...25k and buy for 18 even the '20k' thats being asked..thats only a poor 5k profit.....dealers need to make money too...how they going to make money if only making 5k on the card at worst and only make 15K at best....c'mon they need to make a living too..

Bump. I don't think this thread is getting enough action.

Agree with Pete
 

Let's hit 400 posts on this thread. Very doable at this point. And I have never contemplated living in a card, but an interesting thought. But it begs one question? Where would I store my other cards? Hmmmmm

Good luck with the sale.

Don't tease us, Rob. I've been hoping for the past decade that you'd go away.

well if it doesnt get to 400 we can always rehash my :

'Ill just keep the card, doesnt mean prepared to sell at market price' thread or

hitting for cycle doesnt mean much thread......or im sure i can come up with something else..

No Jake just no, please don't I found them much worse than this thread.:rolleyes:

Ok for all of you that are interested in this card shall be happy to know that I consigned it.

Which AH?
 

Which auction house did you consign it to?

It will be in HA's Feb 10th auction

20% buyers premium.i hope you are getting some of that back.....will be interesting...

Well no one here wanted it and they have a huge amount of bidders at HA

So much for the longest BST thread in history. :) Good luck with the sale.

Thanks Leon

For what it's worth I think you made the right call. It obviously wasn't going to sell here. Good luck with the sale.

you could get much more at auction..its a good call....but always weird to see 'no one wanted the card'...you mean no one wanted the card at your price.......

Well your right but let's see where it goes. Should be interesting.

Dang, I was hoping it would go to PWCC.

Now why would I consign with PWCC? I think that HA is a good choice.

HA is a fine choice. But PWCC would have been more entertaining for the board.

From what I read here most people don't care for him.

A few might not but the majority are fine with him from what I have seen (and note he does advertise here). I think he needs to police his retracting bidders better and I know he is working on it.

I looked over a few different auction houses and HA seems to have the biggest bidder base.

Some people don't care for Brent, and those are the ones who post their negative opinions.

But HA should be an excellent choice. Good luck.

The only thing on HA that is negative is the sales tax they charge to more people that bid on these auctions versus PWCC...which does impact some sales when the card is in the thousands..

Yes they collected tax from me on an auction win. But doesn't everyone have to pay the tax?

NOPE depends what state you are in.....you would pay a tax to PWCC if you lived in Oregon....sales tax 5-10% makes its a 25-30% buyers premium.

Will someone please end this damn thread?????

Do you not see the irony? :eek:

Unendable
 

It is truly the never ending thread. Likely will get revved back up come auction time.

I don't believe Oregon has a state sales tax. I'm sure that is part of what prompted the move. Makes sense though. I have never bid in a memory lane auction though and rarely in heritage because i'm in CA and it makes it tough to compete.

right the reason PWCC moved was to free up more bids from California....lots of more bids come in from California than Oregon..thats the reason he moved away from California sales tax or not in Oregon..

Ok some of you guys wanted to know which auction house I was going to use. Well I picked Heritage Auctions. It is up on their preview page. auction #7155 at thefollowing link: http://www.ha.com/c/search.zx?saleNo...ve-notice&FC=0


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Beautiful card
 

Don't have the funds, but will be fun to watch. Good luck with a great card.

We will see if you asked too much 25k or if just net54 members are too cheap....its a shame if it goes for 25k with BP...which means 5k was BP (not to mention the extra few hundred for taxes ) and Im assuming there would of been a buyer on net54 at the price before BP but 25k was the firm firm price and no price reductions on a thread that has been gong on for 7 months before card sent to an AH..

Nice. Will also be watching, but this card is out of my stratosphere for bidding.

While I might've picked REA or LOTG to sell it, you can't go wrong with Heritage (plus it's a featured item and part of the live auction).

You might want to change your original post (and maybe even the title of this thread) to reflect that it's now offered on Heritage, but that's up to you.

I like this last line in the description (not too flowery, and just enough hype to generate some interest):

Your right we will see!

wow don't know how I missed this thread for last 6 months! That was 20 minutes of entertainment well spent and much better than the million dollar contractor show I was just watching....

Well it's at Heritage Auction now.

Some real winners on this board. Some were questioning if it was real even after it being graded.

HI AJ I know it is entertaining but just to let you know the HA is live now.

It's alive! It's alive!!!!

Good luck with the auction. If you didn't pick up any bidders from this thread, I'm sure you at least picked up several curious observers, myself included.

The card is at $8,000 right now(without BP), and it seems to be drawing a lot of interest.

BST threads should always get bumped for auctions being conducted elsewhere. ;)

Note: This is not a bump as the thread is already on top.:eek:

Nice card. Good luck.

Wow. I had forgotten all about this drama.
Ok, now for auction, on another site.
Well worth the follow.
Is there a hidden reserve?:D

Card is over $17,000 with BP, with a week to go. Looks like I underestimated its value.

Sean...
 

and everyone else-

http://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/19...umbnail-071515

if you look closer, you will note that there is a $15,000 reserve on this item, that has NOT been met.

No bid yet @ 15k

So in mid-auction this lot was changed to a new minimum reserve lot, instead of a traditional lot which had bids on it already? Is that accurate?

That's what I took it as

I think what happens is that the reserve doesn't post until X number of days left. The sale starts with regular bidding and then, if the reserve has not been met when the reserve posting day comes, the current bid becomes the reserve and it displays as being unmet.

if your reserve is not met i think Hertiage still makes the consignor pay something which may make them want to sell the card at a lower price then the reserve to avoid the fee if the high bid was close

Jake, that would make perfect sense to me.

Does anyone know what the last high bid was before the reserve posted?

The last that I saw was $8,000. The next day the reserve said $15,000.

Thats complete and utter bull----!!!

Haha.... the red lenox cobb melodrama continues

It's actually a common practice on Heritage and is posted in their terms and conditions. As are these:

"Nominal Bids. The Auctioneer in its sole discretion may reject nominal bids, small opening bids, or very nominal advances. If a lot bearing estimates fails to open for 40–60% of the low estimate, the Auctioneer may pass the item or may place a protective bid on behalf of the consignor."

"The Auctioneer, its affiliates, or their employees consign items to be sold in the Auction, and may bid on those lots or any other lots. Auctioneer or affiliates expressly reserve the right to modify any such bids at any time prior to the hammer based upon data made known to the Auctioneer or its affiliates."

In my opinion, these practices seem very similar to those in the Mastro auctions. At least they're not trying to hide them but if any other AH were doing this I think a lot of people on this site would not be happy.

Jake is also correct in that Heritage mentions a consignor may have to pay a reduced commission if an item doesn't sell for the minimum reserve. They also say the consignor can bid the item up past this minimum, but if they win they're responsible for the full commission.

That is not what occurred in this case. This item had a reserve; Heritage auction lots ALL have a message stating that "Reserve (if any) Will Post On" statement.

Here's there info on reserves:

Reserve (If Any) Not Posted Yet:

Although many lots will not get reserves, this signifies that we have not yet posted any reserves to this entire auction. Reserves are usually posted approximately 3 days prior to the closing for Internet-only auctions, and approximately 7 days prior to the live session for Signature auctions. At that point, any unmet Reserve will become both the price shown (with an asterisk) and the Minimum Next Bid, regardless of any previous bids.

Consignor Has Not Yet Submitted a Reserve:
Although the consignor's agreement allows a reserve on this lot, the deadline for submitting such a reserve has elapsed. If consignor submits a reserve post-deadline and the item fails to meet that reserve, we may charge the consignor a higher reserve fee.

No Reserve:
This lot is being sold without a consignor reserve. (Note: By law, consignors may still bid under certain conditions, but they are responsible for paying the full Buyer's Premium and Seller's Commission if they do.)

Reserve Not Met:
A reserve has been posted on this lot, but no bids have met the reserve. The current bid has been set to the reserve amount, and the next bid will meet the reserve.

Reserve Met:
Reserves have been posted for this auction, and there is a reserve on this lot that has already been met.

Opening Bid:
Lots bearing estimates and without Consignor Reserve shall open at Auctioneer's discretion (usually 25% to 60% of the low estimate).

It seems to me you have to be a fool to consign or buy at this auction house.