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Try the 1969 Don Hunter PC, eBay item # 235569319706
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One of the mysteries of the 1972 STP set is where the hell is the David Pearson card? We get Elmo Langley and Dick Brooks in that set, but no Pearson. By '72, Pearson had already won three NASCAR championships. |
I am going to go out on a limb here and speculate , I think the 1972 STP cards were ony given out at a STP tent at the Daytona speedway. The only cards made were STP sponsered drivers which would explain the drivers selected. Im sure some drivers like Petty were major sponsers and other drivers were associate or minor sponsers by STP. As far as the Lorenzen cards being so scarce I think his sponsership was pulled befere the race. I have no proof but this makes sense.
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Not all the drivers in the set were sponsored by STP. :) |
It also seems like the same 4-5 drivers are offered for sale all the time: Petty, Baker, Langley, Glotzbach. Where are the others??
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I had heard a while ago that Langley and Baker both had stashes of their own cards that they handed out to fans after the 1972 release. That does seem possible, considering how common the Langley and Baker cards seem to be. I wonder if all the Petty cards coming out of the woodwork is just a function of how much the value of that card has escalated the last few years. I remember selling a Petty STP card on here for $150 maybe five years ago, and that was a fair price for both buyer and seller at the time. Petty STPs were not always as common on eBay as what they are these days. |
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I wish I had bought a higher grade one when they were still cheap, but still, to me one of the great non major sports cards there is, an indispensable card.
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I see Hamilton won for the 1st time in awhile today. George Russell won last week, so Mercedes gaining some momentum after starting off the season horribly. Guessing they were able to make some improvements to the car recently.
Verstappen still has a commanding lead, despite his team-mate Sergio Perez really struggling this year. |
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This recently sold on eBay. I believe it to be the highest sell price.
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T36s have gone insane in recent months. It was not that long ago that the entire set could be purchased for under $1,000. I kick myself for not buying a whole set at auction when they were affordable.
I have been left shocked by single T36s selling for $500+ on eBay in recent months, but that Chevrolet price stuns me. I am at 11/25 on a basic T36 set, and was cringing not that long ago at the thought of paying $100+ for each card to finish the set. :( |
I watched with interest the autographed Joe Weatherly postcard that ended last Saturday on eBay. At just $106, the final auction price seemed very low to me. I fully realize that autographs on eBay are a scammer's paradise. But I think the autograph was good after comparing it with the few other examples that could be found online.
I thought that would be a $300-400 item. Weatherly autographs are very tough. He was the NASCAR Cup series champion in 1962 and 1963, then died in a January 1964 Riverside (Cal.) crash. https://www.ebay.com/itm/176496562158 |
The numbers just aren't there on early NASCAR stuff; even the best items just do not sell for much. Kinda nice for a collector but disappointing if you plan to make a profit with it.
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Nice. That looks to be a tough one to get centered like that. I'm not really a Nascar guy, but that ones been on my wish list for awhile. I've got a bunch of the 88' sets with his card in it and some of his 91" Trax cards (1st Nascar issue), but never sprang for an 87'. Price has come down quite a bit in the last year or so, so I might start looking around for a nice "9". |
Been a while since I posted.
1955 Ferrero 'tinnie' of Stirling Moss: https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...ero%20Moss.jpg I have a Sugar Ray Robinson already, so I had to have this one. Italian, in case anyone wonders. I love the metal 'cards' from the postwar era, though most of mine are boxers and soccer from Argentina and Uruguay. https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...%20Uruguay.jpg 1948 Indy 500 ticket with Mauri Rose shown. Rose also won that year. https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...ket%20Rose.jpg |
FWIW, A.J. Foyt has officially stopped signing. Also, RIP Bobby Allison
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The Parkhurst Indianapolis Race Speedway Winners cards are perhaps the coolest racing cards of them all! :cool: |
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The Lorenzen with car card in the 1972 STP set gets all the hype for its legendary difficulty, but Allison's STP card is tough as well. |
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From a wtf SGC 4 to a PSA .... wait for it.... 9.
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How can they be so strict/wrong? |
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Looking at them, I thought those received favorable grades but, then I see your card, and others, and think WTF, how can there be that much disparity between graders from the same company? I always thought SGC was far more consistent than PSA but all has been thrown out the window now. |
Inside the grading room:
https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...nkey-darts.jpg On another note, if you want to part with the Parkhurst Mauri Rose, LMK. |
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Upgraded Clark RC.
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Great cards, autos, etc. Congrats to all. Here are a couple of mine.
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Rest in Peace, Fast Freddie
Lost a great one yesterday.
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RIP. So what’s his first card? Earliest Lorenzen I’ve got is a 1962 Racing Pictorial postcard.
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For anyone who is not aware, the card Justus posted above is one of racing's legendary rarities -- the Fred Lorenzen with car card from the 1972 STP set. I bought some STP cards a number of years ago from an older lady who was actually at the 1972 Daytona 500, and she said the two Lorenzen cards were not available at the track that day.
Like all almost drivers, Lorenzen was a great TTM autograph signer. He has been in terrible health with dementia for about a decade. Before he became unable to sign altogether, his daughter would sometimes include a note apologizing for the quality of the autograph but that her dad tried his best. |
The King remains a TTM machine. Just got these back
1962 PC: https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...ize/img453.jpg 1969 PC: https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...ize/img454.jpg Also a few from Dave Marcis: https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...ize/img441.jpg https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...ize/img442.jpg Ken Schrader: https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...ize/img439.jpg Harry Gant: https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...ize/img443.jpg https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...ize/img444.jpg |
Awesome TTM mail additions, Adam. The King's white paint pen must have dried up from overuse. ;)
Here is a Harry Gant story I was not even aware of until I read Kyle Petty's book a few years ago. Even after Gant's racing career was taking off and he was earning enough money to make a living as a driver, he still worked a Monday-Friday job as a roofer long past when most guys would have quit that life because he was afraid that the racing success would not last. |
Adam.........That '62 Petty PC looks awesome signed. Very cool.
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Thanks; I was super-pleased with how it turned out. I think he took a little more time than usual to place the signature; maybe he knew it was a toughie...
I also did these: https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...0brochures.jpg |
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I was looking to find something fun and not part of a project that I have been working on forever and came across these two gems. Now I might have a new project of finding early post cards of the guys I grew up watching every weekend.
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Nice, Bill. I am putting together a whole run like that of NASCAR HOFers' first postcards in the big series. Richard Petty's first was 1962 Daytona International speedway. Dale Sr.'s first was 1979 Osterlund. I've got your Wallace but the Elliott is a new one to me. Looks like he was twelve.
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I am currently watching a pair of Bill Elliott postcards one is definitely from 1982 as it has the '82 schedule on the back and the other does not show the back but is most likely from 1983.
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Nice. Old Silverpen strikes again.
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A couple of new cards. Ricky Rudd and a really beat up Bill Elliott.
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Davey Allison from 1984.
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NHRA Top Fuel 8-Time Champion "The Sarge'
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Two more Darrell Waltrip and a signed Bobby Allison to complete the legacy of the #88 Gatorade car.
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Richard Childress & Austin Dillon autographed bottle of wine
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I acquired a diecast John Force funny car years ago (20-25+yrs?) that came with a plexiglass display case but I am unable to find the exact model anywhere? Mine has a Red wing/spoiler and has no Jolly Rancher written on the side but if is very similar to this one. https://www.ebay.ca/itm/304575659724...3ABFBMjPnSgLhl |
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Seen many an interview where he gets so wound up he loses he train of thought completely forgetting what he was talking about. An NHRA event anywhere is on my bucket list. Only seen top alcohol, not top fuel. |
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From 2000 the diecast of the winning car from the 1969 Le Mans driven by Jacky Ickx & Jackie Oliver
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Of all the sets that have exploded in value since Covid, T36s have to be near the top of the list. T36s are up 10X in the past five years. I am floored by a complete set going for $11,100 at REA over the weekend, but I guess that is probably not out of line when individual cards now go for $500 and up in many cases. :eek:
https://bid.collectrea.com/lots/147057 I have been stuck at 12/25 T36s for several years now, and will never finish the set if the permanent price is now $400-500 (or more for some drivers) a card. It wasn't that long ago when an entire set of T36s could be had for well under $1,000. |
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I'm collecting Rose cards, so this was a nice get for me.
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My Son and I spent the weekend in Indy for the 500 and I picked this up at a local shop. Fun weekend overall, but the race was mostly a parade at the end compared to last year.
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I like the current Indycar sets that Parkside has put out the past couple years, and bought nine bricks of the Pacific set. Given the fact that that buyers were guaranteed an autograph card in each brick I thought $30 each was a good deal. The cards look great, but the collation has been awful. |
Not a lot of vintage at the natty but I did get this:
https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...t%20Badge.jpeg 1948 pit badge. And these: https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi.../IMG_9175.jpeg https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi.../IMG_9174.jpeg |
Anyone know the earliest racing cards ever made?
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1965 Ford Corsair promo PC featuring Jim Clark:
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Yeah, the prices on T36s are stupid. I was getting these pre-covid for $30-50 or so (with some exceptions). I don't believe I'll be able to complete the master set without some market correction, but at least I have the 25 card set complete.
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Congrats on adding and even finding that one. In the years I've been working on the T36 set, the Chevrolet is the one I've seen the least.
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Barring a huge market crash, I am probably destined to stay stuck at 12/25 on the T36 Auto Drivers set. I always thought the set was undervalued at $50 or so a card, but I never would have guessed there would enough interest in drivers largely unknown to most collectors to drive prices to $500-1,000 a card. I picked up 10 packs of the Parkside Pacific IndyCar set last year because I wanted to support a company producing modern IndyCar cards. I know the modern parallels are just a gimmick, but I was a bit disappointed by how horrendous the collating was in that some buyers were hitting 1/1s in almost every pack they ripped. The autograph cards are pretty nice, though. |
Longshot, but am considering adding another midgrade 1972 Richard Petty if anyone has one to move. PSA preferred but would consider SGC.
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IMO North American racing, esp. Indy and NASCAR, are primed to get moving. They both have Drive To Survive style shows, a long history, and some sporadically-issued but interesting card histories, and they lag way behind comparable F1. Mix in people like me who are frustrated with the prices on vintage baseball cards but still have the drive to collect old cardboard, and you have a formula for prices to go up on other types of cards. At least until us dilettante collectors are bored or prices fall back into line in baseball. Neither of which may ever happen. I am really enjoying the racing stuff and will probably keep on with it regardless. |
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I was excited when it was announced Parkside was going to start making Indycar cards. The base set is a bit underwhelming, but I really liked the first Pacific Indianapolis 500 set they did. Interested to see what the base cards look like for the upcoming release. The previews have only shown the autographed cards. |
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Guess there will be no more watching F1 for me after this season. :( The announcement that F1 will leave ESPN in favor of Apple TV for the next five years was obviously driven by money, but I don't see how this won't hurt the momentum F1 has gained in the United States in recent years.
I know $150 a year would not break me, but I am not going to pay for Apple TV just to watch F1. https://www.thedrive.com/news/goodby...vely-next-year |
I hope that IndyCar can attract some of the people unwilling to pay for (yet) another streaming service. I believe all races will be on big FOX again next year, so it will require no streaming or cable. I won't say I'm optimistic though. The series can't stop stepping on it's own n*ts...thanks Mark Miles. That dude must have incriminating photos of everyone.
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Opposite POV here,Eddie. We already subscribe to Apple so the F1 announcement is very good news in my house. Quite apart from that I think the move will be great for F1. Apple has multiple spaces to cross-promote the series and plans to do just that.
Live sports are all going to go to streamers and away from legacy media. It is the one thing missing from their services that will retain subscribers. I stayed with Showtime at some points only for the boxing. |
I think what might hurt is if ESPN stops giving it the coverage on their Sports News platforms that they have been the last several years, in response to this.
Is access to clips and highlights and generally having less skin in the game, going to create an information black hole for a large part of the American viewing public? |
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I get it that Apple paid F1 what they wanted for broadcast rights, but F1 is reducing the number of Americans with access to their product. That being said, maybe the number of potential viewers did not factor into the equation at all. |
FWIW, Darrell Waltrip is not signing TTM anymore. I got a package back today that I sent out months ago, unsigned, with a note that he is retiring and won't do any more TTM signings.
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