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ALR-bishop 12-13-2022 09:48 AM

That Hudson/Sandlock bottom connection was discussed in and SCD article. Can not recall if by Lemke or George Vrechek

savedfrommyspokes 12-13-2022 04:52 PM

Another faded 71:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/18569743668...8AAOSw9oJjmQhE

Sliphorn 12-14-2022 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Tedwilliams1918 (Post 2293505)
Really helps explain hudson/sandlock

Was Sandlock double-printed? The card on the right in your scan shows some black all the way down the left margin but Hudson has blue skies on the right side of his. Interesting.

Tedwilliams1918 12-16-2022 07:11 AM

1958 dick groat
 
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Here’s a creepy one guys, 1958 dick groat wearing lipstick💄……I think it’s just the difference in brand new ink but really looks like he’s wearing lipstick

ALR-bishop 12-16-2022 07:48 AM

That is a tad creepy

frankhardy 12-16-2022 12:01 PM

Some today would say that is perfectly normal. It will ALWAYS be creepy!

Tedwilliams1918 12-16-2022 08:00 PM

Big thanks to cliff
 
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I got some 1958s in the mail today that I am obsessed with, big thanks to cliff bowman on giving them to me….what a great guy I wanna return the favor….. do you like ted Williams or hank Aaron better?

frankhardy 12-18-2022 03:27 PM

Is Richard Dingman on Net54? Is he part of this thread?

I have his website saved and have been looking at his variations list. I would like to get in touch with him.

butchie_t 12-18-2022 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by frankhardy (Post 2295535)
Is Richard Dingman on Net54? Is he part of this thread?

I have his website saved and have been looking at his variations list. I would like to get in touch with him.

The email address on his site works. He is a member here but has not posted much lately. I have been in contact with him recently via the brightair address.

Richard has many cards for sale on ebay as well.

Cheers,

Butch

butchie_t 12-18-2022 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tedwilliams1918 (Post 2294627)
Here’s a creepy one guys, 1958 dick groat wearing lipstick💄……I think it’s just the difference in brand new ink but really looks like he’s wearing lipstick

I posted these previously in this thread. Not as creepy though.

https://www.net54baseball.com/showpo...postcount=2222

Tedwilliams1918 12-18-2022 03:37 PM

You can contact him on Facebook

Elberson 12-18-2022 05:36 PM

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Ok……here’s another 1967 Topps variation for you…..Jim king 509……it can be found with multiple color shifts in his name…..white (normal? Lol), rainbow, green, blue, yellow)….I have the rainbow….pictures are from eBay so good luck hunting them :)

Elberson 12-18-2022 05:40 PM

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More pictures…..white name, yellow and green

Elberson 12-18-2022 05:55 PM

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Ok just noticed that my blue was a tri color rainbow 🌈. Here’s a close up of the M in Jim

Tedwilliams1918 12-18-2022 09:10 PM

Mr king is very nice, but every 50s/60s topps cards should have similar print shifts

ALR-bishop 12-19-2022 09:12 AM

Shouldn't....but often do :)

Elberson 12-19-2022 12:43 PM

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And my other 2 extras…….sooooooo pretty……almost Xmas like :)

Tedwilliams1918 12-20-2022 02:04 PM

1956 sandy Koufax sand patch
 
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One of my Facebook friends is selling his sand patch error of anyone is interested

Tedwilliams1918 12-21-2022 07:23 AM

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Paid a ton way more than a Regular 1958 but I won another! With missing text

swarmee 12-24-2022 02:53 PM

1972 Topps #92 AL ERA Leaders with Palmer, Blue, and Wood.

Variation 1: Blue line through yellow border next to Jim Palmer.
https://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1972...de50&size=zoom

Variation 2: Blue line extends into the yellow above Palmer's name.
https://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1972...c599&size=zoom

ALR-bishop 12-25-2022 05:01 PM

Good one John

swarmee 12-25-2022 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Elberson (Post 2295577)
Ok……here’s another 1967 Topps variation for you…..Jim king 509……it can be found with multiple color shifts in his name…..white (normal? Lol), rainbow, green, blue, yellow)….I have the rainbow….pictures are from eBay so good luck hunting them :)

These don't really count. They're just non-repeating bad registration from poor alignment of the sheets being fed through the press during the different colors.

Elberson 12-26-2022 03:01 PM

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Anybody see this over inked 1967 528 petrocelli before? I couldn’t find another one

Tedwilliams1918 12-26-2022 07:26 PM

Rico is too much water in the ink!….nice card I believe he does a podcast now

jbaskin 12-27-2022 02:46 PM

Rico underwater
 
I think I have one. Thus type of variation runs through a few of that series, especially Ribant, that I recall.

Cliff Bowman 12-27-2022 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jbaskin (Post 2298161)
I think I have one. Thus type of variation runs through a few of that series, especially Ribant, that I recall.

I wonder if it has something to do with being on the right side of the printing sheet, Ribant is on the right edge of the sheet and I strongly suspect that Petrocelli is too.

ejstel 12-28-2022 06:05 AM

Check closely the right hash of the card on the left, I thought it was a pen mark but it continues 'under' the white border. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...1645fcfba7.jpg

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swarmee 12-28-2022 07:28 AM

Recurring; here's a copy on COMC right now:
https://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1970...&size=original
1970 Topps - [Base] #617 - Jim French
Courtesy of COMC.com

Nice find.

Elberson 12-28-2022 02:35 PM

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Ok….we all know the 1967 Topps highs are really tuff but found another winner…….595 Rojas.

Here are two pictures. First one normal and second one print off set and blotched back in two different spots (large blotch has the snake skin or dots….which is in a few of the high numbers)

Tedwilliams1918 12-28-2022 09:29 PM

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Similar 1967 I found last year

strike-in 12-29-2022 01:29 PM

86 Topp Cal Ripken blank and
 
wrong location for post

strike-in 12-29-2022 01:41 PM

90 Topps double double puckett, johnson, santiago, franco, maddux others
 
wrong posting location

Tedwilliams1918 01-01-2023 06:51 PM

Cliff I found this
 
Lots of faint missing black, it’s not enough for me to care or count it as special, is it in the same spot on the sheet as mantle & company?

Tedwilliams1918 01-02-2023 08:38 PM

Cliff I added those wonderful cards you gave me
https://wordpress.com/post/vintageba...ibextid=Zxz2cZ

butchie_t 01-05-2023 03:06 PM

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I added the three Bob's today to my 72 set. I am getting to the point where I will need two binders for my 72 set. With all the variations and variations of variations, I am thinking this set will never be considered done as it pertains to a master set. I'm good......

Cheers

B.T.

ALR-bishop 01-05-2023 03:24 PM

Tim McCarver, who joined the Cardinals in the same time frame as Gibson but was a little behind him in starting, told a story about going to the mound in 1963 after Gibson had walked a couple of batters and seemed agitated to "calm him down". Before he could say anything Gibson told him, "McCarver, get your ass back behind the plate. The only thing you know about good pitching is that you can't hit it"

butchie_t 01-05-2023 03:30 PM

Bob Gibson was a seriously imposing figure when he took the mound. I loved watching him in 68 World Series. When the mounds were higher than they are now, he just looked un-hitable to this 8 year old kid at the time.

Tedwilliams1918 01-06-2023 01:39 PM

1958 pee wee reese
 
It’s not as drastic as mantle or enos…..but it is very spotty everywhere it’s definitely not wear

ALR-bishop 01-06-2023 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tedwilliams1918 (Post 2300334)
Cliff I added those wonderful cards you gave me
https://wordpress.com/post/vintageba...ibextid=Zxz2cZ

Cliff is one of the hobby good guys

Cliff Bowman 01-06-2023 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tedwilliams1918 (Post 2299975)
Lots of faint missing black, it’s not enough for me to care or count it as special, is it in the same spot on the sheet as mantle & company?

I'm guessing the 1958 Topps #375 Pee Wee Reese you are referring to is similar to this one. It's not related to all of the others which are numbered between 130-198, Reese is from a later series sheet being numbered 375.

Tedwilliams1918 01-07-2023 07:48 AM

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How can 1962 willow mays have two different cut lines on the bottom??….cliff have you ever lined willie up with everyone else to see if others have the same lines??

G1911 01-07-2023 09:18 AM

The varying cut lines exist on, I think, every card in most of the series. 62, 70, there’s a couple years like this.

Cliff Bowman 01-07-2023 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2301941)
The varying cut lines exist on, I think, every card in most of the series. 62, 70, there’s a couple years like this.

That isn't a cut line on the bottom of the 1962 Willie Mays, that is how Topps wedded together rows with different wood grain patterns in 1962. This Banks is an example of a card with a different wood grain pattern above it.

Tedwilliams1918 01-07-2023 01:29 PM

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I had pictures of other 1962 Mays’s with a really thick black line, but this site just never lets my pictures through

butchie_t 01-07-2023 03:09 PM

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Got Mr. Aaron IA with the line across the knee in the mail today.

Another one for the 72 set.

G1911 01-07-2023 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman (Post 2301988)
That isn't a cut line on the bottom of the 1962 Willie Mays, that is how Topps wedded together rows with different wood grain patterns in 1962. This Banks is an example of a card with a different wood grain pattern above it.

Good to know, I’ve been calling them cut lines for years because they are common in other Topps sets where there is no border change or texture.

ALR-bishop 01-07-2023 05:03 PM

I think Darren outed the 72 Aaron

butchie_t 01-07-2023 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 2302071)
I think Darren outed the 72 Aaron

I only knew about it from him. Props to Darren, I own one now.

B.T.

JollyElm 01-07-2023 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 2302071)
I think Darren outed the 72 Aaron

That is true...however, I was quickly informed that someone already had it included on their on-line variations list...so my discovery gets an asterisk.

butchie_t 01-12-2023 02:37 PM

1975 Topps Checklist #464
 
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I have not seen this posted anywhere within this thread or anywhere else I have looked into on this site.

I believe this to be a variation of the Topps 75 Checklist #646. There is a blue streak that goes from just under the "C" in the word "Cards" at the top left of the card down to the right side of the number 534 in the checklist area.

This is repeatable, I have two of them now and I have seen them listed on eBay as well as COMC but they are not easy to come by. Some that I have seen are badly miscut or the check boxes are filled in. Regardless, they are out there to be found.

Not sure if anyone else may have one but here it is for your review.

Cheers,

Butch

Second picture shows both of them in a side-by-side view.

NOTE: This also appears in the mini set as well. There is a mini example now on COMC.


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