Giants Polo Grounds Stadium Sign
 

Rob,

I'm pretty sure you're talking about the Giants stadium sign I got in a 1994 Leland's auction. I was the only one who bid -- I was the only one who didn't stop to ask, "What will I do with a 32-foot-long tin sign?"

It sat for a decade in my garage. Once the Giants built a new stadium in 2000, I really thought it should be displayed there. In 2004 I traded with the Giants for a few things.

Sadly, it's 10 years later and they have yet to display the sign in the ballpark. I'll bet more people saw it in my garage.

Mike,
Wow, that's too funny! I love it!

When the Texas Rangers tore down old Arlington Stadium, there was a 20' x 8' mural of Ryan that hung on the outside of the stadium. I wanted to buy that damn thing when it came up for sale because it was so cool. I just couldn't pull the trigger because I never was able to figure out where I could display it.

Congrats on taking the leap to own it for a while, even if you did let cooler heads prevail.

Wow The Pennant market certainly isn't struggling

http://www.hugginsandscott.com/cgi-b...l?itemid=83127
http://www.hugginsandscott.com/pl/83...re_orioles.jpg

Baltimore Orioles
 

That doesn't sound right for this Orioles pennant, does it?!?

No. That is a crazy high price.

I am pretty sure I remember seeing a clean pennant like that just sell on eBay within the last few months. I thought it ended around $7-800. That is a crazy price, but i am glad to see pennants doing well.

Thanks Scott, you feel my pain -- or lack of impulse control!

My word would be similar.....insane!

IMHO, it's a pretty generic looking pennant....from the scroll to the font.

That's what I had in mind. :p

If you don't want to say, I would totally understand, but I'm wondering what "few things" the Giants gave you in trade...

Trading with the Giants
 

Rob,

I was gratified to see the Polo Grounds sign used for the 1954 Giants 50th Anniversary Reunion.

The first things I asked the Giants for was a Crazy Crab "game used" costume, and a Barry Bonds game used bat. They said no to both. As I remember, I received an AT&T stadium chair, 2002 WS game used base, SF Giants 40th Anniversary Yearbook original artwork, a couple autographs, and on-field batting practice for me and my brother-in-law. Not bad, and I really wanted the Giants to have the stadium sign.

I seriously downsized the collection about 5 years ago, and many of these things are in other guys' collections now.

Orioles pennant
 

A lot of Orioles pennants in 2013, which included the black and orange variation of the scroll pennant, went for $700. Maybe it's $300, instead of $3000?

I'd like to know. Then again, the big suction houses almost always seem to get more than an ebay sale. Compared to a similar Giants pennant, $300 is more in line.

BUT...The lot of Orioles pennants were in the same auction house, H&S, not eBay. The $300 amount seems to be more in line I'd agree. For 3K I'd sell mine.

How come my consignments never do that :confused:

Has anyone here ever seen this Braves Mascot?

Or this rare Bum?

Both are very cool, Mark. What does it say inside the Brooklyn B? "My Fan"?

Yes Rob... It says "My Fan".

Not sure why, but just another example of something they'd never mass-produce nowadays!

Mark I own that Braves pennant, mine and yours are the only two I've seen. There's a neat Dodgers pennant I've been looking to buy, it is of the style of the 1948 Braves and Indians league champs pennants, and the 1950 Bronx Bombers and Whiz Kids pennants. I have to try to find a picture. They all are one-color, with league champs written inside a banner along the top edge of the pennant. The Dodgers pennant looks the same, don't think it is dated though, and it also has a unique bum design. Do you know this pennant?

Is your Braves pennant the standard size? It looks a little "tall" for its length.

Nice pennants Mark.

I have never seen that Braves pennant, it is obviously very tough. The Dodgers pennant appears to be in the same style as the Yankees 1949 world champs. It appears similar throughout the pennant, but I have never seen that style of mascot. Another very tough style.

Thanks Mike... Hope all is well!

Rob-
Yes, Braves is normal full-sized (and with no mis-cut). It's probably just the angle at which I snapped the photo.

Greg-
Will get back to you in a minute (need to snap a photo!)

Greg...

Based on your description, I think I have it. Took me forever to find this one, and have never seen one since. Check out the image below... Is that the one?

Better close-up of hitch-hiking Bum...

Mark, yep that's it! Super rare, and you have it in great condition! Thanks for sharing.

Has anyone seen this style of pennant before? They are fetching some high prices (look at the packers one...) yet I can't locate any but the milwalkee one in the Mike Egner price guide, they all seem to be in near mint condition and they have some strange stitching on the spine. Can anyone validate these?

http://www.ebay.com/sch/fourryfs/m.h...mplete=1&rt=nc

I'm not sure what you mean by "strange stitching." I'm a Giants collector and I can tell you the Giants example he currently has for sale is legit.

Take a look at the detroit example here:

http://ebay.to/1DdgTY6

Or the twins example he has. They have single stitching down the center. By strange I meant that I personally have never seen that before. Would be curious to know who else has seen it.

I've seen that style before and it happened to be the Packers as well. Not sure if this is a Packers specific style? It wasn't for sale so didn't have any idea on value. I like it a lot but would've bowed out well before $612.

Not a fan of Egner's book. Way too many football pennants unaccounted for and both the reported values and rarity are off in many instances. I get that it's hard to establish value on one of a kind...or few of a kind items...but why even attempt it unless you're numbers are accurate. Unfortunately, it's the only pennant resource out there....unless somebody knows of another.

THAT Tigers pennant looks like a reproduction, but I could be wrong. I think perezfan would know...

They're legit. Just lower quality.

Completely agree with Jason. All are original/authentic. Some seldom-seen styles and neat variations, even if a bit cheaper in nature. I've heard these often referred to as "vendor pennants". Meaning they were not likely ever sold inside the stadium. Rather, they were hawked by vendors in the streets outside the stadiums.

Given the number of seldom-seen examples in this group, it's possible that the consignor was friends/relatives of a street vendor. The fact that these were folded/put away (and apparently never hung) might further substantiate that theory. Regardless, it was neat to see some new ones turn up like that.

Anyone ever seen one of these?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-ORIG-19...item4d312fd62d

Here's something similar...

Very cool. Very reputable seller.

Those are not terribly difficult, but are tough to find in top condition. Unfortunately a number of those Cleveland banners have water damage, stains, etc. not sure if most were damaged prior to sale.

That Cincinnati banner is sort of the same, but different. Different fabric, etc but make great display pieces.

There were a few of those Indians style banners on eBay recently from Yankees and Dodgers that were in good shape. You do not see those very often at all. I believe I bid on all three, but did not end up with any of them. They did not go as high as I thought they should have given the rarity.

The very rare banner style pennants are the ones that are in the Killebrew items thread that look like a shield with a player photo in there. Very rare. Also some of the early championship banners that are seldom seen. Most advanced collectors need those for their collections creating heavy interest and bidding.

If you need that Cleveland banner you should be able to get it for less than $150. Good luck. Jason

Of course as I wrote this I noticed it is already at $142. He gets some good action due to very nice selection of sports memorabilia. Don't be afraid to wait for the next one rather than overpay for this one

Picked these up today at a local junk shop. Can anyone tell me what year they are from and if they have any value. I got them for $2.00 a piece so i figured i couldn't go wrong. Any help would be appreciated.

http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/x...psky3czjls.jpg

One of what you have is, obviously, a 1959 Bazooka pennant. The others are more generic and of an unknown issue. As you said, you couldn't go wrong for 2 bucks apiece. Bazooka also offered patches but I'm not sure of the time frame for those.

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/195...lot113826.aspx

Hmmmmmmm I don't see this pennant in Egner's book

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1914-Miracle...item4aeb339166

Is it real?

it's real alright and fabulous

I say it's a fake, and made within the last 5 years. Now everyone stop bidding, and just forget about this one. I will bid, just to get it off the market and out of circulation. It will be safely stashed away. The hobby doesn't need any more black marks, and I do not mind being the person to clean things up. It's the least I can do to "give back". So please... No more bidding!

Just kidding of course. It's not in Mike's Guide because this is probably the first to surface. Condition looks incredible, and it was safely stored for over a century. Just a magnificent and incredibly rare authentic find.

Very cool looking.

I have not seen that particular example, but I believe there is another example from a year close to that. That is probably one of the best and cleanest examples from that era to surface. Absolutely beautiful color and style. This is the one you've probably been waiting on Mark.

I just posted this in another thread. The New York Giants beanie was made by the pennant maker Keezer. "The Keezer Mfg. Co. Inc. Flags-Insignia-Felt Plaistow N.H. Made in U.S.A." Who knew?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-2-Sided...item51d27403f1

Can someone make context of this?
I understand the recent Boston/Milwaukee Braves 2 sided pennant that just sold on ebay but this makes no sense whatsoever.

I have seen this Black Hawks pennant show up before as the back side for another pennant . I do not recall the other side but it definitely wasn't an Orange Bowl pennant. Its possible the maker just used unsold pennant stock to print a new design to process a new request. The NFL and baseball season would have been over in January when the Orange Bowl was being played and the manufacturer could have been printing NHL pennants that time of year. A search of that year shows the Black Hawks finished dead last that year and maybe attendance was poor as a result.We'll probably never know . Maybe someone else can chime in about these oddities.

That would be my guess too. Leftovers, maybe returns or a batch some vendor never paid for. May as well use them up making other pennants, and maybe a Chicago vendor got a "deal" on Blackhawks pennants with other stuff on them.

I never believed the story about one of the car makers using metal that was originally Coca Cola signs until I saw one.

Steve B

Say what?

It isn't baseball, but this is the only pennant that I have in my collection (and I love it). Can anyone tell me anything about this? Thanks.

ND Pennant could be as early as the teens. What are the measurements (height x length?)

It would be awesome if it is that old. It is 35" long (excluding the tassels) by 12.5" tall.

I'm not expert on college pennants, but the size, construction, materials, and overall aesthetics all indicate mid to late teens. It's a beauty, and likely pushing the "century mark" in terms of its age!

Thanks for the info, it is great to have a better idea of when it is from.

Here is one of mine

I agree on the Notre Dame pennant. Very early and teens / twenties is right on.

In regards to the two sided Maryland / Hawks pennant, these are legit. I have sold a few over the years. I would say this is two different makers as the Hawks is an Adflag pennant or similar. Probably got the leftover Maryland cheap.

Lastly, that is a great Giants pennant. I love the detail.

Now it's my turn to agree...

That Giants Pennant is one of the very best. Great graphics, and kind of an Asian feel to the lettering. It has been theorized that this one was created for the 1913 World Tour, in which the Giants and White Sox visited Japan, China and the Phillipines (among other countries).

The player's uniform would certainly fit that timing. There's no way to prove or confirm it either way, but it would certainly make sense!

That one is one of my favorites as well. Love the image and lettering.

Thoughts?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/121706152718...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Absolutely not and ridiculous that the eBay seller is trying to make the connection. Either this same one or similar has been listed for a while with the same "connection". I saw this when I was searching earlier this week. Hopefully it doesn't sell for that much. BTW, the pennant itself is legit for just a city pennant. No relation to baseball.

Kind of what I thought. I'm not bidding, but the orange and black gave me pause until I did a little quick research. The NY Giants wore plaid :eek: in 1916 and pinstripes in 1917. I believe the colors were either purple or blue or black. Does anyone know the color(s) of the 1917 uniform?

He did the same with this one.


http://http://www.ebay.com/itm/1919-...p2047675.l2557

Link didn't work. eBay completed auctions.

1919 Cincinnati Reds 3/4 Size Vintage World Series Baseball Pennant Black Sox

$571

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Maybe the buyer has a photo of it at a game or something. I highly doubt it. I would not buy it for $50 as I have never seen an example like that in any photo I have seen and I try to pay close attention to early photos of pennants as many others do too. If someone on here did buy it and want to enlighten me, I would love to hear the rest of the story.

I know this NY pennant has come up in the past and sellers have tried to attribute it to the Giants. I think we all believe it is a major stretch to attribute it specifically to baseball . Even if a photo were to surface of someone holding it at a stadium who is to say the gibrone didn't just bring it to the ball park from home. Agreed $50 at most for this generic pennant.

This sweet pennant is up on ebay. I'll stick with my beat to hell example.

Thats a nice one!

It seems that nodder prices are almost back but why is the pennant market taking so long to recover?

Starting price is way too high. It has a rip at the upper-left that extends out to the border (which the seller discloses, but sort of Poo-Poos). And he compares it to the early Mastro example which was sold at the absolute peak of the market (and was likely shilled, at that). I would think $500 is a good aggressive starting price, and then see where it goes from there.

I am probably in the top 2% of prospective buyers for this pennant (along with Rob), but even I must sit this one out :o

High-end/Oversized/Dated pennants are realizing great prices, as they've really dried up. It's the mid-range and more common variations that are floundering. Of course this represents the vast majority of those for sale.

It's all just supply and demand. Right now the supply exceeds the demand for the more commonly seen pennants.

Examples of rarer Pennants doing very well...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JOE-DIMAGGIO...p2047675.l2557


http://sports.ha.com/c/search-result...Chance+pennant


http://huntauctions.com/live/search_result.cfm

Antiquated Hunts website apparently won't simply copy/paste. Oh well- they currently have some nice ones that are garnering spirited bidding.

+1

Picked this up recently and am thrilled to have gotten it. approx 34" long

Congrats! Beautiful pennant.

I agree that high end rare examples seem to be doing a lot better than I would expect. High quality scarce examples always seem to do well. What else is new.

One of my favorites.

Teach me !
 

I would love to know more about pennants is there anything I can research or can someone tell what's up ?

Just kind of watch the auctions and figure out what you like. I always encourage people to buy what they like and not what others say they should like. Buy high quality and you will never go wrong.

Pennants are great because there are so many different styles and price points compared to other collectibles. Also, great examples are fairly rare and tough to find. They also display incredibly well with almost any current collectible you might already have.

Good luck competing against some of these sharks.

Also, you should pick up one of Mike's (lefty) books. There is a lot of good info in them

Thanks Eskimo !