T206 REFERENCE/Reflections....Black LENOX checklist...and show us your LENOX cards
 

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Just another day to play and display some LENOX cards. Ungraded Vg cards, or perhaps a PSA 8 card.....all are appreciated. Condition is not a factor.
Looking forward to seeing some more of your LENOX gems.

The LENOX and UZIT cards are like 1952 TOPPS Hi # cards....printed last and printed least.
But, certainly much more rare than 1952 TOPPS Hi # cards.


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TED Z
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Ted, someone made me an offer on my Griffith, so I moved the card along...and quickly filled the gap with this great example. Thanks to Michael H (don't think he's a member here).

i saw the Mullaney Brown old mill mentioned in the thread.. thought i would post a clear picture of the card... been a while since i posted it on the board..

forgive me for the extra large pic... but its required to see the Brown OM portion of the card.. which is the most significant part about the card...

https://i.imgur.com/SVyN85t.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/BM8xeyL.jpg?1

Lenox
 

Mike

A great looking Bell....thanks for posting it.


TEDZ
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T206 REFERENCE....Reflections, etc......Check-out Jamie B's multi-brand T206
 

[QUOTE=Blunder19;1874137]i saw the Mullaney Brown old mill mentioned in the thread.. thought i would post a clear picture of the card... been a while since i posted it on the board..

forgive me for the extra large pic... but its required to see the Brown OM portion of the card.. which is the most significant part about the card...

https://i.imgur.com/SVyN85t.jpg
http://luckeycards.com/multi2.jpg


Hi Jamie

Thanks for posting an enlarged image of this great T206. It provides us a clearer view of the multiple brands on the back of this "crazy" T206.

Hope to see you at the National in Chicago in August.


TEDZ
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Hey Ted.. yes i will be at the national.. from Wednesday to Saturday... i will come find your table on Wednesday.. have the rare back T206s ready for me :)

T206 REFERENCE....Reflections, etc......Check-out Jamie B's multi-brand T206
 

Hi Jamie

Fair warning, find me early....because the rare ones sell quickly. Our booth is usually set-up near the entrance.

Question for you regarding this amazing T206. Given the way you have displayed the back of this card, can I assume that the Mullaney image on the front of this card is inverted ?
Which would be consistent with the inverted Brown OLD MILL printed on it.



TED Z
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T206 REFERENCE/Reflections, Theories, etc........revisting the Ty Cobb / TY COBB card
 

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Nine years ago, Jon Canfield posted this Ty Cobb/TY COBB thread: What We Have Learned About Ty Cobbs With a Ty Cobb Back . It sparked some spirited discussion,
including information revealing that the Ty Cobb Cut Plug Smoking Tobacco was introduced in November 1909.

Only eight red portrait Cobb cards with the Ty Cobb back were known 9 years ago. Since then 14 more have been discovered. Most of them have been from collections in the
greater Atlanta area.


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Factory #33...... manufacturer of the Ty Cobb Smoking Tobacco

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With all that we have learned on this forum about this mysterious card....Is this, or isn't this card part of the T206 family ? Let's hear your input ? ?

This is not meant to be a "poll"......just, a friendly and meaningful discussion.


TED Z
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We've had this discussion before, but let's give it another shot. With regard to its design, it is an exact match to other T206's. But in terms of its distribution, it is entirely different. All the other 15 brands issued hundreds of different players and poses, as an incentive for consumers to purchase more packs. Ty Cobb tobacco, on the other hand, issued only a single pose. And that is not consistent with T206's as we know them. I say it's not part of the set, but have no problem if the hobby wishes to include it.

T206 REFERENCE/Reflections...Revisting the mysterious Ty Cobb card with TY COBB back
 

Hi Barry

Yes, we've had this conversation several times before. And yes this card is very unique in the vast population of white-bordered tobacco cards printed and issued from 1909 - 1919.

Newspaper clippings tell us ATC introduced the Ty Cobb tobacco Tin in late 1909. The graphic on this Tin pictures the Ty Cobb (bat on shoulder) pose.....from the 150 Series T206's.

The card, however, is that of the red portrait pose of Cobb. This is consistent with my research that indicates that this pose of Cobb was printed by American Lithographic when they
first started issuing their 350 Series cards (circa....early 1910). Anyhow, this Ty Cobb card was a promotional premium. While some were handed out to customers, other cards were
most likely inserted in the Tin. In any event, my guess is that very few of them were printed (perhaps a single sheet of approx. 100 cards).

So, should this Ty Cobb card be included in the T206 set...I tend to think so. But, I do understand why other collectors would disagree. If I could afford this card, I would put it in my
T206 all - SOVEREIGN set, since it has a green colored back :)


TED Z
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