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tedzan 06-25-2019 09:33 PM

T206 REFERENCE.....the enigmatic Lajoie (with bat).... Post your inputs and/or cards
 
* * * * * * * * * * * * * T206 Reflections, Theory's, Surveys, etc. * * * * * * * * * * * * *


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...nerRptx207.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...SC150x30xz.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...350x460x12.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...raphicbldg.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ardP350x11.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...BatP460x11.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...06MAGIEx13.jpg


Furthermore, for you who are working on a Lajoie (bat) back run, you will be happy to know you need not hunt for a DRUM, nor a BROAD LEAF 460, nor a red HINDU.
American Lithographic did NOT PRINT this Lajoie with these three scarce backs. Nonetheless, if I recall correctly, this Lajoie can be found with 15 different T206 T-brands.

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...DRUMx25b_1.jpg . . . . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eaf460back.jpg . . . . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/rh.jpg



I'm curious......does anyone on this forum own the unique BROWN LENOX card of this Lajoie ?

It would be a really cool card to see.


TED Z

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tedzan 06-26-2019 10:12 AM

T206 REFERENCE.....the enigmatic Lajoie (with bat).... Post your inputs and/or cards
 
RON....JAY....RYAN

Great looking Lajoie's. Thanks for posting them.

This image of Lajoie, in my opinion, is one of the better (non-portrait) poses in the T206 set.


TED Z
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tedzan 06-26-2019 06:29 PM

T206 REFERENCE.....the enigmatic Lajoie (with bat).... Post your inputs and/or cards
 
* * * * * * * * * * * * T206 Reflections, Theory's, Surveys, etc. * * * * * * * * * * * *


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...C150x30xxz.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...yab350x19x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...raphicbldg.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...lCYoung12x.jpg
……. Two Pennsylvania guys …….


At my age, I'm lucky if I can remember what I ate for dinner yesterday :)

However, my recollection of...."15 different T206 T-brands"....printed with this Lajoie card is accurate. So, here they are:

AMERICAN BEAUTY 460
CYCLE 460
EPDG
BROWN LENOX
OLD MILL
PIEDMONT 350, Factory #25
PIEDMONT 350-460, Factory #25
PIEDMONT 350-460, Factory #42
POLAR BEAR
SOVEREIGN 350
SWEET CAPORAL 350, Factory #25
SWEET CAPORAL 350, Factory #30
SWEET CAPORAL 350-460, Factory #42 (overprint)
TOLSTOI
UZIT


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...350x460x12.jpg



TED Z

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Ronnie73 06-26-2019 08:54 PM

Can my Lajoie at least get an honorable mention on that list? lol, :rolleyes: This card front design as I have mentioned, is one of my favorites. I think because it almost falls into the Portrait category but its a Batting pose. Same reason I like the Bill Bradley With Bat, which also follows the same back list, with the addition of the Lenox Black I think.

http://www.t206resource.com/Gallery%...joie%20Bat.jpghttp://www.t206resource.com/Gallery%...dley%20Bat.jpg

Rhotchkiss 06-26-2019 09:18 PM

I believe no back run is complete without the no-print, if such a front-back combo exists. In this case it does, so I agree with Ron that at worst it should get honorable mention on the list of Lajoie w/ bat, back combos

Sean 06-27-2019 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 1892942)



I'm curious......does anyone on this forum own the unique BROWN LENOX card of this Lajoie ?

It would be a really cool card to see.

It used to belong to Rob Dewolf, and to the best of my knowledge it still does, but Rob was banned here about three years ago.

If you want to see the card it is pictured in the thread Subject: Front/ Back Combos. My lack of computer skills once again prevents me from posting a link to that thread. Sorry. :(

tedzan 06-27-2019 04:06 PM

T206 REFERENCE.....the enigmatic Lajoie (with bat).... Post your inputs and/or cards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1893394)
It used to belong to Rob Dewolf, and to the best of my knowledge it still does, but Rob was banned here about three years ago.

If you want to see the card it is pictured in the thread Subject: Front/ Back Combos. My lack of computer skills once again prevents me from posting a link to that thread. Sorry. :(

Sean

OK, here's the Lajoie with the brown LENOX back. Check out Post #25 in this link.... http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ht=brown+lenox


TED Z
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tedzan 06-28-2019 05:12 PM

T206 REFERENCE.....the enigmatic Lajoie (with bat).... Post your inputs and/or cards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss (Post 1893249)
I believe no back run is complete without the no-print, if such a front-back combo exists. In this case it does, so I agree with Ron that at worst it should get honorable mention on the list of Lajoie w/ bat, back combos

Ryan

I'm for bestowing honorable mention to Blank-Back (B-B) T206's; but, the problem I have regarding the B-B phenomena is that it's random.

We have mapped out the various T-brands for each and every T206 subject....we know what to hunt for.

The B-B card are an unknown. You can continue on a "wild goose" chase for a B-B of a particular T206 for many years and never, ever find it.

Furthermore, TPG dudes are not always certain if a T206 is a B-B, and therefore they label some "skinned". That's exactly what they did with
my Schulte.....

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ackSchulte.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ckSchulteB.jpg


TED Z
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Ronnie73 06-28-2019 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 1893809)
Ryan

I'm for bestowing honorable mention to Blank-Back (B-B) T206's; but, the problem I have regarding the B-B phenomena is that it's random.

We have mapped out the various T-brands for each and every T206 subject....we know what to hunt for.

The B-B card are an unknown. You can continue on a "wild goose" chase for a B-B of a particular T206 for many years and never, ever find it.

Furthermore, TPG dudes are not always certain if a T206 is a B-B, and therefore they label some "skinned". That's exactly what they did with
my Schulte.....

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ackSchulte.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ckSchulteB.jpg


TED Z
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Hi Ted, Ryan was referring to my comment on the Lajoie Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory 30 "No Print" card. I agree that Blank Backs can be random but the "No Print" Sweet Caporals follow your 350/460 series Group B list perfectly, even though they are basically Scrap cards.


Here is a little T206 History of the "No Prints". It's only my history with them and I'm sure there's missing pieces that I don't know about. I figured I'd share this since David Hall is selling his amazing collection.

I remember in 2010 I was just starting to study all the different combinations and how they lined up. At that time, I was left with two groups of cards I was studying. One group of 29 cards and the other group of 28 cards. Nearly 4 years later, I found my first and second "No Print" and they were both from the 28 card group. Almost 2 years later is when a large group of them started showing up on eBay and they went undetected for a couple weeks until someone posted here on Net54 questioning them and basically costing me a lot more money. That large group of cards was slowly auctioned off over a years time. 27 of the 28 card group showed up during that time. Between 2 and 8 cards of each of the 27 cards were discovered at that time. The only thing was that my checklist from 2010 still showed a card missing from the group that sold on eBay. That card was the Nap LaJoie With Bat. I was determined to find one since I had the other 27 cards. The odds told me that with enough searching, I would find one, and I did. Once I had it in my hands, I shared my checklist with Pete Gustafson, who at the time, we were both working together to corner the market on these cards. Between the two of us, we owned 75 to 80 percent of all the "No Prints" that sold on eBay that year. Once I shared my checklist with Pete, he asked if he could share it with David Hall, which I said yes. After that, things got a bit confusing because I started seeing my checklist show up on posts here on Net54 which was fine, but the posts also said that David had a complete set of the 28 cards. I figured it was possible but it was only a week after I released the checklist. It was then that someone questioned if David had a Lajoie With Bat because one was never seen sold on eBay during that year. I basically knew what David had, since Pete sold his group to David, and I kept track of what I won, what Pete won, and what neither of us won. It was eventually confirmed that David was short a few cards from the 28 card subset, including Lajoie. I still own 54 of the 107 "No Print" cards that were sold that year, along with my original 2 cards and the Lajoie.

tedzan 06-29-2019 03:36 AM

T206 REFERENCE.....the enigmatic Lajoie (with bat).... Post your inputs and/or cards
 
Good morning Ron and Ryan,

Sorry, but I misconstrued Ryan's post (#735). My bad.

Ron, I really appreciate your story regarding the 28 cards from the 350/460 series with the SWEET CAP, Factory #30 backs which were discovered in recent years.
It was nice to see my long-ago theory regarding this group of T206's confirmed by you.

Thanks again,

TED Z
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