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tedzan 07-25-2019 12:07 PM

T206 REFERENCE...How do you collect T206's: Graded or Ungraded ?...show us your cards
 
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Originally Posted by Ronnie73 (Post 1902414)
Hi Ted, Those ungraded cards must look great all together. So I'm figuring that you have all different card fronts for your set. What strategy do you use to choose what Subject goes into your set? There's maybe 20 percent of the cards that have 2 cards to choose from? Similar to your Sovereign set when you chose to add all 6 Super Prints with 460 Subjects and not 350 Subjects. I was just wondering if there was a pattern to choosing or is it all random and based on what is found first.


Hi Ron

Yes, the cards look great in plastic pages. I have arranged all my T206 sets in the SERIES order in which they were printed. For example, the 150 Series cards are all included in the
first eleven (15-slot) plastic pages in the binder. And, they are arranged in alphabetical order within this group. DITTO, for the 350-only Series, 350/460 Series, and 460-only Series.

Ron
I'm not quite sure of what you are asking me here...…
" So I'm figuring that you have all different card fronts for your set. What strategy do you use to choose what Subject goes into your set? "

Regarding my SOVEREIGN set, I have included both the 350 Series and 460 Series versions of the Six Super-Prints (displayed here). Furthermore, in pursuit of a master SOVEREIGN
set, all my 150/350 subjects have 150 backs; and, their 350 versions are a work in progress.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...CobbSGCx50.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...obbSGCx50b.jpg


. . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...RedCobb25x.jpg . . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ign350x25b.jpg


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...cematty25x.jpg............http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...verssov460.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ematty25xy.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...verssov460.jpg


My scans of Matty, Chance, and Evers with 350 Series backs appear to have disappeared (I will post them upon finding ithem).
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...luechasedk.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...asedkcap_1.jpg


TED Z
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Ronnie73 07-25-2019 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 1902537)

Ron
I'm not quite sure of what you are asking me here...…
" So I'm figuring that you have all different card fronts for your set. What strategy do you use to choose what Subject goes into your set? "

Regarding my SOVEREIGN set, I have included both the 350 Series and 460 Series versions of the Six Super-Prints (displayed here). Furthermore, in pursuit of a master SOVEREIGN
set, all my 150/350 subjects have 150 backs; and, their 350 versions are a work in progress.

TED Z
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Hi Ted, When I wrote the post, I was trying to find the right words because even when I read it back, it wasn't that clear. In your previous post you said that you are working on a Master Sovereign set and that the Print Group 1 350's are a work in progress. That basically answers my question. Your Sovereign set was built with Print Group 1 150's first. So, same question for the Sweet Caporals. If the same card comes in a 150 and 350 or a 350 and a 460, how did you choose? Was it a mix or were 150/350 cards all 150 Subjects. I just read what I just typed and it's still kinda confusing :confused:

tedzan 07-25-2019 06:35 PM

T206 REFERENCE...How do you collect T206's: Graded or Ungraded ?...show us your cards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronnie73 (Post 1902601)
Hi Ted, When I wrote the post, I was trying to find the right words because even when I read it back, it wasn't that clear. In your previous post you said that you are working on a Master Sovereign set and that the Print Group 1 350's are a work in progress. That basically answers my question. Your Sovereign set was built with Print Group 1 150's first. So, same question for the Sweet Caporals. If the same card comes in a 150 and 350 or a 350 and a 460, how did you choose? Was it a mix or were 150/350 cards all 150 Subjects. I just read what I just typed and it's still kinda confusing :confused:

Ron....very clear, now I get it.

You can call me a "perfectionist", because I was determined to first get the "150 Subjects" backs for all the 150/350 series cards in the PIEDMONT, SOVEREIGN, and SWEET CAP sets.
It was fairly easy to do with the PIEDMONT and SWEET CAP sets. With one exception, I waited many years to acquire the Eddie Plank card with a SWEET CAP 150, Factory #30 back.
For as you know, the majority of the available Plank cards have the SC 350 back.

However, it was a real challenge with the SOVEREIGN set. There are a number of subjects in the 150 series of this set, which were short-printed with SOVEREIGN 150 backs. Examples
that immediately come to mind are Flick and Wiltse (these two guys were the last ones of which I found their "150 Subjects" back. For a long time, Flick and Wiltse were in my set with "350 Subjects" backs And, that really "bugged" me :)

Anyhow, I'm not interested in trying for a master PIEDMONT, or SWEET CAPORAL (Fac. #30) sets. The SOVEREIGN set, though, is another story as I need to get 476 cards to complete
the "master". Currently, I have 444 cards.


TED Z
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Ronnie73 07-26-2019 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 1902671)
Ron....very clear, now I get it.

You can call me a "perfectionist", because I was determined to first get the "150 Subjects" backs for all the 150/350 series cards in the PIEDMONT, SOVEREIGN, and SWEET CAP sets.
It was fairly easy to do with the PIEDMONT and SWEET CAP sets. With one exception, I waited many years to acquire the Eddie Plank card with a SWEET CAP 150, Factory #30 back.
For as you know, the majority of the available Plank cards have the SC 350 back.

However, it was a real challenge with the SOVEREIGN set. There are a number of subjects in the 150 series of this set, which were short-printed with SOVEREIGN 150 backs. Examples
that immediately come to mind are Flick and Wiltse (these two guys were the last ones of which I found their "150 Subjects" back. For a long time, Flick and Wiltse were in my set with "350 Subjects" backs And, that really "bugged" me :)

Anyhow, I'm not interested in trying for a master PIEDMONT, or SWEET CAPORAL (Fac. #30) sets. The SOVEREIGN set, though, is another story as I need to get 476 cards to complete
the "master". Currently, I have 444 cards.


TED Z
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Thanks Ted. I was trying to get a complete visual look of your collection without actually looking at it. I just checked my Flick and Wiltse and they are Sovereign 350's lol. I'm currently at 320 in my Sovereign set.

tedzan 07-26-2019 08:30 AM

T206 REFERENCE...How do you collect T206's: Graded or Ungraded ?...show us your cards
 
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Originally Posted by Ronnie73 (Post 1902793)
Thanks Ted. I was trying to get a complete visual look of your collection without actually looking at it. I just checked my Flick and Wiltse and they are Sovereign 350's lol. I'm currently at 320 in my Sovereign set.


RON

I'm not at all surprised that your Flick and Wiltse are Sovereign 350's.

Only 82 more subjects to complete your basic all - SOVEREIGN set.
Perhaps, I can add to your set. Send me a list of the cards you need.


TED Z
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tedzan 07-26-2019 05:59 PM

T206 REFERENCE...How do you collect T206's: Graded or Ungraded ?...show us your cards
 
* * * * * * * * * * T206 REFERENCE....Reflections, Theory's, Surveys, etc. * * * * * * * * * *



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eign150x11.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...350x460x12.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...raphicbldg.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...lCYoung12x.jpg


Here is the 1st page of the 350/460 Series cards in my set. This series of 66 subjects were printed with the apple-green backs. Why American Lithographic (ALC) changed
the ink color when they printed the backs of this group of 66 subjects remains a mystery. It appears to me that ALC took their last 350 series pre-printed sheets of T206's
and decided to extend them into the 460 series which resulted in 110 subjects (350 Subjects + 110 Subjects = 460 Subjects).

Shown below is my concept of a 72-card sheet arrangement of these 66 subjects (Note: the Six Super-Prints are double-printed on this simulated sheet).


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ies15cd25x.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...es15cd25xb.jpg




Simulated sheet

v.................................... Six super-prints ....................................v
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...erprints9x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...obConDav9x.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...erprints9x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...yLDoyElb9x.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...raDouDow9x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...osLajLak9x.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...MurpNich9x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...aMcInMul9x.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...lPfeReul9x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eySnoSta9x.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...trCYoSte9x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...lWillWhi9x.jpg




Looking for more inputs to this informal survey. So far, we have.....

Three collectors, that for all practical purposes, collect T206's "raw".

Two who collect only Graded.

Three whose collections are a combination of both Graded and Ungraded.

And, one that is too early to tell (Hi Leon....look forward to seeing you in Chicago next week).


TED Z
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tedzan 07-27-2019 07:22 PM

T206 REFERENCE...How do you collect T206's: Graded or Ungraded ?...show us your cards
 
* * * * * * * * * * T206 REFERENCE....Reflections, Theory's, Surveys, etc. * * * * * * * * * *


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...BatP460x12.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...DGsgc60x11.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eign460x12.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...raphicbldg.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...yab350x19x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...CobbSGCx12.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ITxSGC30xx.jpg



Here's the 2nd page of the 3 pages which include 45 of the 46 subjects which comprise the 460-only series of the SOVEREIGN set. My Chance (batting) card is Graded.
Printed concurrently with this 460 Series are the Six Super-Prints which I have displayed in Post #781 in this thread.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...es15cds25x.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...15cds25xbb.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...tSOV460x25.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...tSOV460x50.jpg



Hey guys,
Still looking for some inputs here, as to whether you prefer GRADED or UNGRADED T206's.


TED Z
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brianp-beme 07-27-2019 08:22 PM

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I like vintage cards ungraded, and T206's are so plentiful they can still be easily obtained raw...and they can look wonderful in collector condition.

Brian

tedzan 07-28-2019 07:05 PM

T206 REFERENCE...How do you collect T206's: Graded or Ungraded ?...show us your cards
 
* * * * * * * * * * * * T206 Reflections, Theory's, Surveys, etc. * * * * * * * * * * * * *


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...mont150x12.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ohnson208x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...t150x12xxx.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...yFoster11x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...raphicbldg.jpg


Thanks Brian for your input.


Our current T206 collecting UNGRADED vs GRADED tally is...…..

We now have 4 guys who T206 collection are strictly UNGRADED.

Two who collect only GRADED.

Three whose collections are a combination of both GRADED and UNGRADED.

And, one that is too early to tell (Hi Leon....look forward to seeing you in Chicago next week).


Let's see if a few more T206 collectors will chime in here.


TED Z
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Bill77 07-28-2019 10:42 PM

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So far I have purchased all 61 of my T206's raw. I had the first 5 graded but stopped because it was taking away too much money from my already limited card funds. Here are some of my cards including a half hearted attempt at a back run.


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