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gonefishin 12-18-2024 05:48 PM

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Great cards, autos, etc. Congrats to all. Here are a couple of mine.

Justus 12-19-2024 12:09 AM

Rest in Peace, Fast Freddie
 
Lost a great one yesterday.
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Exhibitman 12-19-2024 01:58 AM

RIP. So what’s his first card? Earliest Lorenzen I’ve got is a 1962 Racing Pictorial postcard.

Justus 12-19-2024 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by exhibitman (Post 2482231)
rip. So what’s his first card? Earliest lorenzen i’ve got is a 1962 racing pictorial postcard.

1972 stp.

Bored5000 12-21-2024 04:52 PM

For anyone who is not aware, the card Justus posted above is one of racing's legendary rarities -- the Fred Lorenzen with car card from the 1972 STP set. I bought some STP cards a number of years ago from an older lady who was actually at the 1972 Daytona 500, and she said the two Lorenzen cards were not available at the track that day.

Like all almost drivers, Lorenzen was a great TTM autograph signer. He has been in terrible health with dementia for about a decade. Before he became unable to sign altogether, his daughter would sometimes include a note apologizing for the quality of the autograph but that her dad tried his best.

Exhibitman 01-07-2025 07:10 PM

The King remains a TTM machine. Just got these back

1962 PC:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...ize/img453.jpg

1969 PC:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...ize/img454.jpg

Also a few from Dave Marcis:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...ize/img441.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...ize/img442.jpg

Ken Schrader:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...ize/img439.jpg

Harry Gant:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...ize/img443.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...ize/img444.jpg

Bored5000 01-08-2025 10:49 PM

Awesome TTM mail additions, Adam. The King's white paint pen must have dried up from overuse. ;)

Here is a Harry Gant story I was not even aware of until I read Kyle Petty's book a few years ago. Even after Gant's racing career was taking off and he was earning enough money to make a living as a driver, he still worked a Monday-Friday job as a roofer long past when most guys would have quit that life because he was afraid that the racing success would not last.

Kzoo 01-09-2025 06:33 AM

Adam.........That '62 Petty PC looks awesome signed. Very cool.

Exhibitman 01-12-2025 01:07 AM

Thanks; I was super-pleased with how it turned out. I think he took a little more time than usual to place the signature; maybe he knew it was a toughie...

I also did these:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...0brochures.jpg

Bill77 02-19-2025 01:20 AM

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I was looking to find something fun and not part of a project that I have been working on forever and came across these two gems. Now I might have a new project of finding early post cards of the guys I grew up watching every weekend.

Exhibitman 02-20-2025 05:01 PM

Nice, Bill. I am putting together a whole run like that of NASCAR HOFers' first postcards in the big series. Richard Petty's first was 1962 Daytona International speedway. Dale Sr.'s first was 1979 Osterlund. I've got your Wallace but the Elliott is a new one to me. Looks like he was twelve.

Bill77 02-21-2025 12:24 AM

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I am currently watching a pair of Bill Elliott postcards one is definitely from 1982 as it has the '82 schedule on the back and the other does not show the back but is most likely from 1983.

And this arrived today:

Exhibitman 02-22-2025 11:19 PM

Nice. Old Silverpen strikes again.

Bill77 03-01-2025 01:55 PM

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A couple of new cards. Ricky Rudd and a really beat up Bill Elliott.

Bill77 03-03-2025 12:22 PM

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Davey Allison from 1984.

REG1976 03-09-2025 02:30 PM

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NHRA Top Fuel 8-Time Champion "The Sarge'

Bill77 03-11-2025 12:42 PM

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Two more Darrell Waltrip and a signed Bobby Allison to complete the legacy of the #88 Gatorade car.

REG1976 03-20-2025 02:43 PM

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Richard Childress & Austin Dillon autographed bottle of wine

irv 03-22-2025 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by REG1976 (Post 2502073)
NHRA Top Fuel 8-Time Champion "The Sarge'

Nice! :)

I acquired a diecast John Force funny car years ago (20-25+yrs?) that came with a plexiglass display case but I am unable to find the exact model anywhere?
Mine has a Red wing/spoiler and has no Jolly Rancher written on the side but if is very similar to this one.
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/304575659724...3ABFBMjPnSgLhl

REG1976 03-23-2025 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by irv (Post 2504923)
Nice! :)

I acquired a diecast John Force funny car years ago (20-25+yrs?) that came with a plexiglass display case but I am unable to find the exact model anywhere?
Mine has a Red wing/spoiler and has no Jolly Rancher written on the side but if is very similar to this one.
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/304575659724...3ABFBMjPnSgLhl

Thanks, I met Tony Schumacher at the Super Nationals in Englishtown, also Jonn Force's daughter Courtney Force got her autograph too. John Force is quite a character for the good

irv 03-26-2025 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by REG1976 (Post 2505070)
Thanks, I met Tony Schumacher at the Super Nationals in Englishtown, also Jonn Force's daughter Courtney Force got her autograph too. John Force is quite a character for the good

He certainly is! :D
Seen many an interview where he gets so wound up he loses he train of thought completely forgetting what he was talking about.

An NHRA event anywhere is on my bucket list. Only seen top alcohol, not top fuel.

REG1976 04-04-2025 06:40 PM

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From 2000 the diecast of the winning car from the 1969 Le Mans driven by Jacky Ickx & Jackie Oliver

Bored5000 04-29-2025 12:47 AM

Of all the sets that have exploded in value since Covid, T36s have to be near the top of the list. T36s are up 10X in the past five years. I am floored by a complete set going for $11,100 at REA over the weekend, but I guess that is probably not out of line when individual cards now go for $500 and up in many cases. :eek:

https://bid.collectrea.com/lots/147057

I have been stuck at 12/25 T36s for several years now, and will never finish the set if the permanent price is now $400-500 (or more for some drivers) a card. It wasn't that long ago when an entire set of T36s could be had for well under $1,000.

Exhibitman 05-20-2025 11:04 PM

1937 Wilbur Shaw Indianapolis 500 Board Game

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/OZIAA...O/s-l1600.webp

Bored5000 05-22-2025 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 2517037)
1937 Wilbur Shaw Indianapolis 500 Board Game

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/OZIAA...O/s-l1600.webp

I like the Wilbur Shaw game cards because there are so few racing cards from the period between the T36s in 1911 and the Shaw game in 1937. I have a Frank Lockhart card from the game as an example. I want a Ray Harroun card from the game, since that seemingly has to be the rookie card of the first Indy 500 winner but have lost out on a few Harroun cards at auction in recent years.

Exhibitman 05-22-2025 08:32 AM

I'm collecting Rose cards, so this was a nice get for me.

Exhibitman 05-22-2025 08:37 AM

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Upgraded Clark RC.

I found an interesting Clark PC from Europe that year in a PC collection I purchased recently and just finished breaking down. I will scan and post when I have some time later.

Kzoo 05-26-2025 07:33 PM

t36 Chevrolet...
 
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My Son and I spent the weekend in Indy for the 500 and I picked this up at a local shop. Fun weekend overall, but the race was mostly a parade at the end compared to last year.

Bored5000 05-26-2025 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kzoo (Post 2518291)
My Son and I spent the weekend in Indy for the 500 and I picked this up at a local shop. Fun weekend overall, but the race was mostly a parade at the end compared to last year.

Great pickup, Matt. T36s are on fire right now. I wondered if anyone on the board attended the 500 yesterday. It will be interesting to see if Palou can keep up his dominance all season and put together a season for the ages. I know Palou had never won on an oval prior to yesterday, but it seemed crazy to me that went off at 11-2 odds yesterday, given how dominant he has been all year.

I like the current Indycar sets that Parkside has put out the past couple years, and bought nine bricks of the Pacific set. Given the fact that that buyers were guaranteed an autograph card in each brick I thought $30 each was a good deal. The cards look great, but the collation has been awful.

Exhibitman 08-09-2025 07:01 PM

Not a lot of vintage at the natty but I did get this:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...t%20Badge.jpeg

1948 pit badge. And these:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi.../IMG_9175.jpeg
https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi.../IMG_9174.jpeg

rowdy3 10-08-2025 07:24 PM

Anyone know the earliest racing cards ever made?

Bored5000 10-09-2025 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by rowdy3 (Post 2542826)
Anyone know the earliest racing cards ever made?

If we are talking cards in actual sets, I think the 1901-02 Ogdens and 1908 Felix Potin cards may be the answer. Both are massive sets and include some racing cards. The 1911 T36 Auto Drivers set is the most mainstream early American set.

Exhibitman 10-09-2025 01:50 PM

1965 Ford Corsair promo PC featuring Jim Clark:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...0Clark%201.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...0Clark%202.jpg

Dutch, I think.

Beansballcardblog 10-10-2025 03:41 PM

Yeah, the prices on T36s are stupid. I was getting these pre-covid for $30-50 or so (with some exceptions). I don't believe I'll be able to complete the master set without some market correction, but at least I have the 25 card set complete.


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Originally Posted by Bored5000 (Post 2512604)
Of all the sets that have exploded in value since Covid, T36s have to be near the top of the list. T36s are up 10X in the past five years. I am floored by a complete set going for $11,100 at REA over the weekend, but I guess that is probably not out of line when individual cards now go for $500 and up in many cases. :eek:

https://bid.collectrea.com/lots/147057

I have been stuck at 12/25 T36s for several years now, and will never finish the set if the permanent price is now $400-500 (or more for some drivers) a card. It wasn't that long ago when an entire set of T36s could be had for well under $1,000.


Beansballcardblog 10-10-2025 03:47 PM

Congrats on adding and even finding that one. In the years I've been working on the T36 set, the Chevrolet is the one I've seen the least.


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Originally Posted by Kzoo (Post 2518291)
My Son and I spent the weekend in Indy for the 500 and I picked this up at a local shop. Fun weekend overall, but the race was mostly a parade at the end compared to last year.


Bored5000 10-11-2025 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Beansballcardblog (Post 2543164)
Yeah, the prices on T36s are stupid. I was getting these pre-covid for $30-50 or so (with some exceptions). I don't believe I'll be able to complete the master set without some market correction, but at least I have the 25 card set complete.

Good to see you back posting again, Kin. I always enjoy your appearances on the NASCARD Radio podcast.

Barring a huge market crash, I am probably destined to stay stuck at 12/25 on the T36 Auto Drivers set. I always thought the set was undervalued at $50 or so a card, but I never would have guessed there would enough interest in drivers largely unknown to most collectors to drive prices to $500-1,000 a card.

I picked up 10 packs of the Parkside Pacific IndyCar set last year because I wanted to support a company producing modern IndyCar cards. I know the modern parallels are just a gimmick, but I was a bit disappointed by how horrendous the collating was in that some buyers were hitting 1/1s in almost every pack they ripped. The autograph cards are pretty nice, though.

Peter_Spaeth 10-11-2025 01:46 PM

Longshot, but am considering adding another midgrade 1972 Richard Petty if anyone has one to move. PSA preferred but would consider SGC.

Exhibitman 10-12-2025 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bored5000 (Post 2543241)
I always thought the set was undervalued at $50 or so a card, but I never would have guessed there would enough interest in drivers largely unknown to most collectors to drive prices to $500-1,000 a card.

I'm not surprised. It isn't just that set. Non-baseball N and T cards are having a moment, have been for a year at least. I bought a collection of vintage NS cards a year or three ago, sold them for nice multiples, and watched them skyrocket from there to prices that make me throw up a little in my mouth.

IMO North American racing, esp. Indy and NASCAR, are primed to get moving. They both have Drive To Survive style shows, a long history, and some sporadically-issued but interesting card histories, and they lag way behind comparable F1. Mix in people like me who are frustrated with the prices on vintage baseball cards but still have the drive to collect old cardboard, and you have a formula for prices to go up on other types of cards. At least until us dilettante collectors are bored or prices fall back into line in baseball. Neither of which may ever happen. I am really enjoying the racing stuff and will probably keep on with it regardless.

Bored5000 10-12-2025 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 2543621)
I'm not surprised. It isn't just that set. Non-baseball N and T cards are having a moment, have been for a year at least. I bought a collection of vintage NS cards a year or three ago, sold them for nice multiples, and watched them skyrocket from there to prices that make me throw up a little in my mouth.

One of the other non sports sets I watch that has gone crazy over the last several years is the N76 Great Americans set, at least when it comes to the iconic Presidents in the set like Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, etc. The big names in that set are up 10X in just a few years. Someone willing to pay any price for a vintage Lincoln or Washington card, I at least understand more so than a rabid bidding war for Bob Burman or Henry Fournier. ;)

Beansballcardblog 10-15-2025 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bored5000 (Post 2543241)
Good to see you back posting again, Kin. I always enjoy your appearances on the NASCARD Radio podcast.

Barring a huge market crash, I am probably destined to stay stuck at 12/25 on the T36 Auto Drivers set. I always thought the set was undervalued at $50 or so a card, but I never would have guessed there would enough interest in drivers largely unknown to most collectors to drive prices to $500-1,000 a card.

I picked up 10 packs of the Parkside Pacific IndyCar set last year because I wanted to support a company producing modern IndyCar cards. I know the modern parallels are just a gimmick, but I was a bit disappointed by how horrendous the collating was in that some buyers were hitting 1/1s in almost every pack they ripped. The autograph cards are pretty nice, though.

Hope all is well! Good to know that some people are listening to their show.

I was excited when it was announced Parkside was going to start making Indycar cards. The base set is a bit underwhelming, but I really liked the first Pacific Indianapolis 500 set they did. Interested to see what the base cards look like for the upcoming release. The previews have only shown the autographed cards.

Bored5000 10-15-2025 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Beansballcardblog (Post 2544330)
Hope all is well! Good to know that some people are listening to their show.

I don't know if Val and Logan would frown at giving this board a plug, but maybe we could attract some more racing collectors on here if you were able to mention that this board has a huge racing card thread and the posters in the thread are all pretty friendly and laid back.

Just a thought; no big deal if not.

Bored5000 10-18-2025 05:49 AM

Guess there will be no more watching F1 for me after this season. :( The announcement that F1 will leave ESPN in favor of Apple TV for the next five years was obviously driven by money, but I don't see how this won't hurt the momentum F1 has gained in the United States in recent years.

I know $150 a year would not break me, but I am not going to pay for Apple TV just to watch F1.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/goodby...vely-next-year

Beansballcardblog 10-18-2025 05:59 PM

I hope that IndyCar can attract some of the people unwilling to pay for (yet) another streaming service. I believe all races will be on big FOX again next year, so it will require no streaming or cable. I won't say I'm optimistic though. The series can't stop stepping on it's own n*ts...thanks Mark Miles. That dude must have incriminating photos of everyone.



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Originally Posted by Bored5000 (Post 2544784)
Guess there will be no more watching F1 for me after this season. :( The announcement that F1 will leave ESPN in favor of Apple TV for the next five years was obviously driven by money, but I don't see how this won't hurt the momentum F1 has gained in the United States in recent years.

I know $150 a year would not break me, but I am not going to pay for Apple TV just to watch F1.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/goodby...vely-next-year


Exhibitman 10-19-2025 06:16 AM

Opposite POV here,Eddie. We already subscribe to Apple so the F1 announcement is very good news in my house. Quite apart from that I think the move will be great for F1. Apple has multiple spaces to cross-promote the series and plans to do just that.

Live sports are all going to go to streamers and away from legacy media. It is the one thing missing from their services that will retain subscribers. I stayed with Showtime at some points only for the boxing.

D. Bergin 10-19-2025 10:50 AM

I think what might hurt is if ESPN stops giving it the coverage on their Sports News platforms that they have been the last several years, in response to this.

Is access to clips and highlights and generally having less skin in the game, going to create an information black hole for a large part of the American viewing public?

Bored5000 10-19-2025 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 2544996)
Opposite POV here,Eddie. We already subscribe to Apple so the F1 announcement is very good news in my house. Quite apart from that I think the move will be great for F1. Apple has multiple spaces to cross-promote the series and plans to do just that.

Live sports are all going to go to streamers and away from legacy media. It is the one thing missing from their services that will retain subscribers. I stayed with Showtime at some points only for the boxing.

I understand what you are saying. For me, the streaming services that I couldn't do without are FloSports and DirtVision because they heavily broadcast dirt track races from around the country. I like F1, but I am not willing to subscribe to another streaming service to watch their races when there are other forms of racing that I am more passionate about.

I get it that Apple paid F1 what they wanted for broadcast rights, but F1 is reducing the number of Americans with access to their product. That being said, maybe the number of potential viewers did not factor into the equation at all.

Exhibitman 11-04-2025 05:57 PM

FWIW, Darrell Waltrip is not signing TTM anymore. I got a package back today that I sent out months ago, unsigned, with a note that he is retiring and won't do any more TTM signings.


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