Thanks! I collect items related to barnstorming, so the Jackie Robinson All-Stars pennant particularly caught my attention as I don't believe I have ever seen one.

Jeff, the 1953-4 JR All-stars pennant is the second one I have seen. I purchased a green one a short while ago and just loaned it to the JR Museum in NY.

Rick

I'd love to see a picture. That is awesome!

My Jackie All-Stars collection includes:
- 1946 - A couple of 1946 Bob Feller Tour programs against the Jackie Robinson All-Stars (after Feller and Paige split up at the end of the tour, Feller played a few games against Jackie)
- 1949 - Programs in blue and black ink
- 1950 Broadside
- 1953 - Program. I also have 2 Negro League signed baseballs that based on the signators, I believe originate from this tour. They are two of the only Official Negro League balls that I have ever seen signed by Jackie.

sure Jeff, here you go. I posted a photo before when I bought it, but never a problem showing it again. There were a few other JR barnstorming pennants that listed some of the players names, but i believe this is the only one that is dated. Barnstorming stuff is difficult to find, sounds like you have found some really nice items.

Rick

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Amazing colors on this pennant, just beautiful …

Only I care about this, but I was able to get closer to completing the set of 1969 ASCO pennants in cloth. I had this but in badly faded condition. Still need Giants, Expos, and A’s (I have these in felt) and could upgrade condition of a few others.

Was able to get down to the National last night but it was pretty dry as far as pennants …

Not surprised. I have been to at least 8 Nationals, and have very rarely made any additions of significance to the collection. I have, however seen a few gems that I ended up winning from auction houses who were simply showing them off (but not selling) at the National.

Definitely knows better:

https://www.hugginsandscott.com/cgi-...l?itemid=61005

How on earth could they let those get through without disclaimers! :confused:

Great looking pennant. I noticed that the MLB logo on the cloth version is red instead of white on the felt version. Is that consistent across the other cloth pennants from ASCO?

Interesting. This one here is felt and it has the same color MLB stamp. Now there are many versions in felt, some with “THE VET”, etc. and done are pressed (stiff) felt that would have been mid 70s. I guess they had different colors.

This is the photo that I have in my Pennant Catalog. Sorry for the small image size but I can't find the full size image at the moment.

All repros, even the red bum?

Nah the Emmet Kelly is legit. The top two are repros. The green pennant could be, really have to hold it to know. Bottom two are vintage.

I'm surprised those creases in the paint didn't scare you off. I'm sure an upgrade is now on your wantlist. :p

Not at all. I’m fine with it. Paint is very heavy, can’t imagine a cloth version surviving without cracks.

Yeah that’s a “VET” pennant, mid 70s. These all share the ASCO designs, along with the ones with the circled M. (I think it’s an M?) Kyle knows a lot more about this and has written about it on his blog. I can only say, my first ever pennants purchased for me as a six year old in 1976 were Mets and Reds pennants with “VET” stamped on them. Bought at Veterans Stadium.

Going through my tubs I came across this guy, not a terribly pricey pennant but a beautiful design nonetheless. The logo screams 1960s. This one is likely from around 1967-68 as the tassels (tucked behind) are paper-like and not soft felt.

I know this Angel graphic has appeared on the LAA stadium pennant, but does he show up elsewhere before the name change to ‘California’?

Thanks Greg. I've updated my notes accordingly.

Incidentally, I'm still adding to my Pennant Catalog. It's now up 1,480 pennants
(including variations). If anyone's interested in the latest version, just let me know.

Vintage Boston pennant
 

I recently bought this pennant at an auction, and I am looking for any help about it's authenticity. I am a card guy and have never done anything with pennants, so any help is appreciated!

I have never seen anything like that, but the “red flag” for me is how crisp and new the lettering looks, as opposed to the fabric. Hopefully, I’m wrong.

1941 All Star Pennant
 

Hi, asking for a "friend." He has this pennant and wondered if anyone had any details on it beyond the obvious. How rare is it, what might be its value, etc.

Thanks.

Charlie

There was an auction awhile back where a Boston bar sold off a bunch of allegedly vintage pennants. Something like McGreevy’s? Anyway I thought I saw something like this pennant in the auction, which did contain many other pennants which clearly weren’t authentic. Not to say this one isn’t but hoping someone else knows more about what I am talking about …

Yep now I see it on Liveauctioneers. I have serious doubts that this is circa 1903, but it could be an old homemade pennant. It appears that the lettering is glued on and not sewn. That’s a red flag. Also a Boston Braves pennant from the same bar was auctioned, same type of canvas-like material, and it has the exact logo used on a late 40s pennants made by Keezer.

That being said it appears that you have a nice item that hung for a long time in what seems to be a legendary bar. So with documentation it still presumably has value. I’d still be interested in what others think but I feel confident saying someone made this many years ago specifically as an ornament for the bar.

Agree

Now I remember… yeah, the McGreevey stuff. But do we even know for sure it “hung for a long time”?

No, just a guess. I will say, the staining looks sort of deliberate, odd that it is mostly along both long edges.

The description of the item does not elude to it being “original” i.e. circa 1903. Just that it hung for a long time. I gotta believe, if they thought themselves that they had a 119 year old pennant of the first ALWS team, they would know to put it in a separate auction. Something like this, if it was original? Probably looking at a hundred grand.

Speaking of which, what is the most money known to be spent on a pennant? If my memory serves me correct, a 1919 White Sox “grommet style” pennant sold in auction for $34K. Any others in contention?

I believe the McGreevy items were mostly made in the last 20-25 years. That bar opened around the early 2000s I think. I would be very cautious to value any of their items beyond what modern reproductions and fantasy items go for.

Alan

Ah did not know that. I assumed this was some sort of legendary tavern.

This item is indeed from McGreeveys, which closed in early 2020 due to Covid. The bar was opened in 2008, and was patterned after the '3rd Base Saloon', which opened around the turn of the century, and is considered by many to be the first 'sports' bar. It was started my a man named Michael (Nuf Ced) McGreevy, who was a huge Boston baseball fan. He had an extreme amount of pictures and memorabilia in his bar, especially for the time period. When prohibition hit, it put him out of business. Most of the pictures and documents were donated to the Boston Public Library, where they still reside today.

When McGreevys opened in 2008, it was patterned after the original 3rd Base Saloon, so the owners went to the library and asked for copies of some of the old pictures to hang in the bar. They also sought out some original items to be displayed in the bar. I won a few of those as well, and they are indeed original.

During the auction a few months ago, the auctioneer would state whether the item was authentic, or a reprint. For this particular pennant, he stated that they did not know if was authentic or not.

I bought it with the assumption that it was not real. However, after putting my hands on it for the first time, I am wondering if it may be authentic.

Everyone's help is much appreciated. I guess my next question would be, who could I take it to that could inspect the fabric/lettering/etc and tell what time period it is from?

Honestly, I’m not sure anyone will be able to even remotely pin that down for you. The material appears to be unlike anything used in mass produced pennants, of any age, if this is homemade there’s almost no way of telling.

That one (from the Sotheby's Halper Auction) did hold the record until this one eclipsed it...

https://robertedwardauctions.com/auc...rsized-pennant

And even if you knew the age of the canvas, you wouldn’t necessarily know the age of the pennant.

Managed to acquire this scarce Cubs pennant from the 1940s. Seems to use the same batter as on the Playball pennant, and the same font as the 1945 World Series pennant. Same manufacturer perhaps?

Beautiful pennant with great color. Also same batter graphic as on the 1942 Yankees. Looks like a little cubbie on the jersey?

Thanks. I love that little Cubbie on the batters uniform.

Thanks to Fballguy for attending the National and finding these pennants for me. Both are very rare and were high up on my want list. The fact that the 49ers is rare is maybe not surprising, as it looks old and different from many others of the period. The Giants is one of those ones that doesn't seem all that special until you try to find one.

I wish I had someone bird dogging for ME!!! :cool:

And two more. In super nice shape

Fantastic, Marc!

Picked this one up at the Pasadena City College Flea Market.

Any thoughts on value?
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I can’t say I’ve ever seen this before. I’ve seen this design but I believe for other teams and years. It’s not my cup of tea - I think it’s an Ad Flag? - but still objectively very very nice.

LA Dodgers pennants seem to underperform on eBay for some reason. But it’s rare enough that a LAD-only collector might splurge. I’d put this in the neighborhood of $175-250, possibly more. If it was SF Giants dated 1962? Make it a grand … ;)

Come to think of it, that ‘63 Dodgers might be WGN …. Kyle?

$200 - $250. One of the rarest/most sought after/best Dodgers Champs pennants from their time in LA. Pretty rare to find it with red felt… also was made in blue, green, burgundy and black.

Ricky: your pennant's by ADFLAG. And, it's quite rare. You scored a nice pick-up, for sure!

More commonly, this design was used on ADFLAG's 1959 NL champs pennants, of which they made three variants. They also made a WS champs pennant, that year, based upon the same design; and it is EXTREMELY rare.

When 1963 came around, it appears ADFLAG recycled most of the 1959 design and updated it for that year's series. They made three variants in 1963, all of which feature the inclusion of 1st base coach, Leo Durocher, which was certainly unusual.

I actually made a reproduction of this very pennant and you can read all about it (and the above variants from '59 and '63) here:

https://pennantfactory.weebly.com/bl...champs-pennant

Thanks for sharing!

Nice pickup, Ricky!

Anyone notice that STL Cardinals pennant that closed on eBay today? Holy mackerel. The Cardinals are like the GB Packers of MLB pennants. Another one with a torn tip also blew up …

Good stuff, Kyle!

Picked up these unusual football pennants recently. They have an ASCO mark, but no NFL mark. Seems strange. They are 3/4 size. There was also a 49ers pennant (which I why I bought the lot).

I really liked this one...the cowboy boots, the 10 gallon hat, the crossed bats for the "X", etc. Even with the staining, it got a pretty good price.

That one is really cool...being from Texas and all.
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It might be the only good (non generic) Texas Rangers pennant ever made. I think I’ve seen one other variation, but it was so long ago, the memory is fuzzy.

This is the other one Mark...

I was surprised it hit the price it did. I've see nicer ones sell for less. Timing is everything.

I like that one, too.. Rope lettering! :p

JR has a good following.

Yep, that’s it. Thanks, Rob for refreshing my memory. Pretty cool (and rare) for a more modern pennant.

New content just posted: Salem Screen Printers
 

I just posted a new piece on Pennant Fever covering a short-lived 20th century pennant maker we've never really discussed; and I'm anxious to hear your thoughts on it. This month, we'll take a look at Salem Screen Printers, a New England company more known for their shirts and sportswear; however, during the late 1980s/early 1990s, they made a few pennants I'm sure we've all seen that, in my opinion, warrant some recognition among us pennant collectors today.

See: https://pennantfever.weebly.com/

Also, I've posted new content on my other site: Pennant Factory. There you'll find some interesting material on "caricature pennants"; and the much discussed "grommet pennant" we've all been mystified by.

See: https://pennantfactory.weebly.com/

Whatever you decide to read, I hope you enjoy it. ;)

Next company on deck: The Reproduction Co. of Brooklyn, NY.

Great articles Kyle. I particularly liked the grommet pennants. I'm probably slow on the uptake but it never occurred to me that the grommets were a way to lower cost and reduce sewing. Thanks.

As it's been a bit slow on this thread lately, here's an update on the pennants in post #6529. I gave them a bit of a clean and they tidied up well.

Thought I’d give a little push to the thread … my buying has really slowed down but this was something on my wish list, as I already had the “sister” Browns pennant. These are clearly WGNs.

Also adding a few pics to push the feed along. Seems like the market is slow for everyone. Here are two additions for me over the last handful of months.

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That’s an amazing pickup, Greg. Love everything about that pennant!

Really did not need to see that one again, Greg. I gave it a good shot with a Best Offer, but you obviously bested me. Congrats... it actually looks incredible next to the matching Browns Pennant. It definitely found the right home!

Awesome pickups, Erik. Never seen that particular Tigers variation, and the Chiefs is such a toughie... especially in nice condition like yours. Great scores!

Very cool Erik. Have never seen either one. Tigers pennant is beautiful.

Ah … well thanks (and sorry!). I was actually surprised he took my offer, as Cardinals pennants seem to be going through the roof.

Great pickups, Greg and Erik! I'm glad someone is finding stuff. :mad:

:p

Decided to get more of my pennants out of the closet, so I bought these two sets of shelves that function as both display and storage.

Your display keeps getting better (which I didn’t think was possible)! Great pieces, display, and subject matter! Thanks for sharing! [emoji91]

Amazing Santa Clara collection!

Beautiful stuff Marc!

Who let that St. Mary's one in there!? ;)

Thanks, guys. Hopefully I'll have a few new pennants to post soon.

And St. Mary's was/is Santa Clara's rival, but I have to give respect to the Domer pennant find from which it came : ) There are a bunch of Houston Olilers and Astros pennants beneath that one St. Mary's pennant. The Santa Clara pennant from that find is framed and hanging elsewhere.

I sort of feel bad that there doesn't seem to be a St. Mary's collector with whom I can battle. I think Fballguy has more St. Mary's pennants than anyone I know, including a really cool early football pennant he picked up in the past year or so and a cool pink runner (St. Mary's wore pink uniforms for a few years). Feel free to post those, Rob.

And nice 1970 Super Bowl pennant, Erik.

Yeah, it must really suck to be able to get what you want with no competition. :p

Well, I don't really want St. Mary's stuff. It would be like you having Dodgers stuff (if there were no dodgers collectors and you just wanted to have some stuff from your rival around).

There is a bit of competition for Santa Clara stuff. But nothing like the Giants or 49ers.

My bad….I read that as there is no Santa Clara competition.

Worked out a trade today with bocca. Thanks, I needed that!

Congrats on the trade Rob. What's the pennant?

My latest pickup arrived in the mail this week

You’ll see it when it arrives :p. I never like to part with a pennant, but the one I sent Marc is pretty much a duplicate for me. Not quite, but close enough.

You find some great stuff, Gary! Phil Rizzuto had his own pennant? Who knew?