Awesome update, Ted.

You set the bar so high.

Ted, I find that Piedmont and Sovereign 150s can tend to be off center top-bottom, with a smaller top border. But that Sweet Cap 150s (fact 30 or otherwise) do not suffer a similar fate. Thoughts?

T206 REFERENCE....what backs are your favorite(s), and do you collect runs of them ?
 

Happy New Year, Ryan

Your observation is correct. Especially, with certain PIEDMONT 150 cards. The Green Cobb is one of the best
examples of off-center top-bottom, with a smaller top border. Here is the Cobb in my PIEDMONT set...........

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...iedmont150.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...edmont150b.jpg



TED Z
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T206 REFERENCE..Group of 36 subjects (350 Series) that are CB, EPDG, OM, PB NO-PRINTS
 

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I have identified a group of 36 subjects in the 350-only Series which are unique in this Series in that they share a common pattern. They were NOT PRINTED with
these four popular T206 backs....CAROLINA BRIGHTS, El PRINCIPE de GALES, OLD MILL, POLAR BEAR. The majority (190 subjects) in the 350-only Series
were printed with AMERICAN BEAUTY, BROAD LEAF, CYCLE, DRUM backs. And, including the CB, EPDG, OM, and PB backs.

Although, this group of 36 subjects is printed with the A - B - C - D backs, unlike the other 350-only Series subjects, these cards will not be found with CB, EPDG,
OM, and PB backs
I find this quite interesting, in that it tells us that these 36 guys are sort of "exclusive" with respect to the other 154 subjects in the 350-only Series. Furthermore,
it suggests that these 36 subjects were printed on a sheet of their own (composed of multiples of a 12 x 3 card format)….and, this press run was very early in the
game (circa Spring of 1910). I base this on my understanding that the CAROLINA BRIGHTS and POLAR BEAR backs were not printed until the Summer of 1910.

I'm sharing this information with you guys, who get a big kick out of putting together T206 runs. So you do not have to go off on a wild-goose chase searching for
certain cards that really do not exist.

Checklist of this "exclusive" group of 36 subjects that are 350-only series No-Prints with respect to CAROLINA BRIGHTS, EPDG, OLD MILL, POLAR BEAR backs.

Arndt
Becker
Butler
Cassidy
Charles
Donovan (throwing)
Doolan (fielding)
Downs
Fletcher
Hoffman (St Louis)
Howell (portrait)
Huggins (portrait)
Huggins (hands at mouth)
Hunter
Killian (portrait)
Knabe
Lennox
Malarkey
Marquard (portrait)
Marshall

McBride
McElveen
McGinley
McIntyre (Detroit)
Mitchell (Cincinnati)
Mitchell (Toronto)
Moran (Providence)
Myers (batting)
Paskert
Phelan
Poland
Rhoades (hands at chest)
Schmidt (portrait)
Starr
Street (portrait)
Summers


Any inputs regarding this subject are really appreciated.

Note.....
In my rush to post this, I forgot to include in my original post here that the EPDG backs are also No-Prints within this group of 36.
EPDG has been included now.


TED Z
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Great info !
 

Wow Ted. I’m always looking for patterns within the set to help me understand how everything fits together, and this is certainly a neat pattern that you have found. Thank you for sharing! It certainly seems that these 36 were printed, as you said, ‘exclusively’ of the others in the 190 card group.
How does this information fit with the ‘double name’ card of Rossman? Rossman is 350 only but does not belong in the 190 group because he isn’t available with the ABCD backs. However, there is a P350 ‘double name’ card of Rossman with McBride’s name at the top. One would think any double name card involving one of your 36 group would have BOTH players from the 36 grouping.
I hope my wording of all of that is somewhat coherent. I’d appreciate your thoughts. Thank you again for sharing the group of 36.

Sonny

Ted!! Your giving away some of our best secrets. :D

http://www.retro-gaming.it/videogioc...wargames20.jpg

The T206 set is one of the most fun sets to research!! I'll have to compare this list with the Tolstoi's and their populations compared to others from the main print group.

T206 REFERENCE..Group of 36 subjects (350 Series) that are CB, EPDG, OM, PB NO-PRINTS
 

Hi Sonny

Your wording is perfect.

OK, I'll start with displaying my simulated 48-card sheet of 350 Series T206's. I constructed this sheet years ago to get an idea how American Litho (ALC) printed these cards.
This sheet represents the 48 subjects (Major Leaguers) in the 1910 COUPON set. It is the only realistic source of how ALC printed the T206 cards. In this case, ALC simply took
an early 350 Series pre-printed sheet of cards and printed the COUPON brand on their backs. We have evidence as to the timeline of the COUPON's issue date from Macon (GA)
newspaper clippings (dated Feb 1910).

In the upper left 2 rows of this simulated sheet you will find McBride and Rossman. Rossman retired from MLB in Sept 1909. Therefore, he isn't part of the gang of 190 subjects
printed with the A-B-C-D backs which were introduced by ALC in the Summer of 1910.

Now, the 36 subject sheet, which I am referring to, was printed early in the game (circa Spring of 1910). I base this on my understanding that the CAROLINA BRIGHTS and the
POLAR BEAR backs were not printed until the Summer of 1910.


1910 COUPON (T213-1) Major League (48) subjects

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TED Z
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Thank you
 

Thank you Ted. That makes perfect sense. Rossman was grouped with McBride on a sheet printed early in the 350 only series. Then Rossman was pulled early in the series (hence he is only available with P350, SOV350 and SC 25 and 30 backs). Your group of 36 is a configuration that was printed shortly thereafter. I appreciate the insight.

The more I learn, the more questions I have. Lol.

Sonny

T206 REFERENCE..Group of 36 subjects (350 Series) that are CB, EPDG, OM, PB NO-PRINTS
 

Hi Sonny

You have it correct.

Feel free to ask me any questions regarding T206 cards. And, I will try to answer them.


TED Z
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T206 REFERENCE..Group of 36 subjects (350 Series) that are CB, EPDG, OM, PB NO-PRINTS
 

Ron

I would bet a T206 (or two) that approx. 1/2 of these 36 guys were printed with TOLSTOI backs. American Litho started printing the TOLSTOI brand early in the 350 Series game.

I look forward to your findings.


TED Z
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