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Cliff Bowman 08-09-2014 03:36 PM

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This is not my card nor is it my auction. It is currently on eBay. If I'm not supposed to do this, somebody please let me know. I was wondering if anyone has an opinion on it. I'm guessing that someone in the past 45 years whited out the Clarence Gaston square and colored in the circle with a marker. It is a very neat job if someone did, though. The back of the card has the normal printing, the seller put up a scan of both sides on the listing.

Exhibitman 08-09-2014 04:25 PM

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...t%20Wood_1.jpg

bnorth 08-09-2014 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman (Post 1308130)
This is not my card nor is it my auction. It is currently on eBay. If I'm not supposed to do this, somebody please let me know. I was wondering if anyone has an opinion on it. I'm guessing that someone in the past 45 years whited out the Clarence Gaston square and colored in the circle with a marker. It is a very neat job if someone did, though. The back of the card has the normal printing, the seller put up a scan of both sides on the listing.

The 2 major red flags for me is the added yellow in the logo area isn't even the same yellow in the name. Now for the even bigger give away. Right below ROOKIE STARS you can see were they got as little carried away with the solvent and messed up the red ink. There are a few more red flags but those 2 give me the most concern.

Would like to check it out in hand for the slim chance it is real but would not pay anywhere near the opening bid to do it.

JollyElm 08-10-2014 03:06 AM

I asked the seller a couple of very specific questions. We'll see how he answers them.

Footballdude 08-10-2014 09:02 PM

http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/...psc40bfaec.jpg

A 1976 Joe Rudi with almost invisible black lines and team name. Under magnification it looks light grey, probably low on black ink.

Footballdude 08-10-2014 09:22 PM

The 1969 rookie card above, with the missing picture, can easily be created with a common pencil eraser, and some careful masking. What makes me thick of a pencil eraser is the area under the word "rookie stars", some of the sky of the picture to the left, the red area that says "Bill Davis" and even parts of the black line seem to have parts where they got a little wild with the eraser. Someone else mentioned chemical removal, maybe bleaching. But it's pretty obvious it is a "creation" meant to deceive, maybe by the seller, or maybe by someone in the past and it has just been passed along in collections. Who knows.

Footballdude 08-10-2014 09:38 PM

http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1f4a4260.jpg

I've had these 2 cards since the early 70s. As a kid I always thought thy were magical, like I was seeing through the card, to the printing on the back. I eventually realized they were most probably "kiss prints". These probably occurred by placing one printed sheet on top of another, when the ink was not totally dry, so the image of the back printing of the top sheet got transferred to the top of sheet under it.

mrmopar 08-29-2014 01:50 PM

Not cards, but lots of slight variations on these photos:

http://1978theyearitallbegan.blogspo...b-picture.html

Have only scanned the collection for Garvey variations so far, but would guess other players have them too:

http://1978theyearitallbegan.blogspo...or-photos.html

bnorth 08-29-2014 04:28 PM

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My fingerprint collection. The McNertney cards have varying amounts of the print shown, I have found 3 main variations with the print showing.

savedfrommyspokes 08-29-2014 07:35 PM

Ben, can you tell if the prints match on the McCovey and McNertney cards....could it be Sy on both cards????


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