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tedzan 02-16-2020 09:10 PM

T206 Refer....MISSION (99%) ACCOMPLISHED American Bty 460 run. Show your favorite run
 
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Too many T-brands to choose from; however, I'd say my favorite are AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 and UZIT. As I previous noted the AB 460 cards were printed at the tail-end
of the T206 production runs (circa Jan 1911). We have evidence from American Lithographic ledgers which inform us that the UZIT cards were printed & issued Feb 1911.
This marked the "end of the trail" for T206 production. Early in the Spring of 1911, American Litho switched into their Gold-bordered sets (T80, T205, etc.).
For all practical purposes we can consider the American Beauty 460 cards and the UZIT cards as "IDENTICAL TWINS". I am convinced that these two sub-sets of 74 cards
with identical T206 fronts were printed simultaneously. The AB 460 cards were shipped to the Durham (NC) Tobacco Factory (#42)….and, the UZIT cards were shipped to
the New York City Tobacco Factory (#30) to be inserted in their respective Cigarette packs.

Having said all that, let's now take a look at these "twins". The AB 460 McGraw is not a tough card to find. Its UZIT counterpart is virtually impossible. This UZIT McGraw
is the only one known (1/1).


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...cGrawGlove.jpg . . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ZITxSGC30x.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...GrawGloveB.jpg . . . . . . . . . . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...loveUZITxb.jpg




The AB 460 Herzog is a very tough card to find. And, its UZIT counterpart is virtually impossible....in fact this UZIT Herzog is the only one known (1/1).

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...0Herzog50x.jpg . . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...erzogSGC45.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...UZITx37b_1.jpg





The AB 460 Wiltse (pitching) is quite the tough card to find. However, I did not have a tough time finding his UZIT counterpart.

AB 460
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...sePitching.jpg . . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ITWiltse50.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...TWiltse50b.jpg





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tedzan 02-17-2020 08:24 AM

T206 Refer....MISSION (99%) ACCOMPLISHED American Bty 460 run. Show your favorite run
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie (Post 1955547)
I had a Fred Payne AB460, but traded it away for a bunch of T205's. I have too many projects going, and AB460 looks like a long slog. I am still gradually working on Cycle460, but there is a lot of competition on those too.

Here's another Howell port. Neat touch I thought of signed provenance card...

Rob

Gee, had I known you had an AB 460 Payne to trade, I would have given you a bunch of T205's (or whatever) for Payne.
For at least 10 years now, I've tried to replace the beat-up Payne in my AB 460 set, but could not find one.


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tedzan 02-17-2020 08:45 AM

T206 Refer....MISSION (99%) ACCOMPLISHED American Bty 460 run. Show your favorite run
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by t206kid (Post 1955680)
I have 30/74 on the AB460 subset. It’s sort of hot and cold since they don’t come up too often.

Nice job on that scarcity list. I pretty much agree across the board

Hey Jay

You're a young dude....don't give up on the AB 460 run. It's a long-term project that you will be proud of when you have acquired all 74 cards to complete it.

Will I see you at the Philly Show at the end of this month ?


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RCMcKenzie 02-17-2020 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 1955798)
Rob

Gee, had I known you had an AB 460 Payne to trade, I would have given you a bunch of T205's (or whatever) for Payne.
For at least 10 years now, I've tried to replace the beat-up Payne in my AB 460 set, but could not find one.


TED Z
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I hope it's okay to say, I traded it to JayK. I was happy with the return, as I'm working on some T205 back projects. I'm still picking up AB350 NF here and there.

Incidentally, one of the AB460's I still have is the fairly easy to find Crandall hat exclusive12 card for a back run I have had going for about 10 years. I think there is only one Crandall hat UZIT known. David Hall had it and it sold recently. I should have bought it...Rob

tedzan 02-17-2020 11:22 AM

T206 Refer....MISSION (99%) ACCOMPLISHED American Bty 460 run. Show your favorite run
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie (Post 1955826)
I hope it's okay to say, I traded it to JayK. I was happy with the return, as I'm working on some T205 back projects. I'm still picking up AB350 NF here and there.

Incidentally, one of the AB460's I still have is the fairly easy to find Crandall hat exclusive12 card for a back run I have had going for about 10 years. I think there is only one Crandall hat UZIT known. David Hall had it and it sold recently. I should have bought it...Rob

Hi Rob

The T206 Monster never fails to surprise us. I find it quite interesting that the Exclusive 12 (of which your Crandall is one) are somewhat easy to find with AB 460 cards (relative
to the other 62 subjects in the AB 460 sub-set). Yet, the Exclusive 12 guys are absolutely the most difficult to find with the UZIT back.

There are only 5 subjects (so far) in the Exclusive 12 group that have been confirmed with UZIT. David Hall probably had 4 of them in his master T206 set. They are......Crandall,
Geyer, Hummel, and Sheckard.

I have the 5th one.....this McGraw. Which was discovered back in the late 1970's. It was in a collection of T206's that laid dormant in Pennsylvania for 40 years. And, I was lucky
to acquire this collection 3 years ago.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ZITxSGC30x.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...loveUZITxb.jpg


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RCMcKenzie 02-17-2020 02:44 PM

Otis Crandall
 
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That McGraw UZIT is a nice one, Ted. Here is my AB460 Crandall, along with a few more from the back run. I'm going to do an inventory, and figure out which other ones I need. I've had this run on the back burner for a while...

tedzan 02-17-2020 03:50 PM

T206 Refer....MISSION (99%) ACCOMPLISHED American Bty 460 run. Show your favorite run
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie (Post 1955902)
That McGraw UZIT is a nice one, Ted. Here is my AB460 Crandall, along with a few more from the back run. I'm going to do an inventory, and figure out which other ones I need. I've had this run on the back burner for a while...

Rob

Here is the complete run for each of the Exclusive 12 subjects. You have a nice start on the Crandall....go for it.

Besides the UZIT, the toughest backs for your Crandall will be....EPDG, CYCLE 460, and OLD MILL.

I may have an OLD MILL / Crandall, if you are interested.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...UZITxSGC30.jpg. http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...edHINDUsgc.jpg.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...tory30xx12.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...loveUZITxb.jpg . . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...dHINDUsgcB.jpg


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...VxPd4xPBxx.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...SOVxPd4xPB.jpg
Factory #42...................Factory #42




http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...LxAB460xOM.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...YCLE460x18.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...xAB460xOMb.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...CLE460x18b.jpg


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RCMcKenzie 02-17-2020 05:29 PM

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Nice Mcgraw run, fun to see all the backs...Thank you for offering an OM Crandall, Ted. I do happen to have that one. I do still need UZIT, Cycle460, and EPDG. I'll have to keep my eyes open for them...Rob

tedzan 02-17-2020 07:50 PM

T206 Refer....MISSION (99%) ACCOMPLISHED American Bty 460 run. Show your favorite run
 
Rob

Really great run of Doc Crandall. If I see an EPDG and/or CYCLE 460 cards of Crandall, I will get them for you.

I like to collect rookie cards of NY Highlanders, so here is my Russ Ford back run from the Exclusive 12 group.

Ford holds a pitching record that may have never been equalled. Most games WON in his rookie season (26-6)
in 1910. Furthermore, a total of 48 games Won in his first two seasons with Highlanders.

Like your Crandall run, I also need the UZIT & EPDG to complete this 13-card run. Fortunately, the CYCLE 460
Ford was in that same collection that I got the McGraw UZIT. There were several tough front / back combos in
that small collection of T206's.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...2FordRHx50.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...FordRHx50b.jpg



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...SCxOMxTolx.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...vSCxOMxTol.jpg
Factory #42



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...2ovptPBx25.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ovptPBx25b.jpg
Factory #42



Factory #30
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...Cfactory30.jpg



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t206kid 02-17-2020 09:25 PM

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This is my favorite run!


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