Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>There is no argument that the Red portrait Cobb was American Lithographic's &quot;signature picture&quot; for its white<br> bordered T-card sets. This picture of Cobb appears on at least 30 white bordered cards with various Tobacco<br>advertising backs. But, there appears to be some argument regarding the relative scarcity of its 11 toughest<br> T206 backs. So, let's run a survey and see what results.<br><br><br><br><img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/abredcobbsov460.jpg" alt="[linked image]"><br><br><img src="http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd339/tz1234zaz/broadleaf460back.jpg" alt="[linked image]"><br><br><br><br>I will start this survey with 2 of my 4 red Cobb cards.<br><br>0....BROAD LEAF 460<br>0....DRUM<br>0....HINDU (red)<br>0....LENOX (black) <br>0....UZIT<br>1....SOVEREIGN 460<br>1....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 42<br>0....CAROLINA BRIGHTS<br>0....AMERICAN BEAUTY 350<br>0....CYCLE 460<br>0....EPDG<br><br><br><br>OK, guys and gals.....how about running up the numbers.....show and/or tell us about your red Cobb(s) ?<br><br>Remember, this survey is not limited to just these 11 backs....any Red Cobb is welcome to this study.<br><br><br>Thanks for your time an effort responding to this survey.<br><br><br>TED Z<br><br>

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>andy becker</b><p>when i collected red cobbs, i had:<br><br>sov 460<br>cb<br>piedmont 42<br><br>i no longer own any of these.

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>stefan</b><p>piedmont 42 and tolstoi.

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>stefan</b><p>American beauty 350 with frame.

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>I have one Piedmont350-460 Factory 42!

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>Bob Manning</b><p>Sweet Cap 350

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>Richard</b><p>I had a lenox that I crossed from a GAI 2 holder to an SGC 2 holder. I also own one factory 42 and one carolina brights.

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>Jim Rivera</b><p>Sovereign 350

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>peter ullman</b><p>i have none...but...it seems there are a lot of pied fact 42's out there...odd?

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>Brian E.</b><p>Of the T206 Cobb Red Portraits that I consider scarce backs I have<br><br>On your list:<br><br>Lenox (on ebay right now)<br>Carolina Brights<br>Piedmont F42<br><br>Not on your list:<br>Broadleaf 460<br>American Beauty<br>Cycle 460<br>EPDG<br>

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>Richard</b><p>Broadleaf 460 clearly belongs on the short list. Perhaps at or near the top.

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>stefan</b><p>broadleaf, and hindu's should be at the top.

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>Brian E.</b><p>I would say that a Cobb Hindu Red or Black is more difficult to find than a Lenox or Uzit. Just my thoughts after looking for a Cobb hindu for a few years

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>barry arnold</b><p>just a good ole regular Piedmont 350 that i'll never part with,Ted. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif"><br><br>best,<br><br>barry

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>Aaron Seefeldt</b><p>Great thread Ted.<br>

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>Frank A.</b><p>Have a Sweet Cap 350 back, fac. 25. Frank A.

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p><img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/abredcobbsov460.jpg" alt="[linked image]"><br><br><br>1st....As I've already stated, the BROAD LEAF 460 is not on the list because there is no debate that<br> it is absolutely the scarcest. Anyhow, I doubt that more than 2 examples would be reported here.<br><br>2nd....This survey was mainly prompted by a discussion regarding the relative scarcity of this Cobb<br> with DRUM, LENOX, Red HINDU and UZIT backs. I added the CAROLINA BRIGHTS, PIEDMONT 460/42<br> and the SOVEREIGN 460 to this survey because I feel that these 3 are also quite scarce. But, since<br> some have requested here, I now have added AMERICAN BEAUTY 350, CYCLE 460 and EPDG backs<br> to this survey.<br><br>OK, get this straight....the order that the backs are listed here has no relation to their scarcity......<br>that is what we are trying to determine from this survey.<br><br>Updated survey......<br><br>0....DRUM<br>0....HINDU (red)<br>2....LENOX (black) <br>0....UZIT<br>2....SOVEREIGN 460<br>6....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 42<br>3....CAROLINA BRIGHTS<br>2....AMERICAN BEAUTY 350<br>1....CYCLE 460<br>1....EPDG<br><br><br>Good start, guys; but, we need a lot more inputs to get an accurate sampling. Where are all the Red<br> Cobb's that I know are out there in Net54-land ?<br><br><br>TED Z<br><br>

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>Art M.</b><p>Ted,<br>Here are the T206 Cobb, red, cards that I have:<br>American beauty 350 with frame<br>Carolina brights<br>Cycle 460<br>Old Mill<br>Piedmont 350, factory 25<br>Piedmont 350-460, factory 42<br>Polar Bear<br>Sovereign 350<br>Sovereign 460<br>Sweet Cap 350, factory 30<br>Sweet Cap 350-460, factory 30<br>Sweet Cap 350-460, factory 42 with overprint<br>Tolstoi<br>T213 Coupon, type 2<br><br>Good luck with the survey.<br>Art

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>UPDATED survey....4/3/09....adding Art's inputs and an email from a Net54 reader.<br><br>0....DRUM<br>1....HINDU (red)<br>2....LENOX (black)<br>0....UZIT<br>3....SOVEREIGN 460<br>7....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 42<br>4....CAROLINA BRIGHTS<br>4....AMERICAN BEAUTY 350<br>2....CYCLE 460<br>1....EPDG<br><br><br>So far, only 24 inputs......it would be nice to get 100+ responses.<br><br>This is a very popular card, how about it Net54er's, tell us of your Red Cobb (s) ?<br><br><br>TED Z<br><br>

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>Golly, Ted... you asked to hear about my red portrait Cobb. I have one, the only one I've ever had in the white border set. It isn't on you're list, because it's common I reckon... Piedmont 350-460 factory 25. Now I've told you about my red Cobb, as asked!!

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>J Hull</b><p>Mine's also not on your list, Ted.<br> <br>Sweet Caporal 350-460 with overprint.<br>

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>You have a T206 Cobb (bat off shoulder) with a rare back that NONE of the Red Cobb collector's have (and will never have).<br><br>An AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 back....and, I know you are very proud of this card <img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif"><br><br>Regards,<br><br>TED Z<br><br>

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>Bruce Babcock</b><p>I have a Sweet Cap 350, Factory 30. Not rare. <br><br>Nobody asked but my green portrait is an Old Mill Factory 25. Also not rare.<br><br>But they are two of my favorites and, although I've sold almost all of my T206s, I can't seem to part with these.

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Posted By: <b>Mark Tylicki</b><p><img src="http://www.rustywilly.com/cards/PSACARD/8150887_011_FRONT.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> <img src="http://www.rustywilly.com/cards/PSACARD/8150887_011_BACK.jpg" alt="[linked image]"><br><br>------------------------------<br>MY COLLECTION: <a href="http://www.rustywilly.com/MYCOLLECTION.htm" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.rustywilly.com/MYCOLLECTION.htm</a>

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>David R</b><p>I have one red Cobb. It has an Old Mill back.

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>Scott Levy</b><p>Wow 7 P42s. That is an impressive hoard of those toughies....

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>Craig W</b><p>Hi Ted,<br><br>I have a Piedmont Factory 42 and a Polar Bear.<br><br>Craig<br><br>

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Thanks for all your inputs, guys. Also, I have received 6 emailed inputs from Net54 readers.<br>I'll tally up the data and post an updated list later tonite.<br><br>For you guys who have posted your Cobb's with backs other than these 10 scarcest ones,<br> I appreciate your inputs and near the end of this survey these backs will also be tallied.<br><br>We are on a roll here, keep the inputs rolling in. We can't have enough Red Cobb's....can we ?<br><br><br>TED Z<br><br>

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>Dave Hornish</b><p>Ted, since you are doing an overall tally as well my Red Cobb is a Piedmont 350, as I suspect many others are as well.

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>The most often seen backs on the Red Cobb's are......<br><br>PIEDMONT 350 Factory 25 <br><br>SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 30<br><br>POLAR BEAR<br><br><br><br>TED Z<br><br>

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Thanks guys and 6 inputs emailed from Net54 readers.<br><br>UPDATED survey....4/4/09<br><br>0....DRUM<br>1....HINDU (red)<br>3....LENOX (black)<br>0....UZIT<br>3....SOVEREIGN 460<br>9....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 42<br>4....CAROLINA BRIGHTS<br>7....AMERICAN BEAUTY 350<br>3....CYCLE 460<br>2....EPDG<br><br><br>OK, we have 32 total inputs....we need a lot more data points here in order to arrive at some valid conclusions.<br><br>Check-out your Red Cobb's and tell us about them ?<br><br><br>TED Z<br><br><br>

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>Lee Behrens</b><p>Probably no surprise but I have a Cycle 460. I have noticed that people posted about cards they once owned, are they being counted?<br><br>Lee

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>Rick McQuillan</b><p>HI Ted,<br>You can put me down for a Piedmont 350/460 25/2.<br><br>Thanks,<br>Rick

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Thanks for your CYCLE 460 input.....I rarely see a Red Cobb with this back.<br><br>All inputs are being tallied....even if you do not have your Red Cobb, anymore.<br><br><br>TED Z<br><br>

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>hennessey</b><p>Ted, I have 1 with a polar bear back for your survey

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>David McDonald</b><p>Ted: I have a Red Cobb with Old Mill back (per my e-mail last night).<br>DMcD

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>Bill</b><p>Ted,<br><br>My Red Cobb has a Tolstoi back. Bill

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Thanks for all your inputs. The daily update will be posted as soon as I can sort out the 5 emails<br>that I received on this subject from Net54 readers.<br><br>TED Z<br><br>

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p><img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/abredcobbsov460.jpg" alt="[linked image]"><br><br><br><br>UPDATED survey....4/5/09<br><br>Scarcest group......<br><br>0....DRUM<br>1....HINDU (red)<br>3....LENOX (black)<br>0....UZIT<br>3....SOVEREIGN 460<br>9....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 42<br>4....CAROLINA BRIGHTS<br>7....AMERICAN BEAUTY 350<br>4....CYCLE 460<br>2....EPDG<br><br>Next group......<br><br>2....TOLSTOI<br>4....OLD MILL<br>2....SOVEREIGN 350<br>2....SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 42 (ovpt)<br>2....SWEET CAPORAL 46O Factory 30<br>1....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 25<br>2....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 30<br>6....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 25<br>7....POLAR BEAR<br><br><br>OK, we have 61 total inputs....we need a lot more data points here in order to arrive at some valid conclusions.<br><br>Check-out your Red Cobb's and tell us about them ?<br><br><br>TED Z<br><br>

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>jackgoodman</b><p>Put me down for a Piedmont fact 25 and a Tolstoi.

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Thanks JACK G for your input. And, there are 4 more inputs from Net54 readers.<br><br><br><img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/abredcobbsov460.jpg" alt="[linked image]"><br><br><br>UPDATED survey....4/6/09<br><br>Scarcest group......<br><br>0....DRUM<br>1....HINDU (red)<br>3....LENOX (black)<br>0....UZIT<br>3....SOVEREIGN 460<br>9....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 42<br>4....CAROLINA BRIGHTS<br>7....AMERICAN BEAUTY 350<br>4....CYCLE 460<br>2....EPDG<br><br>Next toughest group......<br><br>2....SOVEREIGN 350<br>0....SWEET CAPORAL 46O Factory 25<br>1....SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 42<br>2....SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 42 (ovpt)<br>4....TOLSTOI<br>4....OLD MILL<br><br>The easier ones......<br><br>2....SWEET CAPORAL 46O Factory 30<br>1....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 25<br>2....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 30<br>6....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 25<br>4....PIEDMONT 350 Factory 25<br>7....POLAR BEAR<br><br><br>OK, we have 68 total inputs; but, we need a lot more data points here in order to arrive at some valid conclusions.<br><br>Guys &amp; gals, do not be shy about telling us of your Red Cobb cards.....check-out your T206's and post them here ?<br><br><br>TED Z<br><br>

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Ted, I'll post mine tonight. Also, this survey cannot be complete until the carpet guy from Michigan chimes in after he's done rioting after basketball tonight. He's the Nelson &amp; Bunker Hunt of red Cobbs.

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p><img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif"> still looking forward to seeing your Cobb's <img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif"><br><br><br>TED Z<br><br>

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Posted By: <b>Kenny Cole</b><p>Mine has a Polar Bear back.

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Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>cycle 350<br>2 sweet caporal 30 NY

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Posted By: <b>Martin Neal</b><p>Piedmont 350 factory 25

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Posted By: <b>Mike</b><p>Sweet Caporal 350 Factory # 30.

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Prillaman</b><p>picked up 4 red Border Cobbs today<br><br>three are 350/460 25/2<br>the other is Old Mill Factory 25/2nd district

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Thanks guys for posting your Cobb's and thanks to all the Net54 readers that've contacted me.<br><br><br><img src="http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/abredcobbsov460.jpg" alt="[linked image]"><br><br><br>UPDATED survey....4/7/09<br><br>Scarcest group......<br><br>..1....BROAD LEAF 460<br>..0....DRUM<br>..1....HINDU (red)<br>..3....LENOX (black)<br>..0....UZIT<br>..3....SOVEREIGN 460<br>10....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 42<br>..5....CAROLINA BRIGHTS<br>..4....CYCLE 460<br>..2....EPDG<br><br>Next toughest group......<br><br>..7....AMERICAN BEAUTY 350<br>..1....CYCLE 350<br>..3....SOVEREIGN 350<br>..0....SWEET CAPORAL 46O Factory 25<br>..1....SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 42<br>..2....SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 42 (ovpt)<br>..5....TOLSTOI<br>..7....OLD MILL<br><br>The easier ones......<br><br>..2....SWEET CAPORAL 46O Factory 30<br>..1....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 25<br>..9....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 30<br>10....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 25<br>10....PIEDMONT 350 Factory 25<br>..9....POLAR BEAR<br><br><br>OK, we have 96 total inputs.....but, we need many more data points in order to arrive at some <br>valid conclusions.<br><br>Guys &amp; gals, do not be shy about telling us of your Red Cobb cards....hop onto this bandwagon<br> and add your Cobb to this list. Who will be the first to reach the 100th input ?<br><br><br><br>TED Z<br><br>

Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?
 

Posted By: <b>Scott Levy</b><p>Ted,<br><br>You are a pro at front back variations....what's the deal with 10 factory 42s -- seems way out of line with that back's perceived scarcity.