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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>DR</b><p>I am having a problem transaction with William Bustos, Whittier, CA, callofduty@charter.net. A card purchased on eBay has writing (someone tried to erase) on the reverse and minor paper loss. The auction description stated no paper loss. The card is graded PSA 7 and William refuses a refund stating 'I am just getting tired of coming out on the short end of each transaction'. Does anyone know this seller, able to help or have suggestions? Please let this serve as a warning!<br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=018&sspagename=STRK%3AME WN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=280043805283&rd=1&rd=1" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><a href="<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=018&sspagename=STRK%3AME WN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=280043805283&rd=1&rd=1</a" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=018&sspagename=STRK%3AME WN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=280043805283&rd=1&rd=1</a</a>" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=018&sspagename=STRK%3AME WN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=280043805283&rd=1&rd=1</a</a>>" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=018&sspagename=STRK%3AME WN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=280043805283&rd=1&rd=1</a</a>></a>;
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>Judge Dred (Fred)</b><p>Do you have the ebay item description number? How did it get encapsulated into a PSA7 holder if it has paper loss and writing on the back?
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>warshawlaw</b><p>too easy <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>DR</b><p>I just filed a claim with eBay. This seller should be avoided unless you want to buy from someone that does not have a return policy. What a jerk! Told me I want a refund because I overextended myself. Please. This guy is not only a crook but arrogant fool. The no Paypal should have been a clue to me. Once again, DO NOT BUY FROM WILLIAM BUSTOS unless you want to be in my situation!
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>edacra</b><p>In the same situation, only the cards I bought were raw T201's with light pencil writing on the back that wasn't visible in the auction. Looked like someone made a swirly M on all of his cards. <br /><br />He took a long time to respond, to the several emails, I sent, then finally agreed to a refund. I have yet to get my money back.<br /><br />
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>DR</b><p>The same swirly M on the reverse. Obviously this could not have come as a shocker to William Bustos. However, he feels PSA is at fault. My opinion is BOTH of them are at fault. I would think the card should have been taken to PSA or checked in lieu of the other cards (likely from the same deal) having writing on the backs. My first email to William Bustos was ignored. Only until eBay was involved did he reply. All in all...as you can plainly see....AVOID!!!
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>Bryan</b><p>but, you bought a PSA 7 and got a PSA 7. If the card has been entombed, why is any further description nessesary?
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>DR</b><p>The seller in the listing contract stated NO PAPER LOSS. It has writing, eraser marks and paper loss. If the seller did not state NO PAPER LOSS I would have sent an email asking about the return policy and any back damage before the auction ended. However, when the seller stated in the description NO PAPER LOSS, I assumed the back was inspected. Talk about critical details being left out and an outright LIE about the NO PAPER LOSS. If the scans were high resolution, we would not be having this discussion. The low resolution images might be an attempt to hide flaws. Also, another Net54 member had the same problem with the same seller recently and my card was a different issue. Seems like I am not the only person being taken advantage of by the seller.
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>Judge Dred (Fred)</b><p>Can you give us an item number so that we can look at the item description? Bryan, in the previous post, made a very good point. If it's in a PSA7 holder then there shouldn't be much to worry about. Or is that line of thinking flawed? Ut-oh, does this sound like the beginnings of another PSA bashing thread? I suppose we should hold off until we at least see a scan of the card.
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>ScottIngold</b><p>"I want a refund because I overextended myself"<br /><br />Seller might have a problem with the above. I am assuming that was your statement to him of course.
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>steve f</b><p> D R has a valid complaint. He didn't inquire about the slab, but of the card. The seller, malicious or otherwise, erred... 100% refund should be granted. <br /><br /> D R, Provide the seller the link to this thread and if he's a sensible fellow, I'd bet you'll recieve compensation. Good luck
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>DR</b><p><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280013839205" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280013839205</a><br /><br /> Card identified as misgraded by many. Seller knew but tried to force sale NO WAY<br /> Buyer starseeker15( 1237) Oct-21-06 15:38 280013839205 <br /><br />William Bustos is simply banking on PSA. If PSA states a card is such and such it must be. I do not think this is right. What if the cards was SGC, PRO, ASA, etc.? Are we just buying holders? If you are not going to have a return policy, state it in the auction. Also, do not list a card as NO PAPER LOSS when it clearly has paper loss. Maybe William Bustos need his eyes checked?
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>Judge Dred (Fred)</b><p><FONT SIZE=+2, COLOR=RED><B>CAN YOU PROVIDE AN EBAY ITEM NUMBER FOR THIS CARD?</B></FONT>
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>Judge Dred (Fred)</b><p>That's another example... so where's the first example (yours)....
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>Dan Koteles</b><p>is it possible that you bought a card in a switched holder ?
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>DR</b><p>Item #280043805283<br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=018&sspagename=STRK%3AME WN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=280043805283&rd=1&rd=1" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=018&sspagename=STRK%3AME WN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=280043805283&rd=1&rd=1</a>
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>DR</b><p>I do not think the card or holder has been switched. The pencil mark on the back is consistent with other cards by the seller (see above post by another board member going through the same problem). I will post the scan of the card below very soon. Please check out the image:<br /><img src="http://collectabit.com/stevensmk.jpg"><br /><br />
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>edacra</b><p><br /><br />In case anyone missed it the first time I said it...<br /><br />I returned 2 cards with pencil mark on the reverse from the same seller. <br /><br />The pencil was very light and did not appear in the auctions scan (and I was careful since every other card had some markings). One can reasonably deduct that this seller has a group of cards signed by some kid the same way you see Zeenuts marked by the original collector. <br /><br />While I personally can't see any pencil in the scan above using my Ibook, there is NO REASON to doubt the accusation just because PSA is involved. <br /><br />You now have two board members experiencing the same problem. The poor guy who spent three thousand dollars on a card shouldn't be the one in question. <br /><br />Oh, and if Mr. Bustos is reading this, I'm looking forward to my $74 refund via paypal, that you promised me, and hope you mean well.<br />
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>DR</b><p>The mark is on the top right of the card with the dreaded W or M more likely. Mr. William Bustos handled this situation is a less then professional manner. My original request was for a $100 partial refund or a full refund. $100 was just to be done with this situation.
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>Cat</b><p>Folks:<br /><br />We had a huge thread on this card before. I remember the listing. I used to own this card, in the holder shown below, and sold it to a dealer (skips my mind at this point as to who it was specifically). That dealer sold it at the National (about 90% sure it was at the National). The card was cracked and regraded to its present PSA 5 state and sold. Notice that one of the questions in the listing asks about the tear on the lower right side of the card.<br /><br /><br /><img src="http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6741/bffjohnsondg2.jpg">
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>There was a thread recently thrashing GAI. Looks to me like they have moved up in to the number 2 position in grading as far as honest and impartial grading goes. Who would use PSA any more? Oh yea, I forgot, their slabs bring more money. That is the only reason to buy PSA graded cards- if you want to flip them...
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>Cat</b><p>The old thread:<br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/thread/1154548012/last-1155261924/Seriously%2C+how+is+this+a++5" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/thread/1154548012/last-1155261924/Seriously%2C+how+is+this+a++5</a>-
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>Judge Dred (Fred)</b><p>David got screwed on this one.<br /><br />And we're off....<br /><br />PSA graded this a "7" - I think they are somewhat responsible for this problem because if I were to see a PSA7 card for sale (lower res scan) I would make a few basic assumptions and a couple of those would include no marks (or indications of erased marks) or paper loss. The seller in this case is a real A-hole because he went out of the way to indicate NO PAPER LOSS. <br /><br />With that said - let the PSA bashing begin!<br /><br />Why don't we see a PSA banner at the top of the page?
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Won't PSA just agree to make good on this? I would think they'd want to remove this card from circulation.
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>Todd Schultz</b><p>it is a reasonable assumption that a PSA 7 will have no marks or erasures. PSA will put a mk qualifier on any card with a mark or erasure, even a PSA 1, and of course, this slab had no qualifiers. They blew it on this card, and yes, the seller knew he pulled one over on them. Another black eye for the hobby.
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>PSA make good? LMFAO!!! That means admitting they made a mistake and we all know that they don't do that. <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Jay<br><br>I love pinatas. You get to beat the crap of something and get rewarded with candy.
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>edacra</b><p>Strange.<br /><br />Now I do see that little swirly marking...but the markings I was talking about covered the entire back of the cards I was sent. One end to the other, with what might have been a dull library pencil.<br /><br />If we're ruling out the idea he's selling off a collection of this pencil marked stuff, then I don't even know what to think.<br /><br />
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>James Gallo</b><p>Well I guess it really does come down to by the card not the holder.<br /><br />I agree that since no paper loss was stated then you should get a refund.<br /><br />And there is NO WAY GAI is more accurate then PSA. PSA may make more mistakes but when you get a GAI 4 card with two pin holes in it then you know how bad they really are. I won't buy a GAI card unless I see it in person.<br /><br /><br />Regardless this guy does sound like scum.<br /><br />James Gallo<br><br>Looking for 1915 Cracker Jacks and 1909-11 American Caramel E90-1.
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>That's funny Jim, I have the same attitude about PSA cards, I won't buy them unless I at least see a scan. Their grading has slipped with regard to pre-war cards, although I believe they are better than PRO.
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>quan</b><p>but i will never buy a graded card unseen. if there's a problem the seller can just absolve to the grading company. however i will buy raw cards from a few people unseen because i trust their grading as long as they give a thorough description.<br /><br />for what it's worth i think the bustos dude sells cards for a "friend". gave him a bank cashier check one time but he said his friend would only take postal money orders...(which is far easier to counterfeit and can't be verified on the spot like the cc).
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>edacra</b><p>My refund arrived today in the form of a check. <br /><br />He may have taken a few bucks out for either the postage, or his listing fees (though I'd have to double check that, maybe he did refund in full). I'm assuming it will clear. I paid him via paypal and expected the refund to appear there.<br /><br />Hope there's some resolution with the PSA graded card. Good luck.
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>edacra-arcade</b><p>The seller in question just contacted me in response to this thread, via Ebay. <br /><br />He's under the impression that it took a month for me to pay for his auction, and that this is relevant enough that I should have disclosed that to the board, for some reason. My recollection is that I paid promptly via PayPal, since it was an option using "pay for ebay items", and I mailed promptly to let him know. He took a month to claim the money, since he normally doesn't accept paypal at all. <br /><br />Mr. Bustos, if you're reading this, I hope this is the clarification you feel you deserved, and that this somehow vindicates you. Thanks for the refund, and I hope you have better luck representing your merchandise accurately in the future, as I'm sure that's your intention.
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>DR</b><p>If WILLIAM BUSTOS is aware of this message board and has yet to reply my guess is he has reservations about the way he treated me and others. Get a backbone, do what is right and defend yourself. eBay called me on the phone tonight to see if they could help. Wow. This amazed me! It has now become my mission to inform everyone about Mr. William Bustos and plan to do everything in my power to legally ruin his chances on eBay or message boards. Was it worth it? I have posted on PSA, plan to post on SGC, Beckett, and will also contact others. My original request was for a full refund OR just a $100 partial refund and to admit the card was not graded correctly. For $100, I would have jumped at this chance to avoid the bad press and fallout.
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>T206Collector</b><p>If you buy a card from the Big 3 (PSA/SGC/GAI) and it does not meet your expectations in terms of standards, then your beef is with the grading company, not the seller. If PSA won't make it right, SGC certainly would. That is why so many of us don't buy PSA graded pre-war cards. <br /><br />The headaches described in each of these threads could have been avoided if you concentrated on building an SGC based collection. The reason I switched from PSA years ago was because I got tired of picking up creased or trimmed T206 cards graded PSA 5. <br /><br />Has it occurred to anyone that the only cards being sold in PSA holders are those that would not crossover into SGC slabs? If I dumped 10 PSA cards on ebay like this in my modest collection, how many other SGC fans have done the same?<br /><br />
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>steve b</b><p>Everyone has their own card company they like. Why would PSA grade a trimmed card. If they measured it and it was trimmed they will not grade it. If i am correct, PSA has 2 people grade it and if there is a problem a 3rd person will check it out. I don't think they are in the buisness to grade altered cards, of course they may make a mistake but i would say 99.5 percent are not trimmed or altered. In my opinion.
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>DR</b><p>T206Collector. You are full of hot air too! In this case the seller in the listing contract decided to state a LIE. This is NOT the same situation. By the way, I have overgraded SGC graded cards too. I know this may come as a shocker. My GAI graded cards are almost all overgraded ready for crossing. This is NOT a PSA bashing thread. It is about WILLIAM BUSTOS and to make people aware of his tactics and possibly criminal (and questionable) business practices. From your reply, hopefully one day you get screwed big time too.<br /><br />Thanks,<br />David<br /><br />BUY / SELL / TRADE -> 1878 TO 1911 <i>NON</i> & <i>MULTI SPORTS</i> : N28, N29, N43, N162, N165, N184
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>cmoking</b><p>I like PSA and SGC equally. At times, I find myself defending PSA on this board because of B.S. statements by guys like T206Collector. Here is one such statement: <br /><br />"Has it occurred to anyone that the only cards being sold in PSA holders are those that would not crossover into SGC slabs?"<br /><br />This is just a freaking laughable and stupid comment.
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>Jeff</b><p>I'd gotten ungraded cards from him. The description claimed the backs were clean. I bought a STACK of '33 Goudeys from him based on this, only to find that they ALL had writing on the back. He refused to refund. I returned them anyways with a note saying that he could avoid these problems simply by noting the writing on the back. He ended up refunding my money after getting tired of arguing about it, and then threw in a few cuss words asking that I never bid on his auctions again....NO Problem there.<br /><br />Simply put, he is a slimeball as far as I'm concerned. Writing on the back was obvious, and not only did he not mention it, he said the backs were clean. Then, it was my fault.
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>T206Collector</b><p>"From your reply, hopefully one day you get screwed big time too."<br /><br />Again, since I do not purchase PSA graded cards and will take SGC at their word, regardless of what a seller says, I will not "get screwed big time" in the manner that you allowed yourself to get screwed.<br /><br /><<"Has it occurred to anyone that the only cards being sold in PSA holders are those that would not crossover into SGC slabs?"<br /><br />This is just a freaking laughable and stupid comment.>><br /><br />While I was exaggerating, my point was that I, for example, have sold at least ten PSA 5-6 T206 cards with visible creases or evidence of trimming on ebay because those cards would (obviously) not cross into an SGC holder. And I am not a dealer by any stretch. Can you deny that there are a lot of failed grading dumps out there? Because of that, it is best to go with a company that will right the obvious mistake and pay you the difference in the full value of the card.<br /><br /> <br /> <br />
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>All the grading companies make equal mistakes period. I've had two T206's that I sent to PSA, one came back trimmed and the other came back altered. I sold both on ebay, stating that neither graded for me. The guy that bought them sent both to SGC, one came back a SGC 60 and the other a 84. Yes....they ALL make mistakes.
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>quan</b><p>that just means the psa monkeys didn't know what they were doing and the cards were fine because SGC is always right...umm i think 115% of the time <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />...and to be fair if SGC said the cards were trimmed and PSA put them in numbered holders....then well PSA have stupid monkeys who don't know what they were doing and the cards were in fact altered! <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14>
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>T206Collector</b><p>I piggyback what you said, without the sarcastic/friendly smiley faces. For every trimmed card PSA misses I am certain there are an equal number of untrimmed cards that PSA mislabels. If you're making errors in one direction, it's because you don't understand what to look for -- this means you will make the same errors in the other direction. Most of the time, I believe SGC will catch those mistakes in both directions.<br /><br />Ultimately we all know the grading companies all make mistakes, and you can say what you will about PSA volume versus SGC volume, but I have never -- really, never -- had an issue with an inconsistent grade by SGC -- I currently own 300 T206 cards graded by SGC from "A" to "80" and I can honestly explain why each card graded the way it did. When I had my 40 PSA graded T206 cards, that was an impossible endeavor -- 5's and 6's with creases, and 3's and 4's without creases, were the hardest to explain away. And when I sent them all into SGC for crossover, SGC couldn't explain it either, agreeing with me that PSA had incorrectly graded at least 25% of my submission.<br /><br />
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>DR</b><p>This is NOT a PSA, SGC or GAI bashing thread rather a thread about WILLIAM BUSTOS placing in the description NO PAPER LOSS when the card has PAPER LOSS, a pencil and eraser marks. I do not care if a card is raw or graded. If you list a graded card AS IS...fine! However, if you do NOT, claim to have a return policy, blatently misrepresent a card in writing (contract), it is FRAUD. <br /><br />This thread was started to alert everyone to WILLIAM BUSTOS'S very questionable character and possibly criminal business tactics. When eBay renders a verdict, I will be sure to let everyone know. Maybe I am in the wrong but do not think so (at this point) and feel a crime took place. <br /><br />AVOID AVOID AVOID --> WILLIAM BUSTOS.
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>quan</b><p>seems like when i spoke to WB he did not know much about vintage cards and the stuff he was selling, someone just gave him some cards to list. when i bought from him 6 or 7 months back his feedbacks consisted mostly of modern shiny stuff. I do agree that if u misrepresent what you're selling then you should give a refund back to the buyer.
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>Lee Behrens</b><p>I am with DR on this one because it was stated in his auction no paper loss and there is no policy of return on graded cards listed.<br /><br />Now on to T206 Collectors point, way is it when we have a problem with a graded card transaction it involves a PSA card. The company has big problems and the biggest reason it is supproted is the price they command on resell. Too me buying from any graded company other then SGC is buyer beware. Yes, I buy them on occasion if I feel they are cheap enough, nothing high grade though.<br /><br />Lee<br />
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>Judge Dred (Fred)</b><p>Double post - I posted this in the Chet Wood thread also:<br /><br />Do you know what I find is funny here? <br /><br />We all admit to not being experts and we rely on the grading service "experts" for a subjective opinion. We place great faith and value into these "expert" opinions. <br /><br />These are the same graders (for PSA, at least) which we all accept as being people that have no clue to what these cards are.<br /><br />Did I miss something here? <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br />
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>T206Collector</b><p>...my only point is that when you buy a PSA 7 card, that is your guarantee that there is no paper loss. It does not matter what the seller says at this point, because when you get your PSA 7 in hand you have a claim against PSA that is ripe. Of course here the seller made a mistatement, and it may be that a fraud was committed, but the larger issue here is PSA graded a card with paper loss a 7.<br /><br />In short, today there have been two posts blasting the sellers of PSA cards as bad people -- the real problem in the industry is PSA, which provides the means for a bad transaction, not the sellers.
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>I'm starting to think that Quan and King are the two smartest people out here...
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>edacra</b><p>The idea that this issue might be better taken up with PSA sounds like a constructive one.... but I think the compulsive debate over grading company conduct has been covered elsewhere in more appropriate threads. <br /><br />The fact is, PSA is the most dominant slab on the market, and buying one is about as inevitable as buying a raw card at some point. Your personal preferences shouldn't enter into your judgement on this or other transactions. <br /><br />Normally, I do think we're all more forgiving to sellers when there's an error on a graded card. However, three board members purchased cards with markings on the back from this seller, both graded and ungraded. That changes the situation somewhat. The error was not that someone bought or sold a PSA graded card.<br /><br />
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>DR</b><p>I left negative feedback today for WILLIAM BUSTOS. Other people are returning cards too and upset. Today, neutral feedbacks were left for misgrading also. WILLIAM BUSTOS charged shipping both ways. Go figure! <u>The low resolution images are the way he is able to perpetrate fraud.</u> It is obvious callofduty2005 (eBay ID) does NOT know how to grade cards or treat people. Once again, AVOID AVOID AVOID!
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>JudgeDred2</b><p>He may not be the smartest guy out there because he indicated NO PAPER LOSS in the auction for the PSA7 card that had paper loss. <br /><br />He can pretty much hide behind the thrid party grading if he sells the cards in PSA slabs. His only problem is that he shouldnit indicate that a card doesn't have a flaw that is obviously on the card. If he was smart he'd just let the slab sell the card. There are plenty of people out there that buy the slab and not the card.
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>Frank Evanov</b><p><I>"While I was exaggerating, my point was that I, for example, have sold at least ten PSA 5-6 T206 cards with visible creases or evidence of trimming on ebay because those cards would (obviously) not cross into an SGC holder."</I><br /><br />Can you tell me your EBAY ID so I don't bid on any of your cards. Thanks.<br /><br /><br><br>Frank
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>Joann</b><p>Dave,<br /><br />I understand that you feel wronged, and even think that you have a point. There are two sides to this - the "seller disclosure side" and the "professional graders are responsible side". I think the balance may be more in your favor even though I can see how the seller may have missed the paper loss in a quick glance.<br /><br />If I were you, I would be mad as hell no matter who was at fault - the seller or the grader. Bottom line is that you are the one that is out the money for now.<br /><br />But ... I don't know if I would use this forum as a vehicle for an anti-seller campaign that will continue to escalate, as your last post suggested. We routinely warn others here of problematic sellers, but that's the extent of those posts - warning other collectors. I don't remember seeing one that was used as a "campaign" against a seller. <br /><br />I also see that you have left the seller two negative feedbacks for apparently the same bad transaction. It looks like one of the negatives was left for a different purchase, but the complaint appears to apply to this transaction (unless there was a similar problem with that purchase also). So you were able to get your message out by another vehicle too.<br /><br />I understand your frustration, but at some point I hope you cool off and reconsider use of this forum or thread against this seller. I think everyone here has been warned, and I myself will be sure to ask very clear questions of this seller in the future if I ever consider any of his auctions. <br /><br />But I don't know if there's anyone here that hasn't opened a graded card and had that heart-sinking feeling of realizing that the card does not deserve the grade - and sometimes in a big way. Maybe not for as much money as you are out here, but similar experiences nonetheless. I now will usually be much more careful about graded cards for high dollars, regardless of seller, because of the exact same lesson learned the hard way - I made incorrect assumptions about the card based on the holder.<br /><br />Just my two cents' worth, if it's even worth that.<br /><br />Joann
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>DR</b><p><a href="http://www.collectabit.com/paperloss" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://www.collectabit.com/paperloss</a" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.collectabit.com/paperloss</a</a>><br /><br />Joann,<br /><br />Thanks for the reply. I am actually talking about (2) different card purchases and not the same transaction from WILLAIM BUSTOS. The other T206 is pictured above. It was listed without any comments and has (2) large paper loss spots on the back. callofduty2005 is selling cards with paper loss, writing and creases. The only problem is the low resolution scans HIDE the damage and the seller does not list or mention ANY flaws (OR claims no flaws when flaws exists and refuses to accept refunds). When the seller does grant a refund, in rare cases, the process is VERY difficult, the buyer pays for shipping both ways, and the seller makes a huge stink. This is crazy when it is obvious callofduty2005 is cheating people. I am posting to prevent board members from ending up getting taken by this fraudulent seller. You mentioned making an assumption. I made an assumption based on the listing description and CONTRACT. To me, this is not an assumption but statement of fact by the seller. If this statement of fact was not made, I would have requested high resolution scans before purchasing the card for obvious reasons. Once again, this is NOT a PSA, SGC, GAI debate. It is to point out fraudulent business practices. I feel this is an important message because the cards for sale are what board members are buying daily.<br /><br />Thank you.<br /><br />David
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Dave:<br /><br />To answer your question: Yes, it would be crazy to file a police report over this.
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>DR</b><p><a href="http://forums.ebay.com/db2/thread.jspa?threadID=2000192543&tstart=40&mod=1154 737320126" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://forums.ebay.com/db2/thread.jspa?threadID=2000192543&tstart=40&mod=1154 737320126</a><br /><br /><img src="http://members.aol.com/canofprimo/sgc2johnson.jpg"><br /><img src="http://members.aol.com/canofprimo/psa5johnson.jpg"><br /><br />The tear looks repaired to me too!<br /><br />Original thread:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/thread/1154548012/last-1154664681/Seriously%2C+how+is+this+a++5" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/thread/1154548012/last-1154664681/Seriously%2C+how+is+this+a++5</a><br /><br />
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>Judge Dred (Fred)</b><p>Isn't PSA supposed to be able to detect "card doctoring"? Look how off centered that card is. I don't understand the "5" grade w/o and OC qualifier at a minimum. <br /><br />
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>But it proves a point. If you are a dealer or plan to sell your cards make sure that you have them graded by PSA.
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>Scot Reader</b><p><br />Fred,<br /><br />I have never seen an OC qualifier on a card that grades less than PSA 6. OC qualifiers are typically reserved for cards that grade PSA 7 or higher--although I have owned one PSA 6 OC [T206 Hart (Little Rock)].<br /><br />I personally don't see the evidence of card doctoring, though.<br /><br />Scot<br /><br />
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>fkw</b><p>DR... why do you keep bidding on "callofduuty2005" cards and leaving negative feedback? I see you have done it 3 times in the last day.<br /><br />You have completely crossed the line IMO!<br /><br />Please dont ever bid on anything I list.<br /><br /><br />Your beef should be with PSA<br /><br />Bottom line.....If you dont like the PSA grade...Dont buy a card graded by PSA! <br />They are the ones you should have a beef with!
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>DR</b><p>I have not bid on ANY cards, since the first card arrived. All of my bids were placed BEFORE the PSA 7 listed with NO PAPER LOSS arrived with PAPER LOSS. Once again, one of my issues with William Bustos is because in the listing, he stated 'NO PAPER LOSS'. I made the incorrect assumption, a detailed high resolution scan (from and back) was not necessary because the seller took the liberty of describing the reverse. This is what I call crossing the line. Another card arrived with back damage (creases and paper loss). He made no mention of this also and the scans were low resolution (most likely intentionally hiding faults). If I continued to bid and post feedback, yes, I would agree about crossing the line. All of my posts have been factual data.
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>Joann</b><p>David,<br /><br />Was there also a problem with the Caruthers you left feedback on today? Or was the neg feedback a result of the other problems you've had with this seller?<br /><br />J
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>DR</b><p>(2) out of the (3) cards have major issues, not disclosed and/or stated false descriptions in the listing. Fortunately, the Caruthers is the only card that looks OK (but better take a much closer look under a loop). The way the seller handles returns or objections is reprehensible. The scans (to all his auctions) are all low resolution and fuzzy. The seller makes no mention of condition in most of his auctions (for obvious reasons). With a no return policy, buyer beware. I paid in full for the (3) cards and received (3) negatives. I have no problem leaving scathing feedback.
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>scott</b><p>It was slabbed. Fight city hall and BTW, you over paid for the card.
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>BcD</b><p>did you figure out how to use a scanner so you can sell me some cards yet?<br /><br />Koteles,why dont you show these home noys some of your choice e-mails you received from Call of Puke via your E-102 Evers fiasco?? Don't you recognize that this is the same clown you purchased that card from who gave you so much grief?<br /><br />And guys,it's pretty obvious he sells cards:<br /><br />a) doctored by someone else ( and I can guess)<br />b) for this other person because call of puke is under capitalized to own these cards in the first place.<br /><br />On another note,isn't selling cards through your web site devoid of a resale license an issue for some? You know what I mean! <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br /><br><br>BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>Dan Koteles</b><p>I simply will never deal with somebody that is that angry at the world.
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>scott</b><p>No Brian I haven't . I did however learn how to use a <br />digital camera. Aren't scanners out of date?<br />Peace
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>Brian C. Daniels</b><p>to see details but if you can than power to you. post a sample that would be cool Scott. Come on Dan post callofbuttcheeses e-mails if you have them. He delayed delivery to you because he had to go get the card from the consignor is my guess.<br><br>BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>DR</b><p>AVOID AVOID AVOID
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>DR, how is this guy a card doctor? Didn't he sell a PSA-encased card with some pencil writing on it? If he was a doctor, wouldn't he have cracked the card out and erased the markings? Or did you just want to bump this thread to the top because WILLIAM BUSTOS, the WILLIAM BUSTOS was on the other end of a deal that you didn't enjoy?
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>NetJr</b><p>I'm probably blind as a bat but in looking at the close scan on here I can't see the errors you speak of. Obviously William Bustos or DR have issues with PSA, but instead they now have negative feedbacks due to their transaction. Which is sad because they both had pretty darn good feedbacks before....pissing contests never leave anyone dry
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>DR</b><p>I purchased (3) cards and (2) were altered. The T-206 has paper loss on the reverse too with no mention of this fact in the descriptions. If you want to fault me, fine. However, I think you should know about the low resolutions scans (hiding faults), no mention of faults or blatent lies and several other poeple having the same problems with the same seller. This is a public service! Ignore this or internalize it but this could save you from the wrath of a huckster. On the N162, look at the top right. I do not mind taking negatives to expose a fraudulent seller.<br /><br /><img src="http://collectabit.com/paperloss.jpg"><br /><br />
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>Bottom of the Ninth</b><p>David,<br /><br />I have been dealing with PSA as well as the other grading companies longer than most here and have never been told by PSA that their guarantee is limited only to the original submitter of the card. I am not sure who you spoke with at PSA but you need to call back and speak to Joe Orlando. Or send the card in with a note on a submission form to his attention. The most recent Form 10-Q filing clearly articulates their guarantee (see below).<br /><br />I think your issue really is with the grading company if the N162 has the flaws you have identified. In addition, the raw card you bought was identified as trimmed, interestingly enough. I suppose he should have mentioned if it had paper loss on the reverse but you were already buying a severely flawed card. <br /><br />Greg<br /><br /> Grading Warranty Costs . We offer a limited warranty covering the coins, sportscards, stamps and currency that we authenticate and grade. Under the warranty, if any collectible that was previously authenticated and graded by us is later submitted to us for re-grading and either (i) receives a lower grade upon that resubmittal or (ii) is determined not to have been authentic, we will offer to purchase the collectible or pay the difference in value of the item at its original grade as compared with its lower grade. However, this warranty is voided if the collectible, upon resubmittal to us, is not in the same tamper resistant holder in which it was placed at the time we last graded it. We offer a similar limited warranty, of one year’s duration, on the diamonds we grade. We accrue for estimated warranty costs based on historical trends and related experience. To date our reserves have proved to be adequate. However, if warranty claims were to increase in relation to historical trends and experience, we would be required to increase our warranty reserves and incur additional charges that would adversely affect our results of operations in those periods during which the warranty reserve is increased.
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>DR</b><p>Thank you for your cooperation during the investigation of the Standard Purchase Protection Claim #X.<br /><br />I am pleased to inform you that this claim has been found on your behalf. A claim payment will be issued via PayPal within the next 45 days in the amount of $175.00 through eBay, Inc. Payment will be sent to you at the following email address:<br /><br />William Bustos is back at it again:<br /><br />Item number: 280064786026 (listed as NM - MT but has paper loss on the reverse Ci missing)<br /><a href="http://webpages.charter.net/fabb2929/12t202001" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://webpages.charter.net/fabb2929/12t202001</a><br /><br />Item number: 280064786015 (writing - large 99 and/or 49 on the reverse with no mention)<br /><br />I could go on and on but take this as a warning, the eBay 'optimized' low resolution images / descriptions are hiding faults and simply incorrect. If you bid, buyer beware!
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William Bustos, Whittier, CA - eBay: callofduty2005 AVOID AVOID AVOID
Posted By: <b>Joann</b><p>Wow. Oddly enough, I found myself thinking about this thread sometime in the past few days and wondering why it hadn't been bumped for awhile. Thought maybe even it was gone for good. <br /><br />And now today, here it is again. Let it go DR. Stop bringing your individual vendetta to the top all the time. You had your space to vent and rant, fine. Now please stop inventing reasons to renew its visibility every few weeks. <br /><br />If you do want to keep bringing it up forever, then please at least edit the title so that the person's name and ebay id aren't in it. Everyone says that you can skip any thread you don't want to read and that's true. But if the message is in the title, the message is unavoidable just by being here.<br /><br />Joann Kline
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