Black Mamba is done
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Farewell Mamba!
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Thank God!
Maybe now, I can get back to being a Laker fan. I grew up as a Laker fan back in the 1970s and 1980s. Stopped being a fan when they chose Bryant over Shaq. I vowed I would never be a fan of the Lakers as long as Bryant was on the team. What can I say, I have a thing against rapists. You can add to that, the fact that he then lied about it and bought his way out of it. Steve |
Don't let the door hit you in the ass.
Actually, let it hit you in the ass and knock you down the stairs as well. Go hang out with Ray Lewis. |
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I suppose you think it's OK to rape someone, as long as you're able to get away with it. I sure hope you never have kids! Steve |
Well, that went sour in a hurry.
Charges were never filed against Kobe in the sexual assault case. To call him a rapist is inserting a verdict where there never was one (regardless of my personal thoughts of guilt on the matter). That said, I'm no Kobe fan. The Lakers will be better off when 1) he's gone and 2) their ownership and front office can pull its head out of its rear. |
Dewey Haters abound. Way of justifying they're hate . Hate or like..dude is iconic and can ball and has his place in NBA history. Is he the greatest Laker player ever? Hell no...but in top 10. Love him or hate him he was a gamer with a killer work ethic that is virtually non existent in today's watered down version of the NBA.
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I won't hate his game but I will hate the player. |
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Not going on a rampage, but I will be watching basketball for the first time in well over a decade next season. I promised years ago I was done till that clown retired.
81 points and 2 assists is not worth celebrating. It's the proof of the death of the "team" in basketball. Maybe the good days of the excitement of those late 80s teams may return some day, but I doubt it. My son loves the game, but we have agreed to disagree. |
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There is no denying his extraordinary talent, and there were times when he shot because there was nobody worth passing to from what I could tell, but he had no class in my opinion. In that respect he did not hold a candle to Magic Johnson.
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I'll say this, I'd almost rather watch Kobe's last game than watch Alex Wood try and throw a strike. Holy crap. First sign of Chris Hatcher and I'll switch to the Lakers.
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Mike - tho it's hard for me to reconcile, I know you're a good guy and a Laker fan (((( shudder ))))). I will admit I'm biased....starting with the d**gers but definitely continuing to the lakers, I have always despised all LA teams. But, bias aside, I have always appreciated an unrepentant a**hole like Barry Bonds over these phony a**holes like kobe, arod, ray lewis, etc. Part of it is wishing Barry could have just been a little phony nice. Had he been, he may make the HOF.
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Watch the Warriors. Wondeful team basketball! And a bunch of solid citizens to boot.
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Legendary Final game ! 60pts! Mamba feeds on your hate ! WoW gotta be GREATEST Final game for a player ever!
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Amazing. 60. That is all.
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Mamba Out!
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WOW! What a way to go out for kobe. When I heard I assumed both teams "fed" kobe the ball the whole game...NOT THE CASE!
Kobe had flashes of curry last night!! Here you go haters! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQYz0I5dE_A |
First off, Kobe Bryant is an excellent (perhaps all-time great) player. He just had probably the greatest final game in the history of pro sports, when only considering the individual performance. It was a great way to go out, although personally, I prefer the way Peyton Manning and John Elway went out in their last games.
That being said, it does make one wonder, where was Kobe the rest of the season. The Lakers finished the season 17-65. Last season, they were 21-61. They year before that, 27-55 (each season worse that the previous) Where was Kobe? One could wonder if he was simply saving himself for the final bow; that he was mailing it in the entire season...that he didn't care. He should have been elevating his teammates' performances, so that they could all feed off each-other. That leads me to the biggest problem I have with Bryant on the court; that he is not a Leader. He does not, and never has, made any of his teammates better. He was/is all about himself. Michael Jordan, as great as he was individually, made his teammates better. Scottie Pippen, Toni Kukoc, Dennis Rodman, et al...became better playing with MJ. The San Antonio Spurs.....they get players who sacrifice for the TEAM; they make each-other better; and as a result, they win Championships! Kobe Bryant is also the #1 reason Shaquille O'Neal left the Lakers! Kobe drove him away. Kobe couldn't handle having any teammate who competed with him for individual supremacy. Kobe didn't care about the TEAM! If Kobe would have worked with Shaq, each of them feeding off each-other, there is no telling how many championships the Lakers would have won! Instead, Shaq left, and the Lakers declined into an absolute laughing-stock. Anyway, Kobe Bryant is now done, and the Lakers can get on with building a team that truly deserves to wear the purple and gold! Steve |
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I don't care much for his persona, as posted, but I don't buy the criticism of him as a basketball player. He won five championships. He was an intense competitor. on both ends of the floor. From what I saw, he looked to score first mainly because there were times when that made sense for the team because he was surrounded by mediocrity. Jordan was just as much in people's faces. He won six, Kobe won five, so what's the basis for saying Jordan was a great team player but Kobe wasn't?
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How many more Championships would the Lakers have won/been in contention for, had Kobe been a team player? Just two more, and he'd have more than Jordan does. I remember seeing/reading reports on ESPN where other players (free agents) basically refused to go to the Lakers because they didn't want to play alongside Kobe. They knew he was a ball-hog and only cared about himself. Kobe kept the team from being able to sign the top talent. He's a huge factor in his teammates being mediocre. Steve |
Why all the hoopla for Kobe's scoring 60 points in his last game? Granted, 60 points is impressive, until one scratches the surface a little. Kobe took 50 shots! 50! He made 22 of the 50 shots. 50 shots folks, making 22, which is .440%. He was 6 of 21 from 3 point land for .286% and 10-12 from the free throw line.
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50 shots????? The guy ONLY played for himself. Self proclaimed "Mamba out" buh bye... |
I'll preface this by stating I've never been a Kobe or Laker fan.
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PS to draw any conclusions from a final tribute-type game is silly. |
having lived in socal all my life and experienced it first hand steve d is right on in everything he said. on top of that he's also a walking hypocrite, trying to do a 180 on his narrative this last year.
my best memory of kobe is when the colorado rape stuff started happening he sold out his own teammate and told the police how he should've paid off the women like shaq did...d'angelo learned from the best! |
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Too many haters on here. Just let the guy retire and get the respect he deserves as a player. And for the record, it's not fair to accuse him as being a rapist with no solid evidence of what really happened. The whole story seemed fishy to me. |
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Jazz had nothing to play for...kobe is not a rapist in the same vein as oj is not a murderer.
Everybody showed up for his last game all of hollywood jack snoop kanye jay z his old running teammates horry fisher even shaq...so who wasnt there? His parents...thats all i need to know about the guy. |
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HE'S BEEN IN THE LEAGUE 20 YEARS AND IS 37 YRS OLD!!! lol...Youre telling me he wasnt amazing almost all his career??? Come on man that was a ignorant statement |
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Michael Jordan cheated on his wife several times, is known to be a real asshole and was as much self centered on the court if not more than kobe but no one hates on him. I didnt like kobe for a long time but its because I was hating that he was so good, plus Im not a laker fan. But what he did on the court was AMAZING and there hasnt been a player like him since Jordan. If you cant acknowledge what a great player he was you need help
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Lakers sold $1.3M worth of Kobe merch during that game. Broke the previous record of the Led Zeppelin reunion.
I think the Jazz would have been trapping and double teaming if they really cared. |
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Great player ? Probably, although just how great will be debated just like every other great player.
Great guy? Ummm......no. A bit more fuel for the discussion http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/...V0D?li=BBnb7Kz Steve B |
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That said, I guess I did bring mj into the comparison earlier. Either way, glad Kobe is done so kids an start cheering for better role models(hopefully). Curry, so far, is a pretty good man on and off the court. |
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Sat behind Laker bench during a game in 2011. It was my son Kobe's first ever NBA game. We were later able to procure this actual jersey. Photomatch via our own pics.
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Hate or love him, Kobe has his place in NBA history. Last 3 years really blah but overall a fine NBA career. IN 15-20 years he will be mentioned as a great much how Ali is now. Ali was lambasted up and down during his boxing years and now looked kindly on. Dude was never convicted and it was DA's doing to drop the case. The girl refused to testify upon reflecting upon that night. Don't make her to be a angel she aint no nun fosho. If all the knocks on him is this dropped case then its all bout da hate,,, nothing more. Argument about him being a hypocrite? I don't see it in all honesty he was a true arrogant aHOLe from year 3 on and never let up. So he stayed true to that. He doesn't deserve any citizenship honors but lets face it dude had game. I'm looking upon him as a iconic player and what he brought to the court and to the game. Majority of these posts has nothing to do with what he brought to the game of BBall just something that happened and dropped 12 years ago. Haters hang onto that cuz that is all you got.
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probably the first and hopefully be the last time someone compares kobe to ali.
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you totally interpreted this wrong. It is a fact that Ali was hated during his fighting days and became more of an iconic figure later in life. Leave your hate aside.
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Ali was disliked for things he stood for. Kobe stands for nothing but himself. Kobe is disliked for justified reasons. This "hater" stuff is crap. I would suggest you let go of being a fan boy of such men. |
Fan boy. I love it! ;)
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Im not a fan of kobe off the court but what he did in regards to basketball was phenomenal. He was the lakers and there hasnt been anyone like him since Jordan. Either way as far as his basketball career he's definitely a Top 10 player of all time. He had millions of fans most who were kids and regardless of his selfish attitude they looked up to him because his playing ability which is what most players wish for
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The point is, he is put in a position for kids to look up to and failed miserably. They should not look up to someone like him. He certainly shouldn't be heralded and defended by "adults". |
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Oh god quit crying! |
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My hands are now clean. Thanks for looking at my FB page! |
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Man, I'm just trying to admire the OP's incredible Kobe collection...fantastic stuff!
I was lucky enough to make it to Kobe's Chicago farewell. Had a blast. No doubt he's not the same player he was in his prime, but who is?? Look how bad Peyton Manning sucked this past season, including the Super Bowl...Father Time still undefeated. And regarding the rape allegations, Manning is also a good comparison. His incident with the trainer at Tennessee definitely taints (no pun intended) his legacy. Of course, Manning superfans will note he was never convicted, that it wasn't actual sex, that it was just a prank, that the accuser had issues, etc. Going back to the Mamba, he and Duncan are the two greatest of their era. Kobe's last game was epic...I wasn't seeing any lack of D from the Jazz. What I did see was the Lakers wanting Kobe to take a ton of shots, which obviously helped him rack up his points. Still, show me even 10 other players in the league today who could get to 60 in those same circumstances and one EVER who could do it at 37 years old. There is a reason nearly every young NBA star idolized Kobe growing up. There is only one Mamba, absolutely one of the greatest players ever. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk |
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