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Pat R 05-17-2014 07:53 PM

Who said there are no deals on ebay......
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1901-11-T206...p2047675.l2557

wolf441 05-17-2014 08:17 PM

Wow....just wow.

jp1216 05-17-2014 08:34 PM

Buyer clearly overpaid by at least a few $$. :eek:

I Only Smoke 4 the Cards 05-17-2014 10:20 PM

How does that happen to a sports card seller?


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Sean 05-17-2014 10:23 PM

The only thing that could make this sale funnier would be if the Lenox was in Brown ink. :D

jb217676 05-17-2014 10:47 PM

There are deals to be found on ebay if you dig deep enough. I picked up this postcard for next to nothing.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RPPC-WINNER-...vip=true&rt=nc

rhettyeakley 05-17-2014 11:05 PM

I almost threw up when I saw this one after the fact (someone was HAPPY!)...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1916-Zeenut-...item461d1ebac5

terjung 05-17-2014 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley (Post 1277360)
I almost threw up when I saw this one after the fact (someone was HAPPY!)...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1916-Zeenut-...item461d1ebac5

Holy cow! Was that a BIN or something?

h2oya311 05-18-2014 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by terjung (Post 1277362)
Holy cow! Was that a BIN or something?

Are you kidding!!!! Now that's a deal. I think I paid north of 120x that amount for my example!!!

GrayGhost 05-18-2014 05:11 AM

great deals. wow

ullmandds 05-18-2014 05:33 AM

what a deal...i wonder if there were any other steals from this same seller?

His/her prices in general are pretty reasonable on most cards.

bobbyw8469 05-18-2014 06:21 AM

An employee must have listed that card and just went with the regular backs on the T206. No way does the seller honor that sale price.

GoCubsGo32 05-18-2014 06:26 AM

How much is this card worth?!? T206 isn't my area.

vintagetoppsguy 05-18-2014 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1277395)
An employee must have listed that card and just went with the regular backs on the T206. No way does the seller honor that sale price.

^This

I know the seller. His name is Howard Lau and he has owned Houston Sports Connection for probably 25+ years. One of his employees probably listed it at that price by mistake.

wolf441 05-18-2014 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1277385)
what a deal...i wonder if there were any other steals from this same seller?

His/her prices in general are pretty reasonable on most cards.

Agreed. I had to stop looking as I was to tempted to hit BIN on a bunch of stuff that I don't normally collect (post WWII - Topps Bob Gibson, Nolan Ryan, etc..). You should never troll ebay after having a beer (or 10)...:D

Republicaninmass 05-18-2014 10:25 AM

Someone probably alerted him and offered more before he shipped.

Sean 05-18-2014 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoCubsGo32 (Post 1277396)
How much is this card worth?!? T206 isn't my area.

A Lenox back with a common front, even in this condition, should sell for somewhere between $1,000 and $1,500.

slidekellyslide 05-18-2014 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jb217676 (Post 1277358)
There are deals to be found on ebay if you dig deep enough. I picked up this postcard for next to nothing.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RPPC-WINNER-...vip=true&rt=nc

Wow..nice pickup, Jeff. Congrats!

gnaz01 05-18-2014 05:02 PM

eBay Find
 
1 Attachment(s)
I grabbed this a while back for $1.29 (shipping was $15) :D

Tcards-Please 05-18-2014 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass (Post 1277449)
Someone probably alerted him and offered more before he shipped.

From personal experience. There are deals to be had on ebay but it isn't advisable if you are the recipient of the deal to show this board the new acquisition until the card is in hand.

auggiedoggy 05-18-2014 08:30 PM

I've been involved in many great deals on eBay! Unfortunately they were all great deals for the seller. :(

bobbyw8469 05-18-2014 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by auggiedoggy (Post 1277652)
I've been involved in many great deals on eBay! Unfortunately they were all great deals for the seller. :(

You must have not ever bought from me then! I give stuff away left and right!:o

Peter_Spaeth 05-18-2014 09:12 PM

Doesn't even begin to compare to this one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/American-Her...item3f3481d4d7

slidekellyslide 05-18-2014 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1277662)
Doesn't even begin to compare to this one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/American-Her...item3f3481d4d7

Wow! Was that a BIN? Was the card real? :eek:

Peter_Spaeth 05-18-2014 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide (Post 1277664)
Wow! Was that a BIN? Was the card real? :eek:

It sure looks real to me.

slidekellyslide 05-18-2014 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1277665)
It sure looks real to me.

I think I'd throw up if I were the seller and later learned this is one of the rarest non-sport cards extant.

Peter_Spaeth 05-18-2014 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide (Post 1277668)
I think I'd throw up if I were the seller and later learned this is one of the rarest non-sport cards extant.

I would assume someone told the seller.

slidekellyslide 05-18-2014 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1277669)
I would assume someone told the seller.

I didn't see any feedback left for the transaction so you may be right.

Peter_Spaeth 05-18-2014 09:31 PM

It's uncancelled too. Only one other one known, I believe.

Peter_Spaeth 05-18-2014 09:33 PM

I would have paid quickly too.

Positive feedback rating Lightning fast payment Awesome Buyer: j***r ( 910Purple star icon for feedback score in between 500 to 999) Apr-23-14 11:10
American Heroes Caramel William McKinley (#271463863511) -- View Item

slidekellyslide 05-18-2014 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1277671)
It's uncancelled too. Only one other one known, I believe.

Wonder what the story is...I now see from the seller's feedback that he sold other cards from the set. You have me intrigued...I'm tempted to contact the seller to see what the deal is.

bobbyw8469 05-19-2014 04:16 AM

Looking at the auction, it appears that the card was pulled. $9.99 was the opening bid. I am sure that they got a flurry of emails asking for a BIN price quickly, and decided to pull it down and let someone other than Ebay auction it off. Sorta like the same that happened to that woman doing the late night talk show circuit with that Cincinnati Red Stockings card.....

mrvster 05-19-2014 04:21 AM

seller.....
 
shipped already:eek:

bobbyw8469 05-19-2014 04:32 AM

I know the seller. He goes to all the Raleigh shows. I will ask him next time I see him.

bobbyw8469 05-19-2014 04:38 AM

Just out of curiosity, how much would an uncancelled McKinley go for? Is that an easy 6 figure card?

soccersaver97 05-19-2014 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1277717)
Just out of curiosity, how much would an uncancelled McKinley go for? Is that an easy 6 figure card?

Not 6 but definitely 5 figures

D. Bergin 05-19-2014 09:19 AM

Interesting. Ebay doesn't let you see anymore when a fixed price listing was first put up. I was curious to see how long some of these cards were floating around before somebody snatched them up.

I guess this is a lesson for those of us who weed out all the fixed price listings to only view the auctions.

tschock 05-19-2014 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1277716)
I know the seller. He goes to all the Raleigh shows. I will ask him next time I see him.

My guess is either Greg didn't realize what he had or it wasn't real. But it will be interesting to find out.

insccollectibles 05-19-2014 09:22 AM

Wow, I can't believe these things still happen with all the available information out there.

bobbyw8469 05-19-2014 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tschock (Post 1277770)
My guess is either Greg didn't realize what he had or it wasn't real. But it will be interesting to find out.

It sure looked real.

collectbaseball 05-19-2014 05:36 PM

There are plenty of great deals to be had.... if you have time to dig! Off the top of my head, I got a T216 Mino for ~$12, a T206 Piedmont Factory 42 entirely by accident (crummy scans), and a Queen Victoria signed document for $60 or so.

mrvster 05-19-2014 07:57 PM

seller made a mistake...
 
I already talked with him....poor bastard:eek:....real deal card.........

Bocabirdman 05-19-2014 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrvster (Post 1278008)
I already talked with him....poor bastard:eek:....real deal card.........

If he bought for a chunk and sold it for a sliver, that is one level of hell. If he bought it for a sliver (say in a pile of commons) and missed out on a chunk, that is another.:eek:

sebie43 05-19-2014 08:29 PM

I cant believe it, If he would have just Googled his own auction description.

bobbyw8469 05-19-2014 08:44 PM

I am totally blown away that someone who buys and sells card for a living puts cards on Ebay without doing one iota of research to see if a card is rare or valuable. I can understand not knowing everything about every single set that is out there, cause there are an absolute TON of sets out there. His auction title didn't even have the year (1932) or the maker of the card (US Caramel) anywhere in the title, nor the card number. It really had no keywords whatsoever in it for anyone to bid it up. Mind boggling.....

Peter_Spaeth 05-19-2014 08:49 PM

Caveat vendor.

BleedinBlue 05-19-2014 08:51 PM

Which seller?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrvster (Post 1278008)
I already talked with him....poor bastard:eek:....real deal card.........

Which seller did you talk to? The seller of the Lenox or the seller of the McKinley?

polakoff 05-20-2014 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1277716)
I know the seller. He goes to all the Raleigh shows. I will ask him next time I see him.

I go to all the Raleigh shows. I've set up at every one since July. Do we know each other?

bobbyw8469 05-20-2014 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polakoff (Post 1278108)
I go to all the Raleigh shows. I've set up at every one since July. Do we know each other?

If you have vintage, pehaps. If you have modern, no.

polakoff 05-20-2014 07:14 AM

I have both, but more modern. I usually have one case of vintage stars and a 3200 count box of low grade set fillers. No tobacco (yet).

MacDice 05-20-2014 07:36 AM

A few years ago I picked up a signed 1957 Brooks Robinson on EBay for $10 complete with the auto ticket from the show it was signed at. Seller listed it as Brooks Robinsom no one else saw the spelling error on the listing and I was the only bidder.

bobbyw8469 05-20-2014 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polakoff (Post 1278111)
I have both, but more modern. I usually have one case of vintage stars and a 3200 count box of low grade set fillers. No tobacco (yet).

Tobacco doesn't thrill me. Show me some 50s Topps though, and some Goudeys....that's cool!

packs 05-20-2014 08:13 AM

I've told this story before but a few years ago I bought a Grover Cleveland Alexander signed baseball on the sweet spot for $80 on eBay.

auggiedoggy 05-20-2014 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1277656)
You must have not ever bought from me then! I give stuff away left and right!:o

What's your eBay ID? ;)

bobbyw8469 05-20-2014 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by auggiedoggy (Post 1278153)
What's your eBay ID? ;)

wandw-auctions. Howveer, I don't ship Internationally - except thru the Ebay gloabl shipping program. And I know how much you Canadians LOVEEEEE the Global Shipping Program, eh?

Runscott 05-20-2014 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1278192)
wandw-auctions. Howveer, I don't ship Internationally - except thru the Ebay gloabl shipping program. And I know how much you Canadians LOVEEEEE the Global Shipping Program, eh?

I had never heard of this, but based on the following, it sounds like a way that I can continue offering free shipping, which has been my main concern, along with getting dinged for extra postage and customs delays, regarding shipping to Canada. I'm assuming the recipient picks up the added cost, thus your comment about Canadians not liking it. I'd like to know how that bit of the formula works.

How sellers are protected
  • With the Global Shipping Program, you're protected in the following ways:
  • You qualify for automatic 5-star protection on shipping and handling charge detailed seller ratings when you provide free domestic shipping to the US shipping center. If you receive a rating below 5 stars for shipping and handling charges, it won't count against your seller performance standards.
  • You qualify for automatic 5-star protection on shipping time detailed seller rating when you ship with same day or 1-day handling, upload tracking information within 1 business day of receiving cleared payment, and the item is delivered to the US shipping center within 4 business days. If you receive a rating below 5 stars for shipping time, it won't count against your seller performance standards.
  • Any negative or neutral feedback that can be attributed to the Global Shipping Program from item handling during international transit will be removed. See details.
  • You aren't responsible for item loss or damage that occurs after the item is forwarded by the US shipping center. Once an item has been forwarded by the US shipping center, you won't be responsible for refunding the buyer if an eBay Money Back Guarantee or PayPal Purchase Protection case is filed against you for one of the following reasons:
  • A buyer claims an item isn't received or
  • A package is damaged in transit

auggiedoggy 05-20-2014 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1278192)
wandw-auctions. Howveer, I don't ship Internationally - except thru the Ebay gloabl shipping program. And I know how much you Canadians LOVEEEEE the Global Shipping Program, eh?

[BEGIN RANT]

For good reason, eh! Two reasons why GSP is a bad idea is that ....

1) It is applied to low-cost items that I would never have to pay duty on in the first place. Its just another unnecessary cost to me. Unless eBay has some kind of arrangement with the Canadian Government of which I am unaware, I question the legality of it.

2) Canada Customs staff are paid quite nicely to perform their duties. No need for eBay to get involved. If I'm going to get charged duty, let Canada Customs make that decision, not FeeBay.

[END RANT]

Good day, eh! :D

auggiedoggy 05-20-2014 12:01 PM

And another thing ...
 
[RESUME RANT]

Besides having to pay that stupid import fee, we also have to pay a shipping fee as well. Can you say "MONEY GRAB"?

[END RANT]

slidekellyslide 05-20-2014 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Runscott (Post 1278205)
I had never heard of this, but based on the following, it sounds like a way that I can continue offering free shipping, which has been my main concern, along with getting dinged for extra postage and customs delays, regarding shipping to Canada. I'm assuming the recipient picks up the added cost, thus your comment about Canadians not liking it. I'd like to know how that bit of the formula works.

How sellers are protected
  • With the Global Shipping Program, you're protected in the following ways:
  • You qualify for automatic 5-star protection on shipping and handling charge detailed seller ratings when you provide free domestic shipping to the US shipping center. If you receive a rating below 5 stars for shipping and handling charges, it won't count against your seller performance standards.
  • You qualify for automatic 5-star protection on shipping time detailed seller rating when you ship with same day or 1-day handling, upload tracking information within 1 business day of receiving cleared payment, and the item is delivered to the US shipping center within 4 business days. If you receive a rating below 5 stars for shipping time, it won't count against your seller performance standards.
  • Any negative or neutral feedback that can be attributed to the Global Shipping Program from item handling during international transit will be removed. See details.
  • You aren't responsible for item loss or damage that occurs after the item is forwarded by the US shipping center. Once an item has been forwarded by the US shipping center, you won't be responsible for refunding the buyer if an eBay Money Back Guarantee or PayPal Purchase Protection case is filed against you for one of the following reasons:
  • A buyer claims an item isn't received or
  • A package is damaged in transit

I had an expensive lesson this last week on the Global Shipping Program...I recently acquired a valuable lamp made by Lecoultre...I knew this would be desired by International bidders so I set the auction for Global Shipping Program only...it sold for $2,650 to an Italian bidder...ebay kicked it out of the GSP after the auction had ended. There is no way to send an item to Italy of that value and insure it for the full amount...the Italian Post Office is also notorious for "losing" items..especially valuable items...the Italians also have a laundry list of items that are not allowed to be shipped into their country..one of them being "antiques", and they do not return any items they deem unacceptable. So I refunded the Italian buyer and sold the lamp to the highest US bidder. The Italian buyer will not cooperate with me and cancel the transaction which has cost me over $200...he is also threatening negative feedback. All of this because ebay kicked my item out of the GSP AFTER it was over.

mrvster 05-21-2014 04:16 AM

The lenox.....
 
he shipped it!:eek:

ullmandds 05-21-2014 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrvster (Post 1278396)
he shipped it!:eek:

Good! It's refreshing to see an honest seller for a change. If one of his staff made an error resulting in a great deal for a potential buyer...the seller should honor the sale.

Republicaninmass 05-21-2014 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1278397)
Good! It's refreshing to see an honest seller for a change. If one of his staff made an error resulting in a great deal for a potential buyer...the seller should honor the sale.


He is bound legally by ebay's terms and conditions, but how can it be enforced?

ullmandds 05-21-2014 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass (Post 1278402)
He is bound legally by ebay's terms and conditions, but how can it be enforced?

It cant..and sellers reneg on deals all of the time for whatever reason.

And just the fact that some posters on here "assumed" that the deal would not be completed because a "mistake" was made on someone's part is a testament to the loose nature of ebay transactions.

jhs5120 05-21-2014 07:28 AM

That's a shame he shipped it. No one should get screwed over for that much money.

ullmandds 05-21-2014 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhs5120 (Post 1278423)
That's a shame he shipped it. No one should get screwed over for that much money.

-1(I disagree)

Best way to learn a lesson...is to make a mistake.

jhs5120 05-21-2014 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1278425)
-1(I disagree)

Best way to learn a lesson...is to make a mistake.

It's still unfortunate. No one is trying to teach this man a lesson, if I lost out on $1,000+ I'd be pretty upset about it.

bobbyw8469 05-21-2014 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1278425)
-1(I disagree)

Best way to learn a lesson...is to make a mistake.

Maybe that employee was reprimanded and had to make up the difference in value?

On a similar, but side note, didn't the same thing happen at a card show over a Nolan Ryan rookie card?? Even though it was an Ebay transaction, I don't see how it can be forced to be followed thru, the same way the deal at the card show was never consumated and eventually had to go through the court systems.

ullmandds 05-21-2014 07:58 AM

I'm obviously in the minority here. No one wants to be responsible/accountable for their actions anymore.

If employee was reprimanded...he deserved to be! If seller lost $1000 due to carelessness...he deserved it.

What happened to being accountable...and repercussions?

Maybe the employee/seller who made a mistake here should be given an "I'll try harder next time trophy?"

bobbyw8469 05-21-2014 08:07 AM

Cool....you made no mention of the comparable situation though. There is obviously a precedent that had to go thru the court systems. Whatever became of the Nolan Ryan rookie card that sold for, what, $12?

bn2cardz 05-21-2014 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1278431)
I'm obviously in the minority here. No one wants to be responsible/accountable for their actions anymore.

If employee was reprimanded...he deserved to be! If seller lost $1000 due to carelessness...he deserved it.

What happened to being accountable...and repercussions?

Maybe the employee/seller who made a mistake here should be given an "I'll try harder next time trophy?"

Just because someone "deserved" it doesn't mean that people can't have mercy. Just as often as people don't want to be "responsible/accountable" there are people that don't know how to show compassion and mercy.

jhs5120 05-21-2014 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1278431)
If employee was reprimanded...he deserved to be! If seller lost $1000 due to carelessness...he deserved it.


You're right, this guy obviously had it coming. Serves him right.

Hopefully you never experience any oversight or lapse in judgment, because apparently no one deserves a free pass.

jhs5120 05-21-2014 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bn2cardz (Post 1278439)
there are people that don't know how to show compassion and mercy.

+1

ullmandds 05-21-2014 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhs5120 (Post 1278440)
You're right, this guy obviously had it coming. Serves him right.

Hopefully you never experience any oversight or lapse in judgment, because apparently no one deserves a free pass.

I was never implying anyone had anything coming...or "deserves" to be punished.

In life we all make mistakes...and these mistakes usually provide invaluable learning experiences.

If we all were granted "free passes" when we made mistakes...the world would be a worse place.

That's fine...I'm done with this discussion...maybe I'm wrong...this is just my take on this situation.

bobbyw8469 05-21-2014 08:19 AM

An online store is no different than a brick and mortar store. The person should not be "forced" to complete the trasnaction, the same way that kid took advantage of "good samaritan" watching the store and getting a Ryan rookie for $12. I am sorry, but if that was my Lennox card, then yes, I too would be sitting in court right now.

ullmandds 05-21-2014 08:26 AM

OK...this is my last comment!!!!!!! So basically anyone who has ever purchased a card at a steal of a price on ebay(due to sellers lack of knowledge regarding an item...or whatever reason)...should really contact the buyer and offer to sell him/her back the item at said bargain price...as they made a mistake and shouldn't be "punished" for it?

Whatever happened to ones knowledge offering a competitive advantage when purchasing collectibles?

Is this concept antiquated now? That knowledge is even necessary in a given collectible/antiquity category to gain an advantage of some sort?

jhs5120 05-21-2014 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1278444)
If we all were granted "free passes" when we made mistakes...the world would be a worse place.

No one is implying every mistake deserves a free pass, but when a small business owner forgets the value of an obscure t206 back, he certainly doesn't "deserve" (as you put it) to have someone take advantage of him.

It's just like the 100's of reprints on ebay. Just because the buyer doesn't know the difference between an authentic and reprinted t206 doesn't mean he deserves to be taken advantage of.

I agree, the world would be a worse place if everyone was given a free pass for each mistake they make, but it would be a far worse world if no one received a free pass ever.

Just my opinion.

vintagetoppsguy 05-21-2014 08:31 AM

If the seller made a mistake, I don't believe he should be held accountable. If you accidentally included an extra "0" on a $40 check and wrote it for $400 instead, does the recipient get to keep the extra money just becuase of your mistake?

As I stated earlier, I am just a few minutes from the guy's shop and I'll swing by there on my lunch hour and find out what happend on his end.

ullmandds 05-21-2014 08:32 AM

biting my tongue...it really hurts!!!!:p

byrone 05-21-2014 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1278450)
biting my tongue...it really hurts!!!!:p

Bought a card on ebay a few years back, seller listed it with a "Buy it now" that was very low, and after some thought on my part realized it was clearly a mistake by the seller. After the seller contacted me about the item, I happily cancelled the transaction. He was able to re-list the item and sold it at auction at a more appropriate price for him.

No harm , no foul.

Republicaninmass 05-21-2014 08:40 AM

Please see ebay's T&C. I guess if you could prove damages, you absolutely in fact have a legal binding contract. Just because "it's Ebay" and "it happens all the time" doesnt hold water. Now proving it is a different subject


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